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ParkingLotPissHow so?
and dont bring up something else. we're talking about trans people.
The fact is:
Trans people exist, and it makes thier lives not miserable if people just accept them for who they are.
ParkingLotPissThat's what I thought
VTshredder69Oh sorry should I say privileged Americans in your case?
GayWolf420I think it's kinda funny how so many hunters/fisherman/outdoorsman/power sports community people/skiers even, etc. voted for an administration that's probably going to sell off a lot of lands to the highest bidders to be developed that they also recreate on as well.
I have no hate for those activities because they kick ass and I miss riding sleds everyday as a kid in the Midwest, but there's going to be a shitload of buyers remorse hitting hardly for people. It's probably not going to be an overnight thing, but you will be faced with the possibility of not being able to take your grandchildren hunting/fishing/riding, etc.
GayWolf420I think it's kinda funny how so many hunters/fisherman/outdoorsman/power sports community people/skiers even, etc. voted for an administration that's probably going to sell off a lot of lands to the highest bidders to be developed that they also recreate on as well.
I have no hate for those activities because they kick ass and I miss riding sleds everyday as a kid in the Midwest, but there's going to be a shitload of buyers remorse hitting hardly for people. It's probably not going to be an overnight thing, but you will be faced with the possibility of not being able to take your grandchildren hunting/fishing/riding, etc.
abjectwoeIt's more the fact you're assuming that by the virtue of being American everyone in here is privileged.
It kind of shows that you live in a bubble because I can take you to some places in this country where you'd be scared shitless.
Unless you served in some military or academic function there, going to another country just makes you a tourist not an expert in geopolitics. If I'm remembering correctly you did not serve. So were you conducting research there?
My cousin has been to Central/South America a million fucking times, but I'm not taking his word on geopolitics for shit. His dad who did anti-Narco work with the Navy in South/Central America is a fucking expert. See the difference? Of course you don't.
profa_212Literally the only thing I've seen many of my right leaning friends pay attention to.
Unfortunately they wont care enough to vote differently most likely. We will see.
Very nice to see many right leaning (mostly due to guns) orgs and influencers speaking out against this. MeatEater, Pheasants Forever, The Hunting Public, Backcountry Hunters and Anglers. These people/orgs have millions of followers, donors, people that dedicated their lives to public lands. I am really praying that these people begin to see that there is a lot more out there to their outdoorsmanship than just blindly supporting the side that says guns are cool.
Fuck ANYBODY who is trying to take these lands away.
If you would like to help, I would ask that you please take thirty seconds to enter your Zip and sent your congress members the email. Please feel free to read through and make any change you like. Granted, Republicans congress members likely won't listen, but it won't hurt.
Take Action - Backcountry Hunters and Anglers
VTshredder69Trump is still behind Obama by over 3 million in deportations.
HOW DARE HE
I havn't seen any of my left leaning friends mention that one. CANT IMAGINE WHY
VTshredder69Trump is still behind Obama by over 3 million in deportations.
HOW DARE HE
I havn't seen any of my left leaning friends mention that one. CANT IMAGINE WHY
Ski_AlotDamn right. So much transphobia is covered with "I'm just asking questions", and ignores that those questions often boil down to whether trans people should be allowed to exist.
The answer is that they do exist. No only that, but there are powerful forces fighting to discriminate against and harm trans people and this will cause people to die.
abjectwoeMaking these assumptions about people on the internet is wild.
This gives me heavy Ankilla vibes. Shoutout to that dude.
**This post was edited on Jun 17th 2025 at 3:52:52pm
BiffbarfThey can exist all they want just don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. Nobody gave a shit about dudes in drag or masculine women until they wanted to unironically claim they were something they aren't. It's called dealing with the cards your delt, life ain't fair.
ParkingLotPissI think this still comes back to a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference between sex and gender.
Why do you care? It doesn't make a difference, and it's very clear that when people accept trans people for who they are, it drastically improves their quality of life. Who are you to make someone else feel uncomfortable in their own skin because you're too stubborn to accept the way another person wants to live their life?
BiffbarfPretending that men can be women only undermines the unique struggles women have no choice but to endure. There is no confusion between gender and sex. They've been synonymous in language since the dawn of history. Men and women are different, they cannot be one or the other nomatter how much you've gaslit yourself.
