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Answering to binding adjustment question: the memo

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quebecfreestyler
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Ok I,ll make it short and clear: if you are not a certified shop tech or know exactly waht you are talking about, dont anser to any of the binding adjustment questions.

If you lead someone in the wrong direction, you may be responsible for screwing hisknees and maybe other parts of his body big time.

Mar 4 2008 11:30PM
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tomahawk
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haha you couldnt have said that better.
Mar 4 2008 11:32PM
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Silence
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Truth.
Mar 4 2008 11:32PM
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quebecfreestyler
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bump
Mar 5 2008 11:03AM
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uni-corn
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I agree with you on this a lot. But even though i am not a certified ski tech, i do have a fair understanding of most bindings out there(more than most people on this site). And with that knowledge, i can sometimes discern what is wrong/offer my help.

I mean that in no way to sound cocky, but some of the questions are really stupid, and have an easy answer.
Mar 5 2008 11:08AM
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quebecfreestyler
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true, some question are really stupid and easy to anser but some answers coming form some members are very stupid too
Mar 5 2008 11:58AM
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1337chronic
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ced youve been online to much latley...
Mar 5 2008 12:28PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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word
Mar 5 2008 12:42PM
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uni-corn
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Ya that is true. It is then really up to the person asking the question to determine what is a legit answer and what is complete bullshit
Mar 5 2008 12:45PM
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quebecfreestyler
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I got a week off and the weather is hurricane  like with flat light...

Mar 5 2008 12:53PM
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Silence
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There should be a disclaimer somewhere here limiting liability on the part of the website or its members for any advice given with bindings and DIN adjustment etc. Certified or not, there is potential to open up a can of worms one day.

If the people asking the adjustment questions understand that any advice they take is at their own risk; may be wrong; may be different under visual inspection etc - then everyone can feel a lot more comfortable -= but Ced you are right, there will come a time when someone tells another kid whose 5'5 140 to crank his FKS to 11 and he breaks his knee and comes back to NS complaining because daddy is a lawyer.

I agree - keep the responses to those that are certified/know their shit.
Mar 5 2008 3:44PM
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Love_Wins.
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Thank you.

Some of the responses to binding questions have just been ridiculous.
But in general, there are a handful of people here in the collective who know our stuff, and it's annoying to have to argue with 130lb, 13 year olds saying they need to set the DIN to 11 cause their boot is moving around and they keep pre-releasing.
Mar 5 2008 4:03PM
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Silence
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hahahahaha thats so true. "so..I guess i should just keep turning the screw until i don't come out any more...is that right? It MUST be the spring.."
Mar 5 2008 4:09PM
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Microcosm
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I normally only try and recommend them to put their din up if they obviously need it up. like someone who's 200 lbs and 6 ft tall but has a din of 4. even in those cases though, it's best to bring it to a shop and see what they say. and obviously you don't want to crank it from 4 to 8 all at once. if you're going to do anything bring it up one number or less and see how it goes.
Mar 5 2008 7:54PM
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Love_Wins.
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Yeah, general rule of thumb is half a full number setting at a time, assuming the forward pressure and everything else is set correctly.
Mar 5 2008 8:10PM
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hollygrove
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I'm scared of high dins.
I blew my knee at 8 or 9, and I'm 6'3 165 pounds, and a strong skier. With that being said, the shop sets me at 6 1/2, so I don't nessesarily agree with relying on a shop for DIN.
Mar 5 2008 8:38PM
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jfbolieuvaldi
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true..just.. true     thank for that ahaha

Mar 6 2008 6:16PM
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wiegz44
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yeah im 6'1 165 and put a type 3+ skier and my dins were set at like 8.5 or 9 and almost broke my ankle from them not releasing, so now i put a type 3 and my shop sets them to 7.5 and i dont mess with them at all and it works great
Mar 6 2008 8:02PM
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quebecfreestyler
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everyone that write down their weight, heigt and their abilty level without telling their boot sole lenght just prove my point right here.
Mar 6 2008 8:08PM
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quebecfreestyler
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bump because I,m sick of seing  more inadequate  answers to binding question
Mar 7 2008 12:02AM
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wiegz44
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most shops dont ask you to put down your bootsole for them, you give them your boots and they look at them and find the bootsole themselves
Mar 7 2008 12:12AM
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J.D.
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That's not the point. The point is that you can't properly answer binding adjustment questions on a website without knowing a person's sole length.
Mar 7 2008 12:17AM
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quebecfreestyler
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yea because they know theyr stuff and  know it's important and they can figure it ut by themselve and need to test with the boot anyway.

If you tell people you din setting in order fothem to compare ther din and figure out wic din they should ride at without stating you boot sole lenght, then you are giving incorect information to someone that you  shol as well keep for yourself.

