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hot.pocket
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Moment Collection

If you're ever in the Reno area, stop by and say hi.

Phone: 775-527-1595
Email: info@momentskis.com
Hours: Tues-Fri 8am-6pm

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1085 Bible Way
Reno, NV 89502

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Aug 2 2018 7:35PM
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ThaLorax
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Ya my GT has full rocker, which is insanely fun in deep pow. I use my WC101 80% of my ski days. Most pow days were spent on the Bibby, but that's retired now. Kinda want a 108 Wildcat. Wish they made them in-between the 164cm and 174cm, but i understand why they dont. The 169cm GT fits me better than my 174 WC 101 and 174 Bibby (my height is only 157cm/5'2") but I'm pretty confident the 164 would feel squirrely with all the rocker. I've never skied a DW for comparison
jhnegbrtThat makes sense, thanks for the follow up!

I also have a wc 101 and love that ski. I would consider the WC (116) but I feel that would have more overlap than I want with the DW.

Similar to you, whether I get a CB or GT, I expect to go deathwish a lot of days.

I think they changed the GT shape after your year to “handle bar rocker”, but not sure how that would affect hard pack performance
Aug 29 2023 12:13PM
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cydwhit
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jhnegbrtThat makes sense, thanks for the follow up!

I also have a wc 101 and love that ski. I would consider the WC (116) but I feel that would have more overlap than I want with the DW.

Similar to you, whether I get a CB or GT, I expect to go deathwish a lot of days.

I think they changed the GT shape after your year to “handle bar rocker”, but not sure how that would affect hard pack performance


Skied a two ski quiver of a DW and GT for a few years. If you're asking about "hard pack performance" with the Ghost Train, you might be looking at the wrong ski haha. The triple camber version I had was plenty manageable on hardback, but it certainly wasn't "great"

If it's anything short of a guaranteed pow day, I'd go DW, but if it's sure to be deep, Ghost Train is my all time fave. That's why I want a tour version to come back, I skied so many of the deepest backcountry days of my life on the Ghost Train and absolutely loved it.
Aug 29 2023 12:41PM
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PartyBullshiit
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ThaLoraxYa my GT has full rocker, which is insanely fun in deep pow. I use my WC101 80% of my ski days. Most pow days were spent on the Bibby, but that's retired now. Kinda want a 108 Wildcat. Wish they made them in-between the 164cm and 174cm, but i understand why they dont. The 169cm GT fits me better than my 174 WC 101 and 174 Bibby (my height is only 157cm/5'2") but I'm pretty confident the 164 would feel squirrely with all the rocker. I've never skied a DW for comparison


That 174 is calling your name. Save a few bucks

https://www.skiburger.com/products/22-23-wildcat-108?variant=42539240554682
Aug 29 2023 2:37PM
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PartyBullshiitThat 174 is calling your name. Save a few bucks

https://www.skiburger.com/products/22-23-wildcat-108?variant=42539240554682

Why does skiburger always get linked on payday? Thankfully the 184 WC 108 is sold out.
Aug 29 2023 7:40PM
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cali_invader
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Question for DW112 owners: do you ever ski/wish you had a narrower ski during the season? I feel like you don't hear a lot about the original Deathwish online (the 104 version + wildcats get a lot of chatter) but seems like lots of people will offhand admit to skiing most of their Tahoe days on the DW112. Is it just quiet because people on the DW aren't out looking for new skis?
Sep 12 2023 5:54PM
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PartyBullshiit
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cali_invaderQuestion for DW112 owners: do you ever ski/wish you had a narrower ski during the season? I feel like you don't hear a lot about the original Deathwish online (the 104 version + wildcats get a lot of chatter) but seems like lots of people will offhand admit to skiing most of their Tahoe days on the DW112. Is it just quiet because people on the DW aren't out looking for new skis?


The 112 is just a really good do it all ski. It can handle almost any condition which is why a lot of people ski it as their 1 ski quiver. It doesn’t ride as wide as a typical 112 waist ski so it’s more usable across more terrain.

Before the countach I know it was a cult favorite amongst the Moment employees as their throw in the truck skis to be ready for anything, countach is getting a lot of that love now as well.

as you mentioned in Tahoe it was absolutely fantastic I never found myself needing more or less ski and this was in March/April during the crazy dumps. Also had cat 118, 108 and commander 98’s on hand and found myself having the most fun on my wish 112.

I do have the 104 as well which ill
be using this nov-dec in Tahoe and Breck as I don’t expect the conditions to be as great as when I was there in March-April.
Sep 12 2023 6:09PM
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bustedpivot
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Its because it does not feel at all like a 112. It feels like a 102.
Sep 12 2023 7:24PM
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Non_State_Actor
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cali_invaderQuestion for DW112 owners: do you ever ski/wish you had a narrower ski during the season? I feel like you don't hear a lot about the original Deathwish online (the 104 version + wildcats get a lot of chatter) but seems like lots of people will offhand admit to skiing most of their Tahoe days on the DW112. Is it just quiet because people on the DW aren't out looking for new skis?


