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BridgeJumpwhat about the recommended curriculum is dangerous to children, and what is wrong with said "lgbt advocacy group"? until you provide specifics you are just fear mongering...
scared people, scare people
Uhhhh I think I established what I think is dangerous earlier but to summarize… our federal government created and distributed a sex ed curriculum that was designed to satisfy the delusions of mentally ill people and, at a fundamental level, undermine the social dichotomy of man and woman that has existed since the dawn of humanity. If you don’t see the issue there then idk what to tell ya.
Granby_killdozerUhhhh I think I established what I think is dangerous earlier but to summarize… our federal government created and distributed a sex ed curriculum that was designed to satisfy the delusions of mentally ill people and, at a fundamental level, undermine the social dichotomy of man and woman that has existed since the dawn of humanity. If you don’t see the issue there then idk what to tell ya.
since you have read this curriculum you must know how to share the source, right?
So did you have this image saved or did you have to look it up to post it?
To reply to your other comment, yes the federal government can make guidelines, but each state has the option to adopt or reject those guidelines. I think someone lied to you at some point and you ate it up if you believe otherwise.
PoikenzSo did you have this image saved or did you have to look it up to post it?
To reply to your other comment, yes the federal government can make guidelines, but each state has the option to adopt or reject those guidelines. I think someone lied to you at some point and you ate it up if you believe otherwise.
I don’t believe otherwise. I literally said I want the other states to do what Florida did a few posts ago… try to keep up little guy.
and yes I have that pic saved just for arguments for people like you haha
Granby_killdozerI don’t believe otherwise. I literally said I want the other states to do what Florida did a few posts ago… try to keep up little guy.
and yes I have that pic saved just for arguments for people like you haha
I am just trying to understand how the libs control the public school system when clearly they don't. You just said yourself that Florida has it's own curriculum that you personally approve of (I assume because it isn't controlled by libs) so your initial statement was a lie. Right?
And can we just jump into the whole Hunter Biden argument while we are at it? I'd be completely destroyed if you posted your saved pics of his hog on here.
PoikenzI am just trying to understand how the libs control the public school system when clearly they don't. You just said yourself that Florida has it's own curriculum that you personally approve of (I assume because it isn't controlled by libs) so your initial statement was a lie. Right?
And can we just jump into the whole Hunter Biden argument while we are at it? I'd be completely destroyed if you posted your saved pics of his hog on here.
You aren’t trying to understand shit you dense motherfucker. Florida is 1 state. I want every state to do what they did. How are you going to try and deny that gender critical nonsense and other pro-lgbt rhetoric isn’t being taught in public schools? An lgbt advocacy group literally wrote the fuckin course material and it was distributed nationally. Do you think no one uses it?? And what kinds of people do you think are writing the sex ed course material in liberal cities and blue states. Cmon man you know what’s going on and you’re being intentionally obtuse because you know it’s indefensible.
brother please be serious he asked for a source and your only source is an incident that was clearly a stunt go look it up if you don't believe me, that teacher went right back to dressing as a normal man after the controversy died down.
Granby_killdozerChrist dude… you’re right, the lgbt advocacy group definitely didn’t put pro-lgbt propaganda in their learning material.
That’s a group of people who are well known for being objective and reasonable lmao.
Christian_Balebrother please be serious he asked for a source and your only source is an incident that was clearly a stunt go look it up if you don't believe me, that teacher went right back to dressing as a normal man after the controversy died down.
The fact that lgbt activists helped write the federal sex ed curriculum during the biden admin is public knowledge. Go look it up yourselves lmao. I posted that photo as a joke and honestly forgot that was a teacher but that makes it even funnier.
Granby_killdozerYou aren’t trying to understand shit you dense motherfucker. Florida is 1 state. I want every state to do what they did. How are you going to try and deny that gender critical nonsense and other pro-lgbt rhetoric isn’t being taught in public schools? An lgbt advocacy group literally wrote the fuckin course material and it was distributed nationally. Do you think no one uses it?? And what kinds of people do you think are writing the sex ed course material in liberal cities and blue states. Cmon man you know what’s going on and you’re being intentionally obtuse because you know it’s indefensible.
So you are against democracy?
And no, I do not know what kind of people are approving any specific curriculum changes past their titles. Is there something that I should I be assuming about an entire group of people based off nothing more than their occupation or appointed role? If so please let me know because I genuinely have no idea what you are going on about.