GayWolf420I think it's kinda funny how so many hunters/fisherman/outdoorsman/power sports community people/skiers even, etc. voted for an administration that's probably going to sell off a lot of lands to the highest bidders to be developed that they also recreate on as well.
I have no hate for those activities because they kick ass and I miss riding sleds everyday as a kid in the Midwest, but there's going to be a shitload of buyers remorse hitting hardly for people. It's probably not going to be an overnight thing, but you will be faced with the possibility of not being able to take your grandchildren hunting/fishing/riding, etc.
Ski_AlotOk if you're such an expert, what's the difference between sex and gender?
Ski_AlotOk if you're such an expert, what's the difference between sex and gender?
VTshredder69Trump is still behind Obama by over 3 million in deportations.
HOW DARE HE
I havn't seen any of my left leaning friends mention that one. CANT IMAGINE WHY
Granby_killdozerBuddy all the land for sale is in the west. Do you not think that people hunt and fish in the east, where all the land is already private?
im not in support of selling off any public land but “you won’t be able to take your grand kids fishing” is such a brain dead take lo
Farmville420Trump just gave a massive contract to planatir, a company that is currently developing robots that can use lethal force without human input. So basically deleting due process and granting AI the power to kill might actually be the start of the first time Ive been scared of the future lol
Christian_BaleCan't believe they named their company after the evil seeing stone from LOTR that Sauron uses to surveil his enemies and cause them to hallucinate and lose their minds. It's like they're not even trying to hide it. Same dude who founded Palantir also invested in Vance's VC firm and gave millions to his senate campaign. And wow look they're getting government contracts now. At this point if you're not scared of the future you're not paying attention lol
abjectwoegrade A troll job right here
@VTshredder69 doesn't make it this obvious
Granby_killdozerBuddy all the land for sale is in the west. Do you not think that people hunt and fish in the east, where all the land is already private?
im not in support of selling off any public land but “you won’t be able to take your grand kids fishing” is such a brain dead take lol.
BiffbarfPretending that men can be women only undermines the unique struggles women have no choice but to endure. There is no confusion between gender and sex. They've been synonymous in language since the dawn of history. Men and women are different, they cannot be one or the other nomatter how much you've gaslit yourself.
BiffbarfIn the real world, nothing. In your fantasy land, the difference can be whatever you'd like apparently.
ParkingLotPissFirst of all, there's lots of examples of non-binary gender throughout history.Secondly, it doesn't matter how language has been used in the past, language is always changing.
Yeah, trans women and biological women will have different struggles, but that's irrelevant. The idea that supporting trans people will somehow undermine the struggles of being a woman is such a stretch, and even if that was the case, it just means we need to navigate that issue. It doesn't mean that we should persecute or ignore trans people.
ParkingLotPissIn the real world, there are people whose sex and gender do not align.
In your fantasy land, these millions of people are just making it up.
abjectwoeI live in the middle of so much public land that's slated for sale. Everything I do is outside. It's the reason I live here.
I'm not going to be able to do any of the things I enjoy doing anymore. Even some backcountry skiing may be going away for me.
I'd say 90% of my town vote for Trump, if not more, and they are all outdoorsman/women and powersports enthusiasts.
I really don't get it.
ParkingLotPissIn the real world, there are people whose sex and gender do not align.
BiffbarfI'm not saying their feelings aren't real. I'm saying that affirming someone that they're something they're not is detrimental to themselves and society. It's the ultimate participation trophy given to anyone who stomps their feet and cries loud enough. Life's hard and it's not fair, a lot of trans people learn that the hard way when nobody tells them the emperor doesn't have any clothes.
BiffbarfI'm not saying their feelings aren't real. I'm saying that affirming someone that they're something they're not is detrimental to themselves and society. It's the ultimate participation trophy given to anyone who stomps their feet and cries loud enough. Life's hard and it's not fair, a lot of trans people learn that the hard way when nobody tells them the emperor doesn't have any clothes.
Christian_BaleCan't believe they named their company after the evil seeing stone from LOTR that Sauron uses to surveil his enemies and cause them to hallucinate and lose their minds. It's like they're not even trying to hide it. Same dude who founded Palantir also invested in Vance's VC firm and gave millions to his senate campaign. And wow look they're getting government contracts now. At this point if you're not scared of the future you're not paying attention lol
Granby_killdozerThat’s called having a mental illness. Transgenders aren’t making it up in the same way a person with schizophrenia isn’t making up their illness. The problem is that with the former we apparently have to indoctrinate 5 year olds with sex ed and everyone in western society has to pretend it’s normal and with the later we prescribe them with lithium.
