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.MASSHOLE.Lets start with the Blackrock vs. Blackstone:
Blackrock is an investment management company. They provide investments into mutual funds, ETFs, and alternative investments.Sure, they're invested in REITs but that's what any investment management company does. They're not buying up single family homes.
Blackstone is a private equity firm. They're the ones who purchased a company that bought up single family homes.
The source for Blackrock in that article? A fucking Reddit thread.
It's Blackstone that's purchasing houses AS MENTIONED IN THAT ARTICLE.
I'm curious, do you know what Trump's proposal for housing is? Relative to what Kamala's is?
I'll give you a hint, one address everything, one addresses a boogeyman.
Next is BRICS -
BRICS has done nothing for decades.
Lets look at their economics: Russia is fucked, South Africa is fucked, India would never bother moving away from their own currency since it gives them the economic freedom to do what they want, and the same goes for China.
Now lets look at international relations: Yes, China and Russia have close ties. India and Russia have close ties too. However India and China HATE each other. They still fight at their border annually. India and Brazil value democracy very highly, while China and Russia have been its biggest detractor.
So if you're trying to argue China's renminbi wants to replace the dollar? Sure, that argument would hold some weight until you look closer at what they've been trying to do with it.
If you're trying to argue that China and India would ever forgo currency independence, I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
Ukraine -
Yes, obviously I know that the $ aid that goes to Ukraine isn't actually dollars, it's equipment and munitions created by US companies. And no, Ukraine is not paying for all the aid immediately. Those contracts will stipulate that the US gets paid back over decades. For reference, the UK finally paid back the US from WWII recently. It's not being used as a monetary policy tool.
**This post was edited on Nov 6th 2024 at 2:33:27pm
.MASSHOLE.1. You do know those dollars aren't actually being sent to those countries right? They're funding American-domiciled companies to produce them. Sure, you can argue that they shouldn't make weapons but it's not like those $ are being handed over to those countries.
2. If you want to phase out GMOs, say goodbye to cheap food. GMOs make it so you can eat your bread, vegetables, meat, etc. when the "growing season" is less than ideal.
3. Nationalizing a central bank would never work because it'd introduce politics into a body that should be apolitical. I'm not going to bother giving you a primer on Central Bank theory but there are historical studies on nationalized banking systems. Needless to say, none exist today for a reason.
Her proposal on sales tax on stocks and inheritance tax increases are not unique to her.
4. Ranked-choice voting has taken off in several states without her influence. Again, not unique to her.
So what you're saying is she is all words and no action? Got it.
Call me crazy but it's easy to talk the talk but it's much harder to walk the walk.
Being a physician doesn't mean you're qualified to run a government. Hell, I've met quite a few dumb doctors in my life. There's a reason you don't see many successful physician-run offices anymore. They're good at medicine, shit at running a company.
I dont have time to go through all of this rn but one important thing is that we are sending cash to ukraine and Isreal, not just equipment.
Farmville420I dont have time to go through all of this rn but one important thing is that we are sending cash to ukraine and Isreal, not just equipment.
That's correct but the usage for that cash varies and ultimately, very little actually stays in the form of "cash" in Ukraine.
A large portion is used to purchase munitions from the US or other allied countries.
A another portion is used to fund activities for the US and European allies (e.g. not ending up in Ukraine)
A another portion is used to replenish the US munitions and armory stocks
Finally, another portion is cash used to provide economic relief to Ukraine.
So that final bit, I think is ~$20B of the $113B given to Ukraine.
Not sure what the case is for Israel, I imagine it's a similar breakdown with most being used to purchase munitions and a TINY amount being allocated to economic relief (if any)
So TL;DR - Yes, some comes in the form of cash but that cash has to be used for certain purposes. Only a small portion is used to economically benefit Ukraine.
**This post was edited on Nov 6th 2024 at 3:41:07pm
eheathhow can anyone possibly take you seriously when you believe this? get your head out of your ass.