PartyBullshiitThe 112 is just a really good do it all ski. It can handle almost any condition which is why a lot of people ski it as their 1 ski quiver. It doesn’t ride as wide as a typical 112 waist ski so it’s more usable across more terrain.

Before the countach I know it was a cult favorite amongst the Moment employees as their throw in the truck skis to be ready for anything, countach is getting a lot of that love now as well.

as you mentioned in Tahoe it was absolutely fantastic I never found myself needing more or less ski and this was in March/April during the crazy dumps. Also had cat 118, 108 and commander 98’s on hand and found myself having the most fun on my wish 112.

I do have the 104 as well which ill
be using this nov-dec in Tahoe and Breck as I don’t expect the conditions to be as great as when I was there in March-April.


bustedpivotIts because it does not feel at all like a 112. It feels like a 102.

Pretty much this. The 112 is really quick edge to edge, much more nimble than the sidecut radius would indicate. It can pivot and slash very quickly and also has pretty good edge hold when it's needed.
Sep 12 2023 7:36PM
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DollaStoreHumper
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Any plans to continue the trend of adding longer lengths of the skis in the lineup with the meridians? perhaps a 193+...?
Sep 14 2023 3:06AM
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hot.pocket
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Nate5BAny plans to continue the trend of adding longer lengths of the skis in the lineup with the meridians? perhaps a 193+...?


No plans this year to add a longer Meridian.

Can always email info@momentskis.com to ask for unique builds, if enough requests come through we've been known to build some fun stuff.
Sep 14 2023 10:15AM
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-eREKTion-
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cali_invaderQuestion for DW112 owners: do you ever ski/wish you had a narrower ski during the season? I feel like you don't hear a lot about the original Deathwish online (the 104 version + wildcats get a lot of chatter) but seems like lots of people will offhand admit to skiing most of their Tahoe days on the DW112. Is it just quiet because people on the DW aren't out looking for new skis?


The Deathwish works really well in 95% of conditions so it’s a pretty easy grab on virtually any day. And even when the conditions don’t suit the Deathwish, it’s usually not the 112 width that throws me off because DW112 has a massive sweet spot plus the triple camber placebo.


However, the one thing that does throw me off occasionally is the lack of significant taper. In most cases this is a positive trait but when snow gets either super punchy or the moguls have really steep troughs, the DW112 is out of its element (FOR MY SKI STYLE).


I bought the Deathwish when I moved away from the mountains and sold most of my quiver. Sure, there have been days where I wish I still had my Bibby’s or my Tahoe 96’s but overall I am a permanent Deathwish fanboy.
Sep 15 2023 5:52PM
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cali_invader
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Really appreciate the replies on the DW112. I skied it all last season for everything, so it's good to know that I'm not missing out on much by only owning one resort ski.
Sep 16 2023 1:41PM
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Rodigan
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will any186 bananas be available anytime soon?


thanks
Sep 19 2023 5:19PM
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hot.pocket
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Rodiganwill any186 bananas be available anytime soon?


thanks


There will be more available after they start shipping out. They just started going into the presses so expect 2-3 weeks from now.
Sep 19 2023 7:15PM
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hot.pocket
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Friday, September 29th we're hosting our season kick off party here at the factory.

Movie premiere of the new Deviate film Plug & Play, tons of beer, food, and other local companies showing off some goods.

Proceeds go towards our favorite local non-profit The Holland Project.

Tickets:
> Film Only - $15
> Film + Beer Garden - $25
> Film, Beer Garden + Moment Tallboy Tumbler - $35

GET TICKETS HERE

Doors @ 5pm, film starts at dark (~8:30pm)

Last year's turnout:


Sep 21 2023 3:56PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocket


Friday, September 29th we're hosting our season kick off party here at the factory.

Movie premiere of the new Deviate film Plug & Play, tons of beer, food, and other local companies showing off some goods.

Proceeds go towards our favorite local non-profit The Holland Project.

Tickets:
> Film Only - $15
> Film + Beer Garden - $25
> Film, Beer Garden + Moment Tallboy Tumbler - $35

GET TICKETS HERE

Doors @ 5pm, film starts at dark (~8:30pm)

Last year's turnout:




Hope you guys had a great event. Ski burger closed till the end of next season ish?
Sep 30 2023 12:06AM
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hot.pocket
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PartyBullshiitHope you guys had a great event. Ski burger closed till the end of next season ish?


