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Armada ARV 86 vs. Line TW Pro

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shuvit
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I’m debating between these two for my park skis next year. I want something that’s light, poppy, and durable. I’m new to park but not new to skiing. What do you guys think?
May 19 2023 12:57PM
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qrabs
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Lines are not durable I REPEAT LINE IS NOT DURABLE 💀💀
shuvitI’m debating between these two for my park skis next year. I want something that’s light, poppy, and durable. I’m new to park but not new to skiing. What do you guys think?
May 19 2023 1:57PM
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Vish-shoe
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shuvitlight, poppy, and durable.

189 wet
May 19 2023 2:02PM
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BIIIGZ
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My ARV 86 served me well learning park and have held up for 3 seasons of straight up abuse. Clipping rails, knocking edges together, skiing over rocks, they are still perfectly skiable with a few edge cracks, top sheet damage (to be expected with Armada & most park skis), and sidewall dents. They are fairly stiff but definitely break in and are a super versatile ski for learning park. Very durable.

I haven’t skiid the Twalls but from what i’ve heard they are somewhat equal but have a slightly better flex profile/pop/shape, but at the cost of lots of durability issues.
May 19 2023 2:50PM
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shuvit
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BIIIGZMy ARV 86 served me well learning park and have held up for 3 seasons of straight up abuse. Clipping rails, knocking edges together, skiing over rocks, they are still perfectly skiable with a few edge cracks, top sheet damage (to be expected with Armada & most park skis), and sidewall dents. They are fairly stiff but definitely break in and are a super versatile ski for learning park. Very durable.

I haven’t skiid the Twalls but from what i’ve heard they are somewhat equal but have a slightly better flex profile/pop/shape, but at the cost of lots of durability issues.


Thanks for the help, are the ARVs light? That’s one of the main things I’m looking for
May 19 2023 2:51PM
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BIIIGZ
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The ARV 86 in 170 length are 1550g per ski and the Twalls are slightly heavier at 1800g for the 171 length, but they are also wider at 90 underfoot, so the ARV are lighter. You can also just look this up yourself lol. The weight of skis sometimes changes between model years and obviously changes between different ski lengths.
May 19 2023 2:57PM
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BIIIGZ
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shuvitThanks for the help

for sure man
May 19 2023 2:58PM
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Agate420
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If you want your skis to last more than half a season i would go with the ARV 86
May 19 2023 3:03PM
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KilaTsunami
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I rode both of them at demo day last year . TW Pro blew it out of the water in my opinion. ARV was too stiff and just not playful enough for my liking. TW had juuuuust enough flex to fling u on and off stuff.
May 19 2023 7:22PM
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shuvit
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KilaTsunamiI rode both of them at demo day last year . TW Pro blew it out of the water in my opinion. ARV was too stiff and just not playful enough for my liking. TW had juuuuust enough flex to fling u on and off stuff.


I don’t really care about flex, I’m just learning so I want something that’s light and poppy more than anything else
May 19 2023 7:28PM
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KilaTsunami
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shuvitI don’t really care about flex, I’m just learning so I want something that’s light and poppy more than anything else


Tw pro all day, But as I’m sure you know by reading threads on here. The sidewalls are fragile. Detune heavily and tread lightly. Handle with care
May 19 2023 10:23PM
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Zurg
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I skied both last year. I would definitely recommend getting arvs over the TWalls. Unfortunately I only had a dozen days before my TWalls blew up underfoot. The arvs went strong for the 20 days I used them with no issues. I will agree with the posts above that are saying the wallischs are lighter and more playful. That being said it isn't a huge difference in the weight and playfulness.
May 20 2023 6:42PM
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Pakanaka
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I been telling people for years that line skis are not durable. people only just catching on now.
May 21 2023 6:12PM
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Liamsasd
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Dont get the Tw’s seen multiple blow up in mere hours or days, they are good skis for the 5 minutes they last you but then you have 2 sets of ski blades so
May 21 2023 6:14PM
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FaunaSkis
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shuvitI want something that’s light, poppy, and durable.

our Alparka sounds like it could be a good fit. Good for some quick progression all over the park.
May 22 2023 6:11PM
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shuvit
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I ended up going with the ARVs if anyone was wondering, thanks for the help everyone :-)
May 22 2023 8:34PM
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