You sound like a toddler arguing on here, all emotion and zero logic. A system cannot be sexist against women if women have an equal say in that system and they are a majority. Use your brain.
Womp -
Soybeans sank 18 to 20 cents after Donald Trump’s election reignited fears another trade war could harm U.S. agriculture.
Corn futures dropped 2 to 4 cents and wheat futures tumbled 6 to 10 cents as the U.S. dollar strengthened sharply.
Trump’s victory in Tuesday’s presidential election is likely to fuel concerns that U.S. farmers, already grappling with a sharp income drop due to slumping crop prices, may suffer further if the new president ramps up tariffs on China. Trump has vowed to impose a 60% tariff on Chinese goods and at least a 10% levy on all other imports. That’s stirred fears any trade war with China could be worse than the 2018-19 dispute that cost U.S. grain producers billions.
And the stock market just made me a thousand bucks today and also hit a record high.
Every financial instrument is soaring. I'll take that over soy boy antics anyday.
.MASSHOLE.Womp -
Soybeans sank 18 to 20 cents after Donald Trump’s election reignited fears another trade war could harm U.S. agriculture.
Corn futures dropped 2 to 4 cents and wheat futures tumbled 6 to 10 cents as the U.S. dollar strengthened sharply.
Trump’s victory in Tuesday’s presidential election is likely to fuel concerns that U.S. farmers, already grappling with a sharp income drop due to slumping crop prices, may suffer further if the new president ramps up tariffs on China. Trump has vowed to impose a 60% tariff on Chinese goods and at least a 10% levy on all other imports. That’s stirred fears any trade war with China could be worse than the 2018-19 dispute that cost U.S. grain producers billions.
.MASSHOLE.Womp -
Soybeans sank 18 to 20 cents after Donald Trump’s election reignited fears another trade war could harm U.S. agriculture.
Corn futures dropped 2 to 4 cents and wheat futures tumbled 6 to 10 cents as the U.S. dollar strengthened sharply.
Trump’s victory in Tuesday’s presidential election is likely to fuel concerns that U.S. farmers, already grappling with a sharp income drop due to slumping crop prices, may suffer further if the new president ramps up tariffs on China. Trump has vowed to impose a 60% tariff on Chinese goods and at least a 10% levy on all other imports. That’s stirred fears any trade war with China could be worse than the 2018-19 dispute that cost U.S. grain producers billions.
Why do candidates skip their watch parties or post-election speeches after a loss? I remember Hillary did the same. Does this happen often, and does it really matter?
eheathI think he won by a large margin because of sexism, not because he's sexist, because people didn't want to vote for a women, the US has deep seeded sexism (and racism) and elections are a stark reminder of that.
It’s not the only reason he won, but I think against another man it would have been a tighter race for sure.
I lived through “America will never have a black president” and I voted for that black president. Racism, sexism, yada-yada isn’t how Americans vote. They don’t vote AGAINST candidates they dislike, they vote for who they believe in. They voted for Obama because he delivered a message that they believed would make their lives better. That’s why they voted for Trump. It’s about messaging and Harris did it very poorly.
Do you honestly believe that Americans went into the ballot box and instead of voting for their interests, they deliberately voted AGAINST a woman?
I don’t think sexism was in play. And whether or not Trump’s plans are better for Americans is irrelevant. He convinced enough that they are.
-eREKTion-I lived through “America will never have a black president” and I voted for that black president. Racism, sexism, yada-yada isn’t how Americans vote. They don’t vote AGAINST candidates they dislike, they vote for who they believe in. They voted for Obama because he delivered a message that they believed would make their lives better. That’s why they voted for Trump. It’s about messaging and Harris did it very poorly.
Do you honestly believe that Americans went into the ballot box and instead of voting for their interests, they deliberately voted AGAINST a woman?
I don’t think sexism was in play. And whether or not Trump’s plans are better for Americans is irrelevant. He convinced enough that they are.
