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nick.boernerIdk man I think at this point we just gotta keep diverting money to science and conservation efforts. I think that humans can always find a way out of everything if we come together and collectively work to solve a problem. The issue with that is not everyone is gonna want to get behind halting climate change/the end of the world because there’s more money to be made by just keeping our consumerist ways (and not everyone believes it’s happening). As a high schooler it’s stressful to know we’re inheriting a dying world :(
MoneyMakerMikeWe should be mire worried about china and India’s future carbon footprint if we actually want to reverse the climate crisis. Also many car companies have pledged to go fully electric in the coming years so that’s a step in the right direction.
STEEZUS_CHRI5TTip: Don’t believe everything you read.
SuspiciousFishAre we going to see different weather patterns and more extreme weather compounded by habitat destruction and poor planning? Yeah we are, the Boulder County fire is a good example of that. Are we all going to die and civilization collapse? Probably not. Should we still work to be more environmentally friendly? Yeah.
LonelyAlso, the whole "climate change is a hoax for people to make money" thing is hilarious to me. It's expensive. It's risky for the most powerful and wealthiest corporations and governments on earth etc.etc.
It's just another contradictory talking point.
"Climate changing is being pushed to make a bunch of money for the government and evil companies"
"We can't possibly pursue green energy with a heavy hand! You are restricting the rights of the companies I just called evil!"
CrunnchyPissFart*international coalition of climate scientists writing peer reviewed reports based on collected data from around the world* vs. "I dont think about it therefore it doesn't exist" yea sure bro dont believe everything you read
BiffbarfNot being terrified is bad for business though. Vestas, ge, siemens are all selling hell and everyone is tripping over their dicks to pay their tithes and repent their sins with carbon credits. The only people screaming that the end is near are religious zealots, always have been.
BiffbarfI want to be clear here, whether this is aimed at my posts or not-
Climate change is absolutely real. Wind and solar energy is also largely ineffective with current technology and energy demands, the energy density is just too low and inconsistent and transmission losses to remote areas is too high. There is great conflict of interest between what is effective, what is being legislated, and what is sold.
This doesn't mean stop pursuing greener energy supply. It is just essential to consider the emptiness of political promise and a corporation's willingness to profit off of non solutions.
LonelyI appreciate the nuance. I'm Genuiley interested-care to go into that conflict of interest part?
Young_pattyLmao, that’s cause the last book he read was probably a “magic treehouse” novel.
Mf sounds like the type to not believe science but instead does his own research on Facebook where the words aren’t as big and scary.
Seeing your responses in this thread is mad disappointing Biff, always kinda thought you were smarter than that tbh :/
like y’all we’re living in the apocalypse rn, it started the second we decided to make climate change a partisan issue. Those of you who are still in denial about it now are gonna have a super scary realization in a decade or so.
SuspiciousFishThe thing is they have been saying stuff like the world will end over climate change etc since the 1970s. I remember when we were going to have an apocalypse over peak oil and that never happened. The thing about fear is that its addictive and that addiction is used to make money. In a way, that is why we all ski because we love that adrenaline rush. The same thing goes for blogs, movies etc that shove alarmist views in your face because they know you get hooked on it which gives them more clout views and money. Alex Jones is a prime example of this. It also helps drive other agendas. For instance if you convince people the world will end in 2030 and scare the shit out of everyone unless you follow their XYZ agenda then it is an easier sell because you get people in that fear state of mind.
Here is a good article on it:
Are we going to see different weather patterns and more extreme weather compounded by habitat destruction and poor planning? Yeah we are, the Boulder County fire is a good example of that. Are we all going to die and civilization collapse? Probably not. Should we still work to be more environmentally friendly? Yeah.
700billionI just want to hear people's thoughts on the climate crisis. I'm sure most of you are aware of the very grim IPCC report that came out last year saying we are essentially fucked within out lifetime- which really came as no surprise. But what are you guys doing with this information? Anything at all? or just accepting that we are fucked. I mean seriously it seems hopeless imo, America is not going to just suddenly do a full 180 and change out consumerist ways and abandon the car and everything we are used to. so its like what were just gonna slowly burn the place down? I seriously think there's gonna be mass death in first world countries within the century (its already occurring in developing countries). Idk Im just on a meandering rant but curious to hear other people's rants on the topic, or see who denies it... or maybe y'all see a way out?