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EricCartman
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Boston / new england? What do you think?
Jun 22 2013 11:56AM
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987321654hgfd
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New York, New York
Jun 22 2013 8:29PM
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N-John360
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To me stadium atmosphere is so much more important thans W's. And this is coming from someone from Boston. We have great atmosphere and are definitely among the best in atmosphere, but I wonder...if we weren't winning, would the seats still be filled? From an international level, I think Dortmund has to be up there. This was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. You don't see things like this in the US.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znheW8aWuRg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znheW8aWuRg
Jun 22 2013 9:23PM
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SamtheEagle
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Clearly seattle...

Sonics
Mariners
Seahawks

come on not even a competition


Jun 22 2013 9:24PM
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Rparr
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Come to Cleveland.
Jun 22 2013 9:30PM
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johnnyBuz
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Umm dude in the early to mid 90's the Pens were one of the best teams in hockey. Does "Super" Mario Lemieux and Jaromir Jagr not ring a bell? Please tell me you are not a Pittsburgh native.
Jun 22 2013 10:05PM
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Bumblesteeze
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It has to be Boston and I hate the bruins.
Jun 22 2013 10:09PM
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walterson
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BOSTON
Jun 22 2013 10:11PM
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Dingo69
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Barcelona what is this i dont even
Jun 22 2013 10:20PM
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Bogs
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yes
Jun 22 2013 10:53PM
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Bogs
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Yeah, I'd put Pittsburgh right up there with Philly, Chicago, and Boston
Jun 22 2013 10:53PM
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FreeskiThe603
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This isn't even a fucking question. Only one city has 7 titles in a decade.

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Jun 22 2013 10:56PM
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1337
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Boston for sure, consistant champs the last 12 years in every major american sport

http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/gallery/boston_championships/
Jun 22 2013 10:58PM
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EASTIE21
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That was my point there. Sorry for coming off confusing there. I am not a Pitt native but I do have family from around Pitt. I remember going to games with Lemieux and Jagr and the fan base just wasn't the same. Sure they had a good following but nothing like they do now.
Jun 22 2013 11:03PM
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johnnyBuz
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Sorry if I came across like a dick. I didn't see that you wrote a "crazy good hockey team" when I first replied.
Jun 22 2013 11:31PM
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corona
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I think you missed the point that winning doesn't make you a good sports town. makes it good to be a sports fan in that town.


out of the top 10 in the world, bet 7 are Euro cities. plus Melbourne
Jun 22 2013 11:51PM
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johnnyBuz
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It's easy to be excited and passionate when soccer or rugby is the only thing you have to look forward to. I think it's more impressive to be a 4 sport city and still have passionate fans selling out every stadium.
Jun 22 2013 11:56PM
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*spike*
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I think Denver is up there.. I would probably have it in the top 5-10.
Jun 23 2013 12:03AM
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Rossberger
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seattle




lol, just kidding
Jun 23 2013 12:06AM
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corona
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yea but they only sell out when they're winning. shit load of fair-weather fans.

only have the stats since the lockout but:

2005-2006: Boston tanked, didn't make the playoffs, attendance 92% (this high because first season after the lockout, everyone's attendance was high)

2006-2007: Boston tanked, didn't make the playoffs, attendance 84%. pretty pitiful. lost of games were barely 2/3rds full.

2007-2008: Boston started doing better, just squeaked into the playoffs. attendance went up (87%)

2008-2009: Boston has a great season, attendance jumps to 97%

2009-2010 to present: Boston has been doing really well, wins a cup. has had nearly 100% attendance.



Great sports city my ass.


Also a city like Melbourne has rugby, Assie football, soccer, basketball, baseball, etc etc all as major sports teams. there's more than just a couple.
Jun 23 2013 12:16AM
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corona
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I mean compare that to a city like Toronto where it doesn't matter how shit poor the leafs are doing or whether they haven't made the playoffs in a decade, they're still selling out every single game.

Boston =/= good sports town. Boston =/= good town to be a sports fan this last decade.
Jun 23 2013 12:18AM
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corona
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meant Boston DOES = good town to be a sports fan this last decade
Jun 23 2013 12:19AM
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1337
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It's an added bonus. Boston fans are loyal, the scene surrounding the teams is great and it's embedded into the culture here.
Jun 23 2013 12:19AM
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corona
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lol actually Islanders had 68% attendance in 2010-2011.
Jun 23 2013 12:22AM
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1337
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pull your head out of your ass. Hockey isn't the only sport in Boston

"Fans have sold out Gillette Stadium for every Patriots home game since the $325 million, privately funded facility opened in 2002."