I have said this multiple times, I dont think kamala lost because shes a woman, I think trump being a man helped him win. I never said they voted against women, I said they voted for a man. Its not even a conscious decision.
but you guys can keep acting like the US isn't inherently sexist, willful ignorance.
Granby_killdozerYou sound like a toddler arguing on here, all emotion and zero logic. A system cannot be sexist against women if women have an equal say in that system and they are a majority. Use your brain.
Yes, im the toddler here, not the guy who thinks women have an equal standing to men. Spoken like a true, dumbass white man.
.MASSHOLE.I think the irony of this is that those blue collared workers see ZERO benefit from GOP platforms.
Tax cuts? Don't fall into the bracket that see's the most benefit.
Healthcare? That's the Democrats.
Social welfare? Again, Democrats.
Union Rights? Democrats.
Pro-labor policies? Democrats.
Infrastructure Bill? Democrats.
The list goes on.
The biggest knock against the Democrats is that the GOP paints them as the party that sold out work to international markets. People forget that the GOP used to be the globalist party, it was only Trump that appealed to the populists (and honestly has done dick-all for it despite what people claim).
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
And yes, the Democrats definitely have a messaging problem but when a policy of "Tariffs" and "Mass Deportation" is enough to win the PV, no message will overcome that.
That platform solves nothing, it only gives people something/someone to blame.
Personally, I find it incredibly elitist and patronizing how often I see people telling groups how to vote. Google Harris’ ads targeted at black men, for example.
Consider for a minute that each voter is a freethinking person and not strictly defined by their race, class, etc. Those people chose Trump because they believe he will make their lives and their country better. Harris didn’t convince enough of that. So the fault either lies in her policy or her messaging. But calling the working class dumb for “voting against their interests” is dumb as hell. They voted for their interests and you don’t get to tell them what their interests are.
Under Trump S&P saw 12.1% compounded growth from day he was elected to day Biden was inaugurated.
As of last Thursday, S&P saw 14.1% compounded growth under Biden.
All I'm saying is, a 1-day trade means dick all. Look at what happens 4 years from now when the next POTUS is elected.
And the fucking president has nothing to do with the stock market unless it roars the day after someone is elected. And you blaming trump on market losses during covid is fucking hilarious.
-eREKTion-Personally, I find it incredibly elitist and patronizing how often I see people telling groups how to vote. Google Harris’ ads targeted at black men, for example.
Consider for a minute that each voter is a freethinking person and not strictly defined by their race, class, etc. Those people chose Trump because they believe he will make their lives and their country better. Harris didn’t convince enough of that. So the fault either lies in her policy or her messaging. But calling the working class dumb for “voting against their interests” is dumb as hell. They voted for their interests and you don’t get to tell them what their interests are.
I'm not telling anyone how to vote.
I'm merely pointing out the policy differences between the Democrats and the GOP.
One inherently is aimed at the working class, the other is aimed at the white-collared elite.
The messaging may suggest otherwise, but the actions do not.
People are welcome to vote based off what they think their interests are, but when a platform is built without substance, I'll certainly question their ability to determine how their interests are being served.
An economic platform built off tariffs, deportation, drilling, and tax cuts isn't one that's going to serve the working class. I don't care what you think, historical data will show that all of these things (save drilling which is already at an all-time high) have a net negative impact on the working class.
VTshredder69And the fucking president has nothing to do with the stock market unless it roars the day after someone is elected. And you blaming trump on market losses during covid is fucking hilarious.
I mean over a 4 year period they certainly do...
Call me crazy but GDP growth, employment rates, and fiscal policy all play a roll in how the economy functions and in turn how the stock market reacts....
And how one handles a global pandemic certainly does as well.
But hey. What do I know? I only worked in the financial markets for 5+ years.
.MASSHOLE.I mean over a 4 year period they certainly do...
Call me crazy but GDP growth, employment rates, and fiscal policy all play a roll in how the economy functions and in turn how the stock market reacts....
And how one handles a global pandemic certainly does as well.
But hey. What do I know? I only worked in the financial markets for 5+ years.
