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Help on a do it all ski?

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willieD
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hi i currently ski on k2 sights and love them for park and some cruising on groomers but looking for something wider (around 100mm give or take) to use as more of a do it all ski (1:1:1 groomers, park, and all mtn, although i know it wont be perfect at any one of those).
looking for something maybe a lil stiffer if possible too.

im 84kg (185lb), 6'1" and a pretty relaxed skier but like to push my skis when i get a good chance to

so far ive narrowed it down to Rossignol Holyshred, K2 Poacher, Revolt 104, and QST 98.

if anyone has experience on any of these id be grateful for any input or any other suggestions.
cheers
Dec 16 2021 8:53PM 4 0
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Kevinb5
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Consider the Dysnastar Menace 98. I was in your exact situation a couple months ago I’m similarly sized and looked at all the skis you mentioned and I decided on the Dynastar Menace 98. I haven’t used them a lot only 2 days but so far I have been very happy with the all mountain and groomer performance. I haven’t taken them in the park yet but I’m expecting them to be pretty good considering the versatility. They are also easy to find cheap mine were $350.
Dec 16 2021 9:25PM 1 0
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willieD
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Kevinb5Consider the Dysnastar Menace 98. I was in your exact situation a couple months ago I’m similarly sized and looked at all the skis you mentioned and I decided on the Dynastar Menace 98. I haven’t used them a lot only 2 days but so far I have been very happy with the all mountain and groomer performance. I haven’t taken them in the park yet but I’m expecting them to be pretty good considering the versatility. They are also easy to find cheap mine were $350.

awesome thanks man ill have a look
Dec 16 2021 10:14PM 2 0
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muffMan.
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Dude the answer is ON3P jeffereys. And if price is an issue they have their factory sale atm
Dec 16 2021 10:17PM 7 0
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willieD
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Coleg55Dude the answer is ON3P jeffereys. And if price is an issue they have their factory sale atm

never really thought of on3ps before because i live in the uk and ski mostly in europe so they can be hard to come by but they look like a decent fit thanks a lot
Dec 17 2021 9:29AM 6 0
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Wasn’t going to post until I saw you are from the UK. There is a ski from the UK that fits exactly what you’re describing but it doesn’t go on sale until next year (idk if you have time to wait or want to buy now). It’s called the Fauna Omni. I grabbed a pair from the pre-production batch and I’ve got roughly 6 or 7 days on them so far. Ridiculous fun and solid. I hit rails, moguls, carve, etc. everything on them. I can’t believe they can be this light and whippy but still be solid when I’m bombing or carving GS turns. I got them in the 182.

https://faunaskis.com/product/omni/
willieDnever really thought of on3ps before because i live in the uk and ski mostly in europe so they can be hard to come by but they look like a decent fit thanks a lot
Dec 17 2021 9:44AM 4 0
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Lippamani
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I strongly recommend NOT getting poachers, I used them last season and gave them away. They are durable yes because they are literall bords.
Dec 17 2021 9:46AM 5 1
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Lippamani
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On3p s are probably the best option especially if you want something that's great on park and is still stiff enough for great stability on runs and jumps.
Dec 17 2021 9:59AM 7 0
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willieD
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BradFiAusNzCoCaWasn’t going to post until I saw you are from the UK. There is a ski from the UK that fits exactly what you’re describing but it doesn’t go on sale until next year (idk if you have time to wait or want to buy now). It’s called the Fauna Omni. I grabbed a pair from the pre-production batch and I’ve got roughly 6 or 7 days on them so far. Ridiculous fun and solid. I hit rails, moguls, carve, etc. everything on them. I can’t believe they can be this light and whippy but still be solid when I’m bombing or carving GS turns. I got them in the 182.

https://faunaskis.com/product/omni/

Yeah Im not in a rush. Omnis look sexy as hell and they’re from the uk???
interested to know how durable they’re gonna be over time because of the wood top sheets. Thanks a lot for the recommendation
Dec 17 2021 10:26AM 1 0
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muffMan.
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willieDnever really thought of on3ps before because i live in the uk and ski mostly in europe so they can be hard to come by but they look like a decent fit thanks a lot


Yeah shipping from west coast US would be a huge pain.
Dec 17 2021 11:09AM 1 0
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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A lot better than I expected. I’m about to take them out now. I can take a photo after I ski them today.
willieDYeah Im not in a rush. Omnis look sexy as hell and they’re from the uk???
interested to know how durable they’re gonna be over time because of the wood top sheets. Thanks a lot for the recommendation
Dec 17 2021 12:28PM 0 0
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Jems
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Ive heard lots of positive things about the revolt 104s, but I can recommend surface givers (100mm underfoot) or the k2 reckoner 102s.
Dec 17 2021 2:18PM 2 0
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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willieDYeah Im not in a rush. Omnis look sexy as hell and they’re from the uk???
interested to know how durable they’re gonna be over time because of the wood top sheets. Thanks a lot for the recommendation

How they looked this morning. The topsheet doesn’t chip any worse than other skis. Much better than volkls and lines I’ve had

Dec 17 2021 2:22PM 1 0
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willieD
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JemsIve heard lots of positive things about the revolt 104s, but I can recommend surface givers (100mm underfoot) or the k2 reckoner 102s.

