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Pivots changing DIN on their own?

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Shnedie
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I've been having problems with the DIN indicator on my pivot 15 toe piece raising when I click my boot in on both bindings. Has anyone seen this before or know what's wrong? They test correctly in terms of release forces, but I kind of have to step in a little more awkward than normal so it doesn't make me confident in them. The oldest ski tech at a local shop said he hasn't seen this happen before in his 25 years of mounting pivots but said I could probably warranty them if I want through one of Look's dealers. I've had to warranty like 3 seperate things this season and just want to ski, can this be fixed easily without shipping stuff around?
Mar 16 2023 12:36AM
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tominiemenmaa
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Definitely not ok. I wouldn't ski a binding behaving like this.
Mar 16 2023 1:39AM
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FaunaSkis
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Your forward pressure is likely too tight. The boot is pushing too hard against the toe and it’s flexing the pedestal. If you’re confident adjusting the forward pressure on the arms, loosen it off a bit until that’s not happening. If you’ve doubt though, take it to a store that stocks pivots and get the tech to check your set up.
Mar 16 2023 7:59AM
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Knees
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FaunaSkisYour forward pressure is likely too tight. The boot is pushing too hard against the toe and it’s flexing the pedestal. If you’re confident adjusting the forward pressure on the arms, loosen it off a bit until that’s not happening. If you’ve doubt though, take it to a store that stocks pivots and get the tech to check your set up.


Agreed I had this same issue early this season when moving to a new boot with the same stated BSL when it was actually just a little longer causing there to be to much forward pressure.
Mar 16 2023 8:11AM
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Vish-shoe
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Yeah, the new ones have automatic adjustment. They can find the right DIN for you.
Mar 16 2023 9:29AM
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bigcandybar
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I’d reckon that binder is just fine. Your supposed to set the Din while clicked in. The one dude might be on to something about the FP being a little to high.
Mar 16 2023 11:23AM
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Shnedie
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FaunaSkisYour forward pressure is likely too tight. The boot is pushing too hard against the toe and it’s flexing the pedestal. If you’re confident adjusting the forward pressure on the arms, loosen it off a bit until that’s not happening. If you’ve doubt though, take it to a store that stocks pivots and get the tech to check your set up.

I went to a different shop and they figured out that was partly the issue. The forward pressure arms were wayyyyy too tight but it still read correct forward pressure, and that was because almost every screw wasn’t tightened down enough so the whole toe piece would flex forward under all the pressure. So now with the arms correctly adjusted they are nearly to the end of their adjustment range so I’ll have to get them remounted if I ever get a bigger boot. Previously they mounted some of my sth2s to the end of their adjustment tracks on brand new skis, so I def don’t trust them anymore
Mar 16 2023 3:47PM
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FaunaSkis
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ShnedieI went to a different shop and they figured out that was partly the issue. The forward pressure arms were wayyyyy too tight but it still read correct forward pressure, and that was because almost every screw wasn’t tightened down enough so the whole toe piece would flex forward under all the pressure. So now with the arms correctly adjusted they are nearly to the end of their adjustment range so I’ll have to get them remounted if I ever get a bigger boot. Previously they mounted some of my sth2s to the end of their adjustment tracks on brand new skis, so I def don’t trust them anymore


Yeah… the indicator on pivots is not super reliable. You kind of go off of how the boot generally sits in the binding before and after clicking in and, as wild as it seems, the sound the binding makes when it clicks. Also having loose binding screws won’t help.
Glad you got it fixed.

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2023 at 4:39:37pm
Mar 16 2023 4:38PM
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bustedpivot
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Bro I would never again trust whoever originally set that up for you. What you described is a shitshow.
Mar 16 2023 6:05PM
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jca
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bustedpivotBro I would never again trust whoever originally set that up for you. What you described is a shitshow.


Yeah, whoever mounted those had no idea what they were doing.
Mar 18 2023 12:24PM
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