I'm guessing you no longer work in the markets because you weren't very good at it.
-eREKTion-As a fun thought experiment for democrats: Imagine a construction worker, he has a campaign sticker on his hard hat, what’s the sticker say? Now a factory worker walking out after a long shift to his truck, what’s the bumper sticker say?
The DNC has lost the working vote. The liberal wing of US politics is no longer liberal, it’s progressive leftist. Coastal elitists have stolen the party from the working class and sold you identity politics dogma in place of policy. Welcome to the GOP dynasty. Calling the next 2 generals going red, as well.
I mean both parties have. But Trunp being the voice of the working man is interesting. Especially how he viewed then in the when he wasn't in politics and using that for votes.
As far as the identity politics the right womg playbook has def been about getting men riled about about other people. Whether its women, gay, etc rights ruining masculinity(Big with the rogan and friends fans) or the brown people took our jobs.
It's not really a solution to anything.
Not saying that's where you're at but there's def a lot of angry young men and plenty of grifters making $$ of of that driving people more into the "Everything is woke! Where did masculinity go" kind of vibes.
The rural places have always been more right leaning. The industry and heavy equipment world as well. This was some wild shift because democrats were too woke.
As far as the DNC maybe they'll learn something for future elections and actually give people what they want. They've run some shit candidates. Biden was terrible and only won because people wanted to get rid of Trump, and that was the option.
I understood voting for Biden, but never understood people that actually believed he was a great candidate.
I hope the DNC will change but who knows.
Also I work in the world of equipment pishing snow or dirt around.
VTshredder69You mean because of Covid? Lol. I don't think that had anything to do with Trump.
I'm looking at 1 Day surge as a fact the market is surging in American Confidence.
So Trump can’t control the stock market because of global pandemic. But Biden must control pandemic-induced inflation despite it impacting the globe?
VTshredder69And the fucking president has nothing to do with the stock market unless it roars the day after someone is elected. And you blaming trump on market losses during covid is fucking hilarious.
Now the president has no impact on the stock market?
VTshredder69Biden's market was fuckign mid day after his election.
But Biden has an impact on the stock market. Can we get a little consistency here?
democrats gave themselves 2 chances to present a viable candidate and offered us fossilized pedo and zionist cop. would be fucking hilarious if we didn't just end up with an orange painted mixture of both
Christian_BalePolitics aside i hope we can all agree this is one of the cringiest guys alive rn
Not really though. I mean yes I think he is but there's a bunch of people in the Rogan sphere who worship him and everything he does. Honestly thought the only reason Rogan hadn't endorsed Trump was to keep his fake "both sides" thing going. I guess he decided the fanboys would become bigger fans and the other already stopped listening to him yeats ago.
There's a lot of men, especially young men that are fully invested in the grifters that are regulars on Rogan. They quote Jordan Peterson regularly, probably love Ben Shapiro and whatever other guys.
Maybe it was always a bit like that as he already had those people on regularly and was friends with and Milo Yiannopolis and had him on the show. That was already there whem I started listening.
Idk I had friends who listed and their werent many podcats. 3 hours is greag when you run equipment and have long drives.
I remember Candace Owens being on their here first time in 2017 or 2018. I would listen to many of them even if I didn't know the people. I was like, "Holy fuck, this woman seems like a straight grifter" Completely insincere.
Sure he's spoken to all kinds of people but he really helped to platform a lot of alt righr types as well as some grifter types. Many were regulars on his show.
I kept listening for a while and skipping the jordan peterson, shapiro etc types. But just grew over it. And there were plenty of good podcasts out.
Interesting that some of those people like Milo were involved in the gamergate shit which all tracks.
Men can't be men again moral panic shit.
Was interested to see where someone like Rogan would go having such a big voice. And yeah, here we are.
Him and these other people make men feel masuline again. And it's these other people trying to take it away. Women, gay, trans, "woke" people.
They worship people like Rogan, Musk, Adrew Tate, Peterson.