I do know that inclusive teaching programs do exist in part due to the 14th amendment. Is the US constitution a bad thing?
PoikenzSo you are against democracy?
And no, I do not know what kind of people are approving any specific curriculum changes past their titles. Is there something that I should I be assuming about an entire group of people based off nothing more than their occupation or appointed role? If so please let me know because I genuinely have no idea what you are going on about.
I do know that inclusive teaching programs do exist in part due to the 14th amendment. Is the US constitution a bad thing?
lol 14th amendment my ass. If you need your teacher to display an LGBTQ2ASDF+ flag in the classroom in order to learn math then what you need is some damn adderal not a cocktail of puberty blocking hormones.
Granby_killdozerIf you need your teacher to display an LGBTQ2ASDF+ flag in the classroom in order to learn math then what you need is some damn adderal not a cocktail of puberty blocking hormones.
There is no correlation between those two things, you're just being silly.
Maybe we can get back to why you didn't deny having hunter's weiner pics saved? Or how you didn't deny being anti-democratic? Or if you are in support of the US constitution? Or answering what sinister traits all school board members and persons who work for pro-lgbt non-profit organizations share?
PoikenzThere is no correlation between those two things, you're just being silly.
Maybe we can get back to why you didn't deny having hunter's weiner pics saved? Or how you didn't deny being anti-democratic? Or if you are in support of the US constitution? Or answering what sinister traits all school board members and persons who work for pro-lgbt non-profit organizations share?
There’s no correlation between the 14th amendment and teaching gender identity in school but you brought it up dip shit. This isn’t 1960s racial integration, it’s indoctrination of nonsense. Let me ask you something, if public schools are not teaching gender identity in sex ed then why was Trumps executive order that prevented it such a big deal? It’s not being taught right?
TOAST.Outdoor recreation is so limited in the east unless you own a decent chunk of land or have friends that do. The biggest appeal of the western US imo is the amount of public lands available for all types of recreation.
? maybe in Connecticut. i love living in new hampshire. there's so much to do. i got no idea what u mean lol. thats not to say the gov should be selling land. that suqs. but i wont take the east coast HATRED
SteezyYeeter? maybe in Connecticut. i love living in new hampshire. there's so much to do. i got no idea what u mean lol. thats not to say the gov should be selling land. that suqs. but i wont take the east coast HATRED
I live in PA. The northern and western parts have a fair amount of public lands but not nearly to the extent the west has.
Public hunting areas around me a fairly limited. Very little camping legally allowed outside of campgrounds which are mainly focused on RVs.
TOAST.I live in PA. The northern and western parts have a fair amount of public lands but not nearly to the extent the west has.
Public hunting areas around me a fairly limited. Very little camping legally allowed outside of campgrounds which are mainly focused on RVs.
oh that's fair. i do like Pa but i suppose it's not the greatest for shi like dat
Granby_killdozerThere’s no correlation between the 14th amendment and teaching gender identity in school but you brought it up dip shit. This isn’t 1960s racial integration, it’s indoctrination of nonsense. Let me ask you something, if public schools are not teaching gender identity in sex ed then why was Trumps executive order that prevented it such a big deal? It’s not being taught right?
You need to specifically focus on the equal protection clause. This clause has been used to protect individuals and minorities from discrimination. Purposely avoiding talking/ teaching about lgbtq can be seen as discrimination, this is well documented and there are legal cases that focus on this subject.
The executive orders you refer to are detrimental to the equal protection clause as they oust specific citizens of the US as not having equal rights or protections.
Maybe consider thinking about things instead of listening to your fee-fees. You are arguing that learning about gender identity will turn kids away from their traditional gender roles in the same way video games and Marilyn Manson make kids shoot up schools. You need to quit this obsession.
Now getting back on topic, maybe you could answer what sinister traits all school board members and persons who work for pro-lgbtq non-profit organizations share (this is the one I'd really like an answer to if you have one)?
Or maybe answer why you think it is okay for presidents to be able to break laws laid out in the US constitution?
Granby_killdozer. Let me ask you something, if public schools are not teaching gender identity in sex ed then why was Trumps executive order that prevented it such a big deal? It’s not being taught right?
Imagine it was a democratic president solely deciding what should and should not be taught in classrooms. I think you'd rightly take issue with that. Don't you agree it's something that should be decided by local school districts or by the state?