http://espn.go.com/travel/stadium/_/s/nfl/id/17/gillette-stadium

Jun 23 2013 12:23AM
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corona
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and the Leafs and Habs have probably sold out every game since the 1994 lockout.

not impressed.
Jun 23 2013 12:24AM
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corona
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... you should really take this advice and look at some other sports cities around the world. makes Boston look lame.



also the Patriots haven't done poorly since 2002. wait till they start doing poorly and see if they still sell out every game.
Jun 23 2013 12:27AM
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corona
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/sports hate
Jun 23 2013 12:27AM
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corona
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Raptors actually not bad. between 80-90%. Blue Jays obviously abysmal. but it's baseball. what can you expect.

but you have to add in the Argonauts, which over the past decade are probably about 95-100%. then Toronto FC, which has easily averaged 90-95% since existence almost 10 years ago.

and all these teams besides the Argonauts have been absolute shit the past decade yet overall attendance in the city is still easily well over 90%.


so I'd say Toronto does better than Boston. Baseball shouldn't count though.
Jun 23 2013 12:38AM
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MilaKunis
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Miami














Trolololol
Jun 23 2013 12:46AM
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t_rob
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LOL VINNIEF. You're a fucking joke.
Jun 23 2013 12:49AM
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skisalot111
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ann arbor or tuscaloosa fo' so
Jun 23 2013 12:52AM
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fujarome
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and not to mention that Fenway Park was selling out every single game from May 2003 to May 2013. So that alone is 2/4 of the major sports, selling 100% of the tickets...for 10 years.

oh but wait, baseball doesn't count because it doesn't work in favor of VinnieF's argument. And the pats don't count either because they don't suck.



Give it up, it has to be Boston.


What's the point of a city that sells out every game but doesn't win anything ever? Boston has consistently high ticket sales in all the sports, with consistent playoffs/finals appearances, and championships in all sports in the last decade.


how does it get any better than that? 80% and up attendance records+championships trumps a decade of 98% attendance and 1 playoff failure year.
Jun 23 2013 1:07AM
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1337
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Seriously, I honestly am trying to consider Toronto and be as not biased as possible, but I can't do it. I searched some facts then got on a 30 minute phone call so I lost my train of thought, but here's some stuff for you:

Baseball:
Boston has been in the top 3 teams to have the best overall (home+away) attendance percentage since 2004, when they were 4th.

Toronto? Bottom three WORST from 2009-2012. And the Montreal ExpOHWAIT

http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance/_/year/2004/sort/allPct

Basketball:
Celtic's lowest percentage in the past 5 years was 97.6% attendance at home
Jun 23 2013 1:17AM
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Funnel
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San Francisco. Giants, Sharks, Warriors, and 49ers. It's not really arguable like Boston is. San Francisco is it right now, no matter how much people hate to admit it.
Jun 23 2013 1:23AM
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fujarome
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San Francisco actually has a decent shout in this.


But to consider all those sports you have to refer to it as the bay area. Because you're listing off teams that play in 3 major cities vs teams that play in 1.


best sports region? Probably. Best sports city? No.
Jun 23 2013 1:31AM
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icon1234
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Boston sports fans are by far the most disrespectful pieces of shit I have ever fucking scene. I hate every fucking team from Boston completely due to their fans.

Are they loyal to their teams? Sure. But in terms of giving respect to other teams, or if god forbid a player were to leave their precious team they crucify them as if they meant nothing at all to them, it just disgusts me.

I hate Boston.

If you want to talk about the most loyal sports fans who also imo aren't complete assclowns, def goes to cleveland. Man those guys are loyal and their teams always suck year after year.
Jun 23 2013 1:45AM
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1337
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I laughed, but it's so true. Sucks for them :(
Jun 23 2013 1:46AM
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PacificRimJob
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San Francisco fans are GARBAGE. Bay Area fans in GENERAL are garbage.

Giants = massive bandwagon. Easily as bad as Boston's or New Yorks. Oh? the teams losing? I HATE BASEBALL! STUPID SPORT. Teams winning? I FOLLOWED AND SUPPORTED FROM DAY ONE OMG..

That, and the hoards of fans showing up late and leaving early at both 49ers and giants games, complaining about loudmouth fans in the stadium who actually get up and cheer for their team? (My father was removed from a 49er game once for being too loud... is that possible?)

That shit is NOT what constitutes a good sports town.

Sharks fans? You can make the case there, but that's San Jose. That's like saying Anaheim is "LA" (I'm looking at you, Los Angeles Angels of Disneyland) The Warriors? That's a joke... PLUS they play in Oakland - a place white fuckers from San Mateo wouldn't step foot in because 'OH NO BLACK PEOPLE AND GANGS... I have never been to a sold out regular season warriors game. Period. It was only recently people started wearing their jerseys with any pride at all...