It's a weird vibe. Also anectdotal but a work friend(20 something)had broken up with his girlfriend was super into Jordan peterson and the other guys posting quotes all the time. Posts about musk alllllll the time. Listens to primarily Rogans podcast.
I was like yup that tracks with my vibe on those people. This was 4 years ago. I haven't listened to Rogan in years other than Zach Bryan over a year ago. I'm sure its gotten worse and he's had more sketchy guests and the main players on more regularly.
Sorry for the two long didn't read, just saying a lot of people worship Musk and those other guys and don't think he's in anyway cringe.
Sparknotes: Rogen, Musk, and Rogans grifter friends are heroes to a lot of young guys. They don't think Misk os cringey, they borderline worship him. Idk if Rogan was always a bit right leaning or sliding that way but def wasn't really "both sides" ever.
Granby_killdozerWhat rights do men have that women don’t???
SteezyYeeterthere's no answer for that. he will just keep calling you insane without responding to a single thing you say. maybe he treats women differently? lol.
seriously though, what the fuck happened to evan heath to make him so unbearably woke? who taught you what unconscious bias is lmao??
The obvious answer is the right to bodily autonomy but there's no point in arguing about that because it seems like your opinion is that it's irrelevant, since men can't get pregnant and a lot of white women voted for politicians who support that. I'm not even making a moral argument here I'm just stating what I consider to be a fact, which is that there are existing laws that make women's lives harder.
theabortionatorSparknotes: Rogen, Musk, and Rogans grifter friends are heroes to a lot of young guys. They don't think Misk os cringey, they borderline worship him. Idk if Rogan was always a bit right leaning or sliding that way but def wasn't really "both sides" ever.
The thing is, I understand the appeal for some of them. Rogan at least used to be more normal and open minded, listening to both sides of various topics. Plus he's not a massive pussy like Musk. Jordan Peterson has also fallen off pretty hard in the last few years but a lot of left leaning people seem to discount the fact that his self help books contain some solid advice that has helped a lot of people. Even andrew tate knows how to be entertaining but with people like musk and shapiro I just cannot see the appeal
SteezyYeeterthere's no answer for that. he will just keep calling you insane without responding to a single thing you say. maybe he treats women differently? lol.
seriously though, what the fuck happened to evan heath to make him so unbearably woke? who taught you what unconscious bias is lmao??
My guess is he has a hard on for some liberal chick and wants to show that "he's not one of the bad ones". There's nothing liberal women love more than portraying themselves as victims and I'm sure he's fully bought into that narrative unfortunately.
Granby_killdozerMy guess is he has a hard on for some liberal chick and wants to show that "he's not one of the bad ones". There's nothing liberal women love more than portraying themselves as victims and I'm sure he's fully bought into that narrative unfortunately.
agreed. he should lean more into the fact that trump is also white. that'll really get her wet.
also, you guys seeing the lib meltdowns? SOOOO FUNNY. I'ma wake up a motherfuckin slave 😂 the one where the fat dude rips his shirt LOL.
surely even you libs find those people funny? or is that you? get help if so lmaooo
**This post was edited on Nov 6th 2024 at 10:16:56pm
Christian_BaleThe obvious answer is the right to bodily autonomy but there's no point in arguing about that because it seems like your opinion is that it's irrelevant, since men can't get pregnant and a lot of white women voted for politicians who support that. I'm not even making a moral argument here I'm just stating what I consider to be a fact, which is that there are existing laws that make women's lives harder.
You know what, I will concede that women do not have bodily autonomy in the case of pregancy. It is a unique situation because after all they are the ones that bear the burden of producing a human life. That particular bodily finction of women is a subject of moralistic arguments because it involves another person's life though. the point of viability is largely understood to be 27 weeks. I personaly think that after that point a baby should be carried to term but honestly it's not my business and it shouldn't be the government's business. It's a medical procedure and the government doesn't give a shit about my medical issues. my health is also entirely my responsibility though. there is no equivalent of planned parenthood for men that checks me for testicalar cancer. if the public has to fund these medial procedures then the morals of the people funding those procedures should come into play. That's why medically assisted suicide is not available in most countries. It shouldn't be anyones business but if you are paying for it then you get to have a say.
