Merry Climate Change

eheathChange in temperature from day to day, week to week has basically no correlation to climate change. Long term changes and more extreme weather is a sign of climate change.

CrunnchyPissFartI mean its been like this the past 5 years lmao, sounds like a pattern to me

eheath5 years is not anywhere near enough time to show climate change. Short term weather can be affected by overall warming, but just because it's 30 degrees warmer this week and 25 degrees colder next week is not a sign of climate change.

CrunnchyPissFartHomie I'm just sayin this feels like the start of something, the vibes are off and this shit smells fishy, maybe I cant *prooove* that its climate change but it sure do feel like it. Im stating what Im noticing because Id rather not wait until climate change is fully onset and we are fully fucked to try to make a change.

CrunnchyPissFartI will not wait until the government tells me its okay to be outraged about climate change to be outraged about climate change.

this shit is happening now and maybe we cant call it climate change yet but it sure aint good

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RyanWhitdogI would agree this weather is fucked dude no question about it. 5 years is also plenty of time. Most temperature rises are measured by decade intervals, so that’s half your n right there. Week to week swings are certainly climate change related? Melting ice caps, rising temperatures, rising ocean temperatures, decreased snow pack, droughts all lead to more rapid changes in weather patterns across the globe (that includes day to day homie).

eheathI dont think anyone here disagrees with you, but just because its warm one week in december doesn't indicate climate change, thats been happening for centuries, since as far back a records go.

Young_pattyMontana folk be like “lol climate change isn’t real libtard” while their ranch gets ripped apart by drought and wild fires.

like aight, y’all are digging your own graves.
Conventional beef farming is predicated to collapse by 2030 too but that’s another conversation we aren’t ready for out here.

RyanWhitdogI think his point is, these “warm weeks” are far outside the normal if you go back 250 years. So now that we have “warm weeks” the other “normal weeks” are already warmer than they should be if you compared it to just 250 years ago, we’ve seen such a major spike in average global temperatures. Major US cities across 300 years have never seen this dramatic a rise in temps going back 20,000 years. In my home city, average annual temps have steadily increased since 1880 by 2 full degrees. That’s 2 degrees in less than 150 years dude. These warm weeks are not normal in the big picture of our climates history.

SuspiciousFishAll I know is my house is shaking and I am watching my fence get torn apart in real time here in CO.

CrunnchyPissFartI heard about that wind, that shit sounds insane

CrunnchyPissFartyou sound like Fox News, Look up rising average winter temps, hell even rising year round temps, tell me that shit aint fucked

its better to recognize fucked shit in its early stages before shit gets too fucky, ya know

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SuspiciousFishThis is the craziest footage so far. I think its a trailer but its getting straight rolled out in Peublo:

https://twitter.com/kvcreativetv/status/1471168020169035778

CrunnchyPissFart"fires are a natural part of ecosystem succession" .... like fuck no not when every year the fires get bigger and hotter lmao, they're only supposed to happen every few years or so

BiffbarfSo what are you going to do about it? Vote for elderly white men harder! They have the solutions. I can't fuckin stand climate crisis religious fanatics.

RyanWhitdogI’ve said this many times before but, I truly believe the United States true super power is its ability to foster and allow entrepreneurial talent and innovation via VC and private market funding. Global talent flocks to this and whether people love it or hate it, capitalism has allowed the US to become the super power it is through rapid innovation and inventions that have drastically improved our quality of life. You can disagree with this on an opinion basis but as a whole you’re just wrong. If we lose this, as sure as night follows day, we will lose our position as a global power. All this to say, I believe as money continues to funnel into climate change solutions, companies, start ups, etc. in both public and private markets, we will begin to see more focus on it and major breakthroughs allowing us to tackle it will begin to occur.


I’m not sure everyone fully understands and appreciates the power the US has in the companies it starts and how aggressively it relentlessly invests in start ups. SpaxeX is such an amazing example of this. It is the most amazing company that started from absolutely nothing. To now being able to land boosters on a 25 x 25 platform after being in space. Without them NASA wouldn’t even have boosters now. So don’t count on government, count on our innovation and ability to start companies as the way out of this.

graveldude i’m on your side about climate change but you sound flagrantly dumb. most of the west is a fire adapted ecosystem from thousands of years of cyclical burning. fires here are worsening due to warming and long term droughts caused by climate change, absolutely. fires are also fucked up big because of 100 years of fire suppression strategies all throughout the west, so forests that should have burned dozens of small fires in the last century are burning all down at once, huge and hot as fuck, and decimating the ecology as a consequence. long term forestry mismanagement is equally a factor as climate change.

this doesn’t even have to do with the original point of the thread smh why’d i take the bait

BiffbarfSo what are you going to do about it? Vote for elderly white men harder! They have the solutions. I can't fuckin stand climate crisis religious fanatics.

eheathTHIS is a sign of climate change, a marginal temperature change week to week is not @CowboySkibop

BiffbarfSo what