ParkingLotPissThink harder, idiot.
I think it's reductive and ignorant to call being transgender a mental illness. But for the sake of argument, let’s pretend it’s comparable to schizophrenia, depression, etc.
The best way to "treat" being transgender is gender-affirming care. You can’t prescribe someone a drug to make them not trans anymore.
For conditions like depression and schizophrenia, it’s extremely difficult for people to live happy lives without some way to suppress or manage the symptoms, so we develop drugs that do that.
For a transgender person, it’s not that complicated, they can live happy lives as long as the people around them accept them and treat them with kindness. (Which, by the way, is true for neurotypical people as well.)
Granby_killdozerIt’s reductive to call gender dysphoria (which is recognized as a mental illness) a mental illness?? Okay lol. Look, I’m sure every bipolar person would enjoy life more if we as a society embraced their violent mood swings and told them they were absolutely right about their delusions. We don’t though and there are more of them than there are transgenders.
I’m not saying that people with mental illnesses don’t deserve kindness, I’m saying it’s ridiculous to indoctrinate “acceptance” of a delusion into children in order to make a small minority of the population feel better about themselves. It’s ridiculous that we now have to complicate what was once simple language (man and woman) that existed as a binary with clear meaning into nonsense.
SlushSeasonIf you can believe it, gender dysphoria is no longer considered a mental illness because "it isn't inherently harmful". They made that change a few years back for the obvious political reasons.
Granby_killdozerI’m saying it’s ridiculous to indoctrinate “acceptance” of a delusion into children in order to make a small minority of the population feel better about themselves.
Granby_killdozerLol wild. I think we need to get some mental health professionals from Iran involved for the next diagnostic manual.
PoikenzI feel the same way about the anti-vax crowd, except they have a much larger effect.
Yeah maybe they can make homosexuality a mental disorder again as well.
I think it's crazy how one dude mentioned trans rights like 3 pages ago and people are still going on about it like it's the end of civilization. Meanwhile, your public lands are slated to be sold off, the country is on the brink of a severe economic decline, and the president keeps taking all the good tee off times. But whatever, I guess some things that will never affect you are way more important.
PoikenzI feel the same way about the anti-vax crowd, except they have a much larger effect.
Yeah maybe they can make homosexuality a mental disorder again as well.
I think it's crazy how one dude mentioned trans rights like 3 pages ago and people are still going on about it like it's the end of civilization. Meanwhile, your public lands are slated to be sold off, the country is on the brink of a severe economic decline, and the president keeps taking all the good tee off times. But whatever, I guess some things that will never affect you are way more important.
Farmville420Yeah, the owners also lobbied to criminalize homelessness. So this company can track your every move and send an AI killbot to either arrest you or euthanize you. Real dystopian shit, and they're talking about altering the course of history with their company. This shit is genuinely scary and my president is GIVING THEM MONEY. Like what the fuck man.
They're not trying to hide it, they're telling you what they are and know you can't do anything about it.
**This post was edited on Jun 17th 2025 at 8:44:16pm
Granby_killdozer“It’s no big deal” said the side that is pushing their shit ideology into our public education system.
I agree there are more important issues. So why the fuck aren’t we educating kids about the benefits and beauty of our public land instead of telling them they can chop their dicks off if they feel like they’re actually a girl?
PoikenzIf you care so much about public education, maybe you should support the candidate that isn't proposing 12 billion in budget cuts to said public education. I don't know, I'm probably just talking out of my ass with that one.
Granby_killdozerwhy would I want 12 billion more tax payer dollars going toward indocrinating kids on trans people? the whole system is ran by libs which is why I support private education and parents having a choice in what their kids are learning.
PoikenzWait, how is the public education system ran? I'm totally blanking, but I thought it was locally and state governed?
Granby_killdozerDude you understand that the federal government has guidelines for public education right? And their recommended sex ed curriculum for the past 4 years was put together by an lgbt advocacy group. Until a majority of the states in this country implement education policies like Florida’s I’m all for withholding federal funding.