PoikenzYou need to specifically focus on the equal protection clause. This clause has been used to protect individuals and minorities from discrimination. Purposely avoiding talking/ teaching about lgbtq can be seen as discrimination, this is well documented and there are legal cases that focus on this subject.
The executive orders you refer to are detrimental to the equal protection clause as they oust specific citizens of the US as not having equal rights or protections.
Maybe consider thinking about things instead of listening to your fee-fees. You are arguing that learning about gender identity will turn kids away from their traditional gender roles in the same way video games and Marilyn Manson make kids shoot up schools. You need to quit this obsession.
Now getting back on topic, maybe you could answer what sinister traits all school board members and persons who work for pro-lgbtq non-profit organizations share (this is the one I'd really like an answer to if you have one)?
Or maybe answer why you think it is okay for presidents to be able to break laws laid out in the US constitution?
Oh god… it’s schrodingers class curriculum with you people. First you say it’s not an issue and I show why it is (indoctrination of a delusion). then you say it’s not being taught in classrooms and I show that it is. And now we’re back to it not being harmful, just talking in circles. It is harmful because one side of the political spectrum is indoctrinating kids with a world view that many people don’t agree with.
There are 2 genders. Humans have sexual dimorphism and gender expression is an extension of that. Look at every other species of mammal, especially primates. There is a clear delineation between the ways males and females behave. If a male chimpanzee suddenly starts behaving like a female chimpanzee we don’t deem that male to then be a female. We would say that that chimpanzee is behaving strangely and probably has some kind of cognitive disorder.
“Purposely avoiding talking/ teaching about lgbtq can be seen as discrimination”
Thats fucking rich, and I’m the one with hurt fee-fees? Get a grip man.
Granby_killdozerOh god… it’s schrodingers class curriculum with you people. First you say it’s not an issue and I show why it is (indoctrination of a delusion). then you say it’s not being taught in classrooms and I show that it is. And now we’re back to it not being harmful, just talking in circles. It is harmful because one side of the political spectrum is indoctrinating kids with a world view that many people don’t agree with.
There are 2 genders.
You never showed me how it is an issue, it still isn't. Claiming indoctrination is occuring without any sort of research or concrete proof backing up that claim means that you are pontificating. I never discussed what was or wasn't being taught in schools at any point, I only discussed who was involved in deciding curriculums.
I think it is you who has been indoctrinated as you have yet to show any critical thinking skills when it comes to anything you've discussed here.
Do you have any hard examples of sex ed classes being a form indoctrination? Ok great, so we can move on from there.
There are not two genders, there are two sexes (yes, I am ignoring intersex for the sake of not confusing you). Sex is biological. Gender is a social construction. And just like other social constructions, those definitions can and do change over time.
If you want gender and sex to be synonymous, then that is a separate issue that has nothing to do with what we are currently discussing. If that's the case you should send a strongly worded letter to merriam-webster.
While you are at it, maybe you could answer what sinister traits all school board members and persons who work for pro-lgbtq non-profit organizations share? Maybe you should post more images of transsexuals you have saved to better get your point across?
PoikenzYou never showed me how it is an issue, it still isn't. Claiming indoctrination is occuring without any sort of research or concrete proof backing up that claim means that you are pontificating. I never discussed what was or wasn't being taught in schools at any point, I only discussed who was involved in deciding curriculums.
I think it is you who has been indoctrinated as you have yet to show any critical thinking skills when it comes to anything you've discussed here.
Do you have any hard examples of sex ed classes being a form indoctrination? Ok great, so we can move on from there.
There are not two genders, there are two sexes (yes, I am ignoring intersex for the sake of not confusing you). Sex is biological. Gender is a social construction. And just like other social constructions, those definitions can and do change over time.
If you want gender and sex to be synonymous, then that is a separate issue that has nothing to do with what we are currently discussing. If that's the case you should send a strongly worded letter to merriam-webster.
While you are at it, maybe you could answer what sinister traits all school board members and persons who work for pro-lgbtq non-profit organizations share? Maybe you should post more images of transsexuals you have saved to better get your point across?
Oh yeah let me go talk to the same dictionary that changed the meaning of the word “literally” to also mean “figuratively”. Bunch of fuckin geniuses over there. Mariam Webster can suck my balls lmao.
