I'll give them a B- overall. Back in 03, I would have given them a 9 of course because back then they were in the top flite of park skis on the market - being much more durable than the armadas and 4frnts that had just emerged, much better in the park than the atomics with betatech, better made than the PE's, and probably 2nd only to the, then new, rossignol scratches - which even from 03 is still a solid ski in todays world.
They are a really good pickup if you want a cheap, easy, urban ski that you can just thrash around on handrails and such for a season or two and then make a fence out of them..
In the park, they are definitely good. really nice on boxes and stuff, and they are soft enough everywhere to butter around really nicely. Pretty good off jumps too. Not bad whatsoever.
They arent bad in the powder either.. well, not HORRIBLE I should say. They are destined to sink, as they are only 80 underfoot, but they are a park ski. If you're looking for something from the spaceframe era to be good in pow, go for the pocketrockets I guess.
these are really nice for just mashin around though. edge hold isnt very good on harder snow, as they will wash out pretty badly.
Salomon slightly changed the design with the spaceframe models you see here. They put a little bit denser isoflex foam in the core, making them slightly stiffer, but still fairly noodly. tip is much different looking from the tails, which is kinda weird.. but hey.. this same ski was around until the 2006 thrusters, so they arent all that horrible. They have a very similar design to the CR Labs and the Candide Labs of 2004. same isoflex pattern, but they are fairly different dementions and the core is a little less dense from what I understand.
Graphically? They are pretty simple. You have digital sorta look to it, and you can see the braiding of fibreglass throughout the ski. There is a Salomon logo at the top, and an orange robot guy who is what I have decided on as being VOLTRON, just cuz that would be badass. There is also a backlayering of the robot in realllly light orange that you cant make out that covers both of the skis in one big graphic. Sorta cool.
The bases on these are quite varied. Some are black, with a neon yellow and light blue SALOMON that goes from the tips to about 14" down the ski on both skis. Others are Neon yellow with a black salomon Diecut accross the middle, and many are just plain black, like mine are. Which is really good if you just have a shit ton of black Ptex, because it looks the same.
You can probably find these around for less than 100 bucks, seeing as they are 5 years old now. I got mine back in 04, and though the camber is kinda going out, still a fun ski. They get softer with age.
I have the 171 length. The silver ones. They are pretty good for someone between 120 and 160 and under 6'.
I have them mounted 2cm back from center, which seems to almost fight against the ski going forward because of the oldschooly sidecut not being ellipical towards the center. Still, its nothing you cant overcome, and they actually ski pretty well switch.
Fairly soft in the tips, but stiffer in the tail. Kinda weird flex pattern, but they arent bad for 03 models. They are fairly good park skis. nothing special at all and by no means near symmetrical, but they work well.
The cores on these things are sorta crappy from what I understand. The Isoflex FOAM is pretty weak stuff when you get your weight into it, and they will snap much easier than most wood core skis. I havent snapped mine, but being how soft they are now, and how little camber they have left, I'm sure they will eventually start cracking on me. They werent made to last forever aparently.
They are Cap construction, and do not chip worth a darn. I dont have so much as a divot in mine, and i've skied them fairly hard over the years. Just some mediocre scrapes along the edge there, but still, these have held up really well in the department.
Love these boots, if they fit your foot, then don't hesitate to buy them, there a fairly soft boot but for the park or even all around for the lighter guys there a great option. Love them!
Performs fairly well, although fit is obviously the most important thing about boots, but if you want a park boot, these are a great option, or if your a lighter guy and want a nice all around soft boot, there awesome!
Love the see through green design, looks very sharp and I can right messages on the inside of my shell!
Boots are boots, there is no such thing as value, anyone who buys boots based on price shouldn't be buying that boot. Spend the money, and get the boot that fits well.
Fairly soft boot, the flex index is 85 which is realtively soft, but hey for a park boot, and even an all around boot for the lighter guys the flex is very nice and forgiving.
No issues here at all, buckles are all still in tact, liner is still in great shape.