Yeah I’d looked at recliner 102s but I think they’re too soft for what I’m looking for.
ill look into surface tho
Dec 17 2021 3:35PM 0 0
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Jems
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willieDYeah I’d looked at recliner 102s but I think they’re too soft for what I’m looking for.
ill look into surface tho


the surfaces are definitely on the lower side of durability, im not sure about how soft they are but I imagine they're very close to the reckoners
Dec 17 2021 3:36PM 2 0
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willieD
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BradFiAusNzCoCaHow they looked this morning. The topsheet doesn’t chip any worse than other skis. Much better than volkls and lines I’ve had



Oh sweet not a bad price on their website either might just cop
cheers for turning me onto them
Dec 17 2021 3:37PM 2 0
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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Of course. The owner is on here too. He can be reached at @FaunaSkis
willieDOh sweet not a bad price on their website either might just cop
cheers for turning me onto them
Dec 17 2021 4:26PM 6 0
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anders_a
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LippamaniI strongly recommend NOT getting poachers, I used them last season and gave them away. They are durable yes because they are literall bords.


you got the 184cm, but your 5 foot 100lbs? I liked the poachers, camber so you can get som energy from them.



to OP, all the skis you mentioned fits your need

My order on them would be revolt > poacher > holyshred > qst 98
Dec 17 2021 4:52PM 0 0
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willieD
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anders_ayou got the 184cm, but your 5 foot 100lbs? I liked the poachers, camber so you can get som energy from them.



to OP, all the skis you mentioned fits your need

My order on them would be revolt > poacher > holyshred > qst 98

Cheers for the input.

Part of me is a bit hesitant to go with Poachers because they might be too similar to my Sights. How do you find them on deeper days?

*edit - not that i don't love my K2 sights they're super underrated skis*

**This post was edited on Dec 17th 2021 at 7:31:23pm
Dec 17 2021 7:28PM 1 0
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Lippamani
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Is that what my profile says? I'm 510 and 150lbs and I had 170 poachers
Dec 17 2021 9:36PM 0 0
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anders_a
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willieDCheers for the input.

Part of me is a bit hesitant to go with Poachers because they might be too similar to my Sights. How do you find them on deeper days?

*edit - not that i don't love my K2 sights they're super underrated skis*

**This post was edited on Dec 17th 2021 at 7:31:23pm


I find them tiny :p

I'm 6'3 revolt 104s I have in 188, holyshred in 192

for deeper I do the revolt 104s, which are a surprisingly good allrounder
Dec 18 2021 5:06AM 0 0
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willieD
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Sounds good the more I look at the revolts I think they sound like they’re the one.

sounds like They could make the mountain my playground.
anders_aI find them tiny :p

I'm 6'3 revolt 104s I have in 188, holyshred in 192

for deeper I do the revolt 104s, which are a surprisingly good allrounder
Dec 20 2021 4:58PM 1 0
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BrandoComando
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willieDSounds good the more I look at the revolts I think they sound like they’re the one.

sounds like They could make the mountain my playground.


sorry bucko but there's only one ski that does that
Dec 20 2021 5:07PM 4 0
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Karkoskier
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vishnu key has been the best all around ski I've skied, 95mm underfoot, directional and recommended 1cm back. The wides are nice too with he 106mm underfoot and rocker is super fun and surfy, but I think the key is a better all mountain/ groomer ski bc of its directional shape.
Dec 20 2021 6:44PM 2 0
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AMango99
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Atomic bent chetler 100
volkl revolt 104
on3p Jeffery 102
moment wildcat 101

I demoed the QST 98 and disliked it compared to the bent chetler 100
Dec 22 2021 6:35PM 1 0
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willieD
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AMango99Atomic bent chetler 100
volkl revolt 104
on3p Jeffery 102
moment wildcat 101

I demoed the QST 98 and disliked it compared to the bent chetler 100

Funny a friend said the exact same thing about the QST
thanks for the suggestions
Dec 22 2021 9:23PM 0 0
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skiP.E.I.
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Faction Prodigy 2.0 might be worth looking at and available in europe.
Black crows Camox or Season.eqpt Nexus would be good options too!
Dec 25 2021 11:54AM 1 0
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sullivanob
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armada stranger
Dec 26 2021 2:12PM 2 0
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willieD
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*update*
in the end I went with the revolt 104s and just finished my first week on them at Les Deux Alps.
I wasn’t looking for a quiver killer but I think these are just that. Honestly my favourite skis I’ve ever been on. We were lucky to get on a big range of snow types from powder to slush to crud and I never felt held back, even on groomers I was surprised to have loads of fun carving mid speed arcs.
I got them in a 180 which I was worried would be too small for my size but maybe just due to my personal style this was perfect and the ski really felt like it was made for me.
cheers to everyone for their help and suggestions.
Apr 15 2022 3:19PM 4 0
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