Also I never said anyone had “sinister traits” at any point in this discussion, you autist
Granby_killdozerOh yeah let me go talk to the same dictionary that changed the meaning of the word “literally” to also mean “figuratively”. Bunch of fuckin geniuses over there. Mariam Webster can suck my balls lmao.
Man, I hate that the most accessible dictionary and encyclopedia are both run by post-truth activists now.
Granby_killdozerOh yeah let me go talk to the same dictionary that changed the meaning of the word “literally” to also mean “figuratively”. Bunch of fuckin geniuses over there. Mariam Webster can suck my balls lmao.
Also I never said anyone had “sinister traits” at any point in this discussion, you autist
Right, so you can't defend or back up anything you have said so you attack a publishing company. And you still aren't operating based on emotions?
And you are correct! Gold star. You wrote, "what kinds of people do you think are writing the sex ed course material in liberal cities and blue states. Cmon man you know what’s going on and you’re being intentionally obtuse because you know it’s indefensible."
Now your language implies that something nefarious or sinister is going on, so that is what I assumed. If I am wrong here please correct me and tell me what kind of people school board members and employees of pro-lgbtq non-profit organizations are.
PoikenzRight, so you can't defend or back up anything you have said so you attack a publishing company. And you still aren't operating based on emotions?
And you are correct! Gold star. You wrote, "what kinds of people do you think are writing the sex ed course material in liberal cities and blue states. Cmon man you know what’s going on and you’re being intentionally obtuse because you know it’s indefensible."
Now your language implies that something nefarious or sinister is going on, so that is what I assumed. If I am wrong here please correct me and tell me what kind of people school board members and employees of pro-lgbtq non-profit organizations are.
If anything you have shown yourself to be the one with an overly focused interest and difficulty communicating and interacting with others. But sure, just shut it down while you're behind big guy.
He is asking you to back up what you are saying and to be specific, but all you do is call him autistic. You don’t even know why you believe the things you do.
You can pretend that sex and gender are the same all you want, but the very existence of trans people, regardless of how you feel about them, proves that this is not true. I agree that these words have been used synonymously by most people for a long time, and it can be confusing that this is no longer the case, but you just have to accept it.
I assume that when you talk about indoctrination, you mean that kids are being taught to accept trans people as the gender that makes them feel comfortable. Let me know if I’m misunderstanding what exactly you are referring to. But my question is: if we’re not going to agree to accept trans people, then what should we do? They aren’t going to magically disappear. I don’t think there would be any widespread consequences to accepting them. In the long run, who would be worse off?
PoikenzIf anything you have shown yourself to be the one with an overly focused interest and difficulty communicating and interacting with others. But sure, just shut it down while you're behind big guy.
Shut the fuck up nerd. Nothing interests me except pawgs and guns
Turning against fox news now, while simultaneously ranting about the Fed, calling Powell names, and spreading propaganda like no one's business. Truth social is cringe as fuck.
If you think we can convince a student to change their gender markers when we can’t even get them to quit hitting vapes in the bathrooms you’re a complete retard who should sit out education policy discussions.
JuviticusUS attacking a foreign country because of the potential for WMDs... I swear I've seen this one before... Anyone remember what happens next?
I think no boots on the ground this time around unlike Iraq, but Iran has no choice but to respond right? If I was stationed in a military base in the middle east I'd be shitting myself right now
wow what a surprise, the guy who campaigned on No New Wars and America First, and took at least $230 million from pro israel groups, is doing Israel's bidding
SteezyYeetertrump bombing iran and then calling for peace is like when michael cut the game of basketball vs. the warehouse because they were ahead
I am sure Trumps reasoning for starting a war was carefully thought out… Like he was bored, or someone on Fox News said something that pissed him off. It is encouraging that Pete Hegseth managed to pull this attack off with out drunk texting the media a picture of his dick before it happened.
I just hope they(puppeteers) were not lying again. If they are not lying it seems necessary (depending on the amount of propaganda the west gets on Iran). On the other hand welcome back to terrorists attacks every 5 years. Lose lose situation.
CaseyI am sure Trumps reasoning for starting a war was carefully thought out… Like he was bored, or someone on Fox News said something that pissed him off. It is encouraging that Pete Hegseth managed to pull this attack off with out drunk texting the media a picture of his dick before it happened.