Mar 7 2008 12:17AM
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wiegz44
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i completely agree, i was just showing him that his are probably off because i am the same size as him and that he should go to a shop to get them retested
Mar 7 2008 8:31AM
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mntelebumper
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bump for good topic, this should be a sticky,
Mar 7 2008 12:03PM
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MEGAZORD
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I am a certified tech
Mar 7 2008 12:04PM
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mntelebumper
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for what binding companies???
Mar 7 2008 12:05PM
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MEGAZORD
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All of them.
Mar 7 2008 12:10PM
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MEGAZORD
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All except vist.  But i do have a pair of deadbolts and know how they work/ are adjusted.
Mar 7 2008 12:11PM
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mntelebumper
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^ that is good to know, cause saying you a cert binding tec is worthless if your not certified for the company your talking about.
Mar 7 2008 12:17PM
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quebecfreestyler
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Yea but there is a diffenrence between thiking you know your bindings andpeople who actually understand how they works.

the first shouldnt talk but the second are ok i guess.

Mar 9 2008 9:36AM
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=nick=
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im only certified for look and rossi but i know a ton about every company but vist...cuz fuck vist haha
Mar 12 2008 4:08PM
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Silence
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ditto
Mar 12 2008 6:25PM
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huckaberry
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then they could have the first ns court trail!
Mar 15 2008 4:44AM
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steezeeepolizeee
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ya i am always sketch about telling my friends and such what how to set their bindings, i am able to properly set itl and i do it to my skis but i would feel terrible if something somehow went wrong with them. I don't have a problem telling them my preference for my weight/size/boot length but other them that i try and avoid it.
Mar 17 2008 3:32AM
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Reed.
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just curious, is anyone certified with Line Bindings?  Those are bitch to properly adjust and set correctly.  I used to have a pair, they sucked and broke in 2 weeks.
Mar 19 2008 10:13PM
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SEABURN
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those  line bindings were tanks and way to hard to adjust, I see them at my shop  from time to time and I  hate  them more every time.
Mar 23 2008 10:56PM
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PacificRimJob
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They are unidemnified... and therefore, cannot be worked on any more...

So send your reactors back to line for dollaz!
Mar 24 2008 1:00AM
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Chucktheweasel
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Haha, we got an exploded line binding come into our shop. The guy let us keep it and we rebuilt it... but so far nobody has the balls to actually try it. To hell with that binding.
Mar 25 2008 10:46PM
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23dude32
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i was wondering if i set up buyers bindings should i have a qualification's???
Apr 1 2008 5:48PM
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jergriff
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im also a tech at a shop people dont mess wit ur bindings if you dont know what the hell is going on?!
Apr 10 2008 10:29AM
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ValPow
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bit of agro on here
Apr 16 2008 11:43AM
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*kiwiNZ*
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I agree that unless you know what your talking about you shouldn't answer questions about bindings(everything) on here. However in my experiences shops don't really have that much of an idea anyway, they just work it out from a chart. So basically if you can read a chart you can do it yourself, as long as they are setup properly at the start. Shops will always set the bindings lower than what might be actually right for you because the American legal system is so fucked up and all you guys sue each other for things that are completely your own fault and the shops dont want to get sued.
On that point America is the only place where someone could actually sue someone from this site or the owner of the site for giving them advice which made them get injured. So there really should be a disclaimer when you join up that you have to accept to become a member.
May 3 2008 9:42PM
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MEGAZORD
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The difference with a shop setting and yourself is that we have the ability to check the release by huber or other release checking machine.
May 4 2008 10:52AM
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*kiwiNZ*
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Yeah but thats completely irrelevant!

We're talking about people advising other people on what their din should be.
Not on whether their binding is actually working properly.
If you can read a chart you can set/change your din, because thats all a shop does.
The fact that they then check that release doesn't matter.
If someone posts a question asking what their din should be and gives enough info about themselves to actually work it out, then you dont have to be that qualified to give advice on what their din should be. There are even online calculators that can work it out.

May 4 2008 11:05PM
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MEGAZORD
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Who is to say that the binding is actually releasing at the desired value.  Thats the point of the huber.  Especially when buying used bindings on here, how do you know its actually releasing at where its supposed to?
May 5 2008 9:41AM
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*kiwiNZ*
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Yeah but thats not the point of the thread.
I'm not arguing against getting your bindings checked especially if you buy them used.
But the whole point of this thread is telling people not to answer questions where people ask what their din should be unless you are qualified. Which is completely wrong when a shop works out the din from a chart. Anyone can do that with enough info!
May 8 2008 10:14AM
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Benhamine
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I really like taking advice from kids who ski 5 times a year and think they know what they are talking about though
May 9 2008 6:43PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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certified tech for 5 years and running.  All companies.

May 15 2008 2:39AM
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SHastatahoe
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Claim! 


May 16 2008 2:41PM
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Squirrel_Murphy
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ok sorry, 4 and half.
May 16 2008 9:05PM
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