**This post was edited on Nov 6th 2024 at 10:23:33pm
.MASSHOLE.Nope, didn't enjoy it. Went back to b-school instead.
Glad to see you resorted to ad-hominems since you clearly can't debate the fact that all of those figures impact the stock market.
Whoops - Single day Dow
**This post was edited on Nov 6th 2024 at 4:45:19pm
Go back to 4 years ago when you were losing your mind over the wuflu. You stated the mandates to shut down the nation were far more important than the inflation that was coming down the pipeline.
That same inflation you argued was going to be minimal in comparison to benefits we received from lockdown is still destroying Americans today 4 years later.
It is the largest reason why DJT won and why independent voters swung to him in every closing poll.
The Democratic Party died last night, it died from the inflation still being felt from the Covid lockdowns that were the cure much worse than the disease.
Film.Go back to 4 years ago when you were losing your mind over the wuflu. You stated the mandates to shut down the nation were far more important than the inflation that was coming down the pipeline.
That same inflation you argued was going to be minimal in comparison to benefits we received from lockdown is still destroying Americans today 4 years later.
It is the largest reason why DJT won and why independent voters swung to him in every closing poll.
The Democratic Party died last night, it died from the inflation still being felt from the Covid lockdowns that were the cure much worse than the disease.
The soft landing would agree with me it was a risk worth taking.
But let's point out the irony here - Trump began the stimulus, not Biden. So how is it that Biden got blamed for it entirely?
Either way, it was a risk worth taking given the alternative was to let unemployment sky rocket even higher and crash the economy even harder.
Because, unironically, the outcome would likely be the same. Biden would have been blamed for a lackluster recovery and not doing enough.
FunnelSo Trump can’t control the stock market because of global pandemic. But Biden must control pandemic-induced inflation despite it impacting the globe?
Now the president has no impact on the stock market?
But Biden has an impact on the stock market. Can we get a little consistency here?
not what i said but OK.
Looking at the stock market day after the election for consumer confidence in GDP outlook per the elected leader.
.MASSHOLE.The soft landing would agree with me it was a risk worth taking.
But let's point out the irony here - Trump began the stimulus, not Biden. So how is it that Biden got blamed for it entirely?
Either way, it was a risk worth taking given the alternative was to let unemployment sky rocket even higher and crash the economy even harder.
Because, unironically, the outcome would likely be the same. Biden would have been blamed for a lackluster recovery and not doing enough.
It was a damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Biden and Trump are both to blame.
But it's more so on the democrats trying to shut down society over a 99.9% survival rate virus. Or the fact they tried to prevent non vaxxed citizens like myself from participating with false science.
hi_vis360Borderline funny how bad the democrats fucked this one up. Didn’t hold a primary and tried to run a dementia patient, abandoned the anti war movement, fucked up the border and then tried to fix it last minute when they realized people weren’t happy, and overall just tried to appeal to a moderate voter base that doesn’t actually exist lol. They’re a failure of a party, stoked I will have an independent who loves local ag representing me in the state senate and an independent senator
This is probably the most reasonable and smart take about how the Dems fucked this up big time that I’ve seen in this entire thread.
I guess moving the Democratic Party further right on the political spectrum and by going on a cross country tour with Liz Cheney and Ritchie Torres, with both of them telling minority voters that we’re going to deport their family members or kill their relatives in the Middle East, isn’t the right move to win over undecided voters. And it seems like they ran on the same values as the Biden campaign in 2020 in hopes that we forgot that they didn’t do shit in those 4 years. But yeah, let’s keep running on the same social values that we were going to pass in those 4 years and didn’t, which we’ll wave those policies over the voters’ heads as a threat.
People like socially progressive policies, they just deeply despise the Democratic Party.