...Having lived in the Bay Area, and being a fan of these teams, i can solidly say that fans there are beyond awful for the most part. Raiders fans can't even sell out the stadium, and A's fans are left to mostly die-hards and get out-sold by bandwagon Giants fans and idiots with halfway hats... Stanfurd football? Didn't even sell out their brand new stadium for like 4 or 5 years till they started winning, and Cal can't even sell out when they ARE winning (games against USC and UCLA don't count) They actually lowered the capacity for shitsakes.


Ugh... So annoyed with bay area fans, let me tell you... And then right up the road in Sacramento, you have a fanbase that fights tooth and nail for their one single basketball team... and sells out games for them. THATS a sports town in my opinion...




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Sparknotes: Bay Area fans are the worst in sports - the end.

Jun 23 2013 4:45AM
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Bombogenesis
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You used to be able to sit behind home plate at a jays game for $10 cause there would be 1000 people there.

Heck maybe you still can
Jun 23 2013 9:08AM
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Lemuel
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ITT: Bias
Jun 23 2013 9:15AM
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Lemuel
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I had to look up what this was
Jun 23 2013 9:21AM
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hey-dude-its-me
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Boston fans with shitty memories are the only ones who think its Boston
Jun 23 2013 9:35AM
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GayWolf420
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lol ann arbor. Thats nothing but liberal hippie lesbians and trustafarians. Detroit on the other hand is one of the best sports towns. The lions have one of the strongest fanbases, its absurd.
Jun 23 2013 9:49AM
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Bogs
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Except San Francisco fans are god awful.
Jun 23 2013 10:24AM
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corona
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yep.


I seriously think everyone in this thread has a brain tumour.


The ONLY reason Boston is even considered is because their teams have been doing well. When their teams suck, the vast majority doesn't give a shit about them.



Also I was in not way saying Toronto is the best sports city. Just saying it would even deserve it more than Boston.

Their hockey, baseball, soccer, and basketball teams have all been absolute shit in the past decade, yet take the average out of the 4 and you still have 90+% attendance records. that's COUNTING baseball.

Then include their only team that actually does well, the Argonauts, who have nearly 100% attendance and you completely blow Boston out of the water.



Out of 5 teams for Toronto you have a similar attendance record for 4 in Boston. Didn't someone say more teams makes in more difficult to fill up arenas?

Then on top of that Toronto is having this awesome attendance while their teams sucks balls.


Did everyone miss the post showing Boston have shitty attendance when their NHL team was doing poorly, then have it spike right up when it started doing well?

That's the definition of fair weather fans. Unless you want to try blaming that on socio-economic problems..


You have to really have your head damn far up your ass to not see that Boston is NOT a great sports town.



Also why would you say only North American cities count??

Is that because we suck compared to elsewhere in the world?
Jun 23 2013 10:34AM
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JonasJuhler
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German cities has to be mentioned here. Even a team from the top of the 2nd Bundesliga in Germany can pull an attendance average of 55.000 people every year.
And don't even get me started on the attendance of the top teams. It isn't a coincidence that the champions league final was between dortmund and bayern
Jun 23 2013 10:37AM
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whoa-dere
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College towns.
Jun 23 2013 10:55AM
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corona
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also I didn't know Boston has an MLS team. I guess we need to include that in their attendance records.

Now let's see, what are they...


ranging from about 15-25% in the past decade. That's way worse than the Jays!

I wonder why they have such terrible attendance. Could it be that the team sucks? or that nobody cares about soccer.


Either way, if you discount the MLS team, Toronto can discount the Jays and then there just isn't even a competition.

If you include the MLS team, 20% sure drags down the numbers. Aaand Toronto wins this anyways.
Jun 23 2013 10:55AM
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corona
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Toronto DOES have soccer. Toronto FC in the MLS. wtf are you talking about??



Also, where are you getting those figures from?? they're wrong.

Look here: http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

it shows:

62, 53, 46, 40, 46, 59, 58, 56, 49, 46.

that averages 52%



Leafs are at 100%, Argo's pretty much 100%, maybe 98%. Raptors are between 80-90, Toronto FC between 90-100.


So 95% without the Jays, 86% with. For teams that suck balls.


Boston can be 100% and soon as you include their MLS team, which you have to, they're at 84%. FOr teams which are winning.


Toronto fans > Boston fans.,


And I'm not even from Toronto. DOn't even like Toronto.
Jun 23 2013 11:31AM
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corona
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also Boston doesn't have 100 in all the others. a few seasons in the 80's for the Bruins when they were sucking brings them down.
Jun 23 2013 11:34AM
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