Temporarily shut down, will be back up within a week or two.
Oct 2 2023 6:14PM
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afjaom
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So I know this a question that has been beaten to death, but I've never ridden a Moment ski and could use some advice. I'm 6 feet tall and about 170-175lbs. Will ski in the Sierras, Big Bear, and Colorado mostly this year. Trying to decide between the Deathwish 184 and the Jeffrey 108 186. Last year I skied the sir francis bacon 184 all year and it felt short to me so I'm a little worried that the deathwish 184 will feel too short, but am apprehensive about sizing up to the 190. I'm not the hardest charging skier, but I struggled with the lack of stability on the SFB. Is there much of a difference between the DW and the jeffrey when going fast? On the contrary, which is more fun and surfy when taking it slow? I'd like something that's still fun when riding groomers with friends and family.

Or should I be looking at the countach 188 for a playful but fast ski?
Oct 5 2023 12:23AM
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Mitch_7495
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afjaomSo I know this a question that has been beaten to death, but I've never ridden a Moment ski and could use some advice. I'm 6 feet tall and about 170-175lbs. Will ski in the Sierras, Big Bear, and Colorado mostly this year. Trying to decide between the Deathwish 184 and the Jeffrey 108 186. Last year I skied the sir francis bacon 184 all year and it felt short to me so I'm a little worried that the deathwish 184 will feel too short, but am apprehensive about sizing up to the 190. I'm not the hardest charging skier, but I struggled with the lack of stability on the SFB. Is there much of a difference between the DW and the jeffrey when going fast? On the contrary, which is more fun and surfy when taking it slow? I'd like something that's still fun when riding groomers with friends and family.

Or should I be looking at the countach 188 for a playful but fast ski?


I know this doesn't full answer your question. But i ski usually Big bear and the occasional trip to Mammoth I also am coming off a pair of Line Bacons in 184s, and I just ordered 2 days ago a pair of wildcat 101s in 184s. Seems like the wildcat should be a great replacement as a fun ski. im 5,11, 185lbs and didnt think the bacon felt short though.
Oct 5 2023 12:25PM
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cndr
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afjaomSo I know this a question that has been beaten to death, but I've never ridden a Moment ski and could use some advice. I'm 6 feet tall and about 170-175lbs. Will ski in the Sierras, Big Bear, and Colorado mostly this year. Trying to decide between the Deathwish 184 and the Jeffrey 108 186. Last year I skied the sir francis bacon 184 all year and it felt short to me so I'm a little worried that the deathwish 184 will feel too short, but am apprehensive about sizing up to the 190. I'm not the hardest charging skier, but I struggled with the lack of stability on the SFB. Is there much of a difference between the DW and the jeffrey when going fast? On the contrary, which is more fun and surfy when taking it slow? I'd like something that's still fun when riding groomers with friends and family.

Or should I be looking at the countach 188 for a playful but fast ski?

DW has pretty deep rocker, I'd go 190. I'm like 5'7 and ride the 184.
Oct 5 2023 12:48PM
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hot.pocket
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PartyBullshiitSki burger closed till the end of next season ish?



www.skiburger.com

Oct 10 2023 1:50PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocket

www.skiburger.com



If only that meridian tour wasn’t a 171
Oct 10 2023 2:31PM
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hot.pocket
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PartyBullshiitIf only that meridian tour wasn’t a 171


Oct 10 2023 3:24PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocket

Was this a hint to the Halloween drop? Email had me thinking ghost train because of the graphics and the 3 (triple camber) but could you be dropping a clue to a merdian tour?
Oct 14 2023 3:04AM
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PartyBullshiit
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Who’s in Denver?

https://denver.craigslist.org/spo/d/evergreen-moment-meridian-skis-117/7676725671.html
Oct 15 2023 6:28PM
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Lemuel
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This may make me spend some money. Very tempted by some Wildcat Tour’s.


Any thoughts of ever doing a fish scale?
hot.pocket

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Oct 15 2023 6:50PM
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hot.pocket
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LemuelAny thoughts of ever doing a fish scale?


We built a pair or two back in ~2017, my dad has also produced quite a few pairs of fish scale skis.

They work well enough for low angle skinning, but the efficiency loss at moderate to steep slopes or icy conditions + the additional effort that goes into building them properly is what keeps us away from producing them at volume.
Oct 15 2023 7:23PM
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hot.pocket
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Get excited

Oct 27 2023 1:19PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocket


Get excited



I see those 3 skis faintly showing behind the girl.

ghost train, Meridian 117 and Meridian tour.

or ghost train, chant and Meridian tour.
Oct 27 2023 2:44PM
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ThaLorax
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PartyBullshiitI see those 3 skis faintly showing behind the girl.

ghost train, Meridian 117 and Meridian tour.

or ghost train, chant and Meridian tour.


