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I got 2 pairs of these skis, the 2012/13 model and 2013/14 model. Both are really enjoyable in on and off piste and park too. Pow not great as there quite small underfoot but are super responsive. I feel they are quite stiff when they are new but after some regular use they soon loosen up and butters become pretty easy. I also feel that the newer model is slightly lighter in weight.
I went with an 8 here, and its based on value. I knocked a point off for the shitty design, and a point off for topcoat durability. They obviously are not as nice as some really nice 800 dollar ARMADAS but for 450, its a steal. I am going to use them to learn how to slide rails, beat the shit out of them, and move on with my cheap new bindings.
They seem pretty awesome so far. They turn alot sharper than I was expecting, although I did experience some issues in learning to turn them just because of the center mounted binding. The swing weight is super low compaired to my old Public Enemies, although I am not sure where they rank in compairison to newer skis. They really let me get those spins around on flat ground easy. I do wish they had a true semetrical shape to them though.
I personally dislike the topcoat design, other than the HEAD logo on the tips. It looks like a kid drew shit on them, and the tails have some kind of quotation on them, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what the hell it says. Bottoms are ok, black with HEAD plastered underboot. I am going to decal the hell out of them to cover up that ugly topcoat.
These were a steal for me personally. I got them from the mountain outfitter shop I work at for a mere $295 w/bindings. They come with MOJO 11 bindings. Without the employee discount they were 425-450, which is still pretty damn cheap.
I personally love the fit. I have the 172s, which are the same length as my old skis, comes up to my eyes and is just right. Gives me the edge control I need when I am doing steep terrain dispite the center mounted binding.
These are a bit stiff for park skis in my opinion. Nose butters are no problem, but tail butters are a bit problematic for me on them, something that was never an issue on my old skis. They seem to be ok coming down in the back seat off of small kickers though.
I havent had them long enough to really say much on durability. After 4 days of use, the topcoat is alreay starting to show some minor wear, and because of the super high-gloss finish on them, it really stands out. I have slammed one into a barrel dead on, and it stayed together, so that is looking good on the not-delaming front.