Please be an updated Ghost Train available in 168 like the old one. That size is best sized Moment ski I own for my short hobbit ass. I already have 2 (one is unmounted too) but one that's better on groomers between pow would be epic
Oct 27 2023 2:57PM
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hot.pocket
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PartyBullshiitI see those 3 skis faintly showing behind the girl.

ghost train, Meridian 117 and Meridian tour.

or ghost train, chant and Meridian tour.

Almost
ThaLoraxPlease be an updated Ghost Train available in 168 like the old one. That size is best sized Moment ski I own for my short hobbit ass. I already have 2 (one is unmounted too) but one that's better on groomers between pow would be epic

Unfortunately there will not be any sub 180 lengths in this release
Oct 27 2023 3:16PM
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ThaLorax
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hot.pocketAlmost

Unfortunately there will not be any sub 180 lengths in this release


Good thing I've got my 2 pairs from 2013 then!
Oct 27 2023 4:16PM
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hot.pocket


Get excited



Ghost Chant, Meridian, Reno Rocker

Final Answer.
Oct 27 2023 5:49PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocketAlmost

Unfortunately there will not be any sub 180 lengths in this release

Ok ghost train, donner party and merdian tour.



i would say im 100% on the ghost train the clues are obvious.

I would say im also 100% on the meridian tour.

especially with longer lengths since you gave me the office Halloween clue on my comment about the short meridian tours on burger.

my last choice is getting changed to a donner party.

you dropped chants last year no? Unless you’re doing those again to coincide with the new chant poles.

love the suspense lol.
Oct 27 2023 6:31PM
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hot.pocket
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ThaLoraxGood thing I've got my 2 pairs from 2013 then!

Good thing!

-eREKTion-Ghost Chant, Meridian, Reno Rocker

Final Answer.

One day I'll make the reno rocker for ya, but today isn't that day.

PartyBullshiityou dropped chants last year no? Unless you’re doing those again to coincide with the new chant poles.

Damn that would've been a great idea.
Oct 27 2023 7:01PM
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KimJongTrill
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If it’s a 2014 Deathwish RE release as the 3rd ski I will be buying two skis.

I think a Meridian and GT are for certain.
Oct 27 2023 7:07PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocket


Get excited



Cough cough?
Oct 31 2023 1:23PM
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PartyBullshiit
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Live


Oct 31 2023 2:03PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocketAlmost

Unfortunately there will not be any sub 180 lengths in this release


I see what you did there. You guys got me with the glutinous waists. Figured forsure that meant 117. lol. 107 is barely cheeky width wise lol
Oct 31 2023 2:10PM
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vermontana
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Oh man I want the Ghost Train so bad, fatcat probably makes more sense for a more versatile pow stick but dayummmm
Oct 31 2023 2:28PM
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hot.pocket
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PartyBullshiitI see what you did there. You guys got me with the glutinous waists. Figured forsure that meant 117. lol. 107 is barely cheeky width wise lol


Yeah, we get a lot of questions about the 117.

Basically, we made the Banana, we stopped making the Banana, we made the Meridian as a skinny Banana, we made the Meridian 117 as a wider Meridian, then went back to making the Banana as it's better and more iconic ski compared to the 117.
Oct 31 2023 3:11PM
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ThaLorax
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Love the throwback graphics on the Ghost Train. Definitely jeolous that the GT and Meridian weren't released in shorter lengths for us short guys and gals
Oct 31 2023 3:26PM
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PartyBullshiit
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hot.pocketYeah, we get a lot of questions about the 117.

Basically, we made the Banana, we stopped making the Banana, we made the Meridian as a skinny Banana, we made the Meridian 117 as a wider Meridian, then went back to making the Banana as it's better and more iconic ski compared to the 117.


That makes a lot of sense. Only reason for the name change being banana instead of Meridian was the graphics?
Oct 31 2023 3:32PM
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hot.pocket
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PartyBullshiitThat makes a lot of sense. Only reason for the name change being banana instead of Meridian was the graphics?


Basically, and we resurrected the original Banana design, so it made sense to keep the name with the iconic graphic.
Oct 31 2023 4:11PM
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steve0
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Can’t find them on the website…

Might be the great firewall (I’m in china right now) can someone share a link?
Oct 31 2023 4:28PM
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maaattt
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hot.pocketOne day I'll make the reno rocker for ya, but today isn't that day.



Oct 31 2023 4:30PM
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hot.pocket
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steve0Can’t find them on the website…

Might be the great firewall (I’m in china right now) can someone share a link?


https://www.momentskis.com/collections/halloween
Oct 31 2023 4:33PM
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steve0
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Gracias.
Oct 31 2023 6:01PM
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lusch0
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is the ghost train just a new ghost chant? it's not fully symmetrical so maybe a rework?
Nov 1 2023 4:12PM
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PartyBullshiit
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krayfedis the ghost train just a new ghost chant? it's not fully symmetrical so maybe a rework?


Ghost chants dropped last season. Ghost trains are a night train ghost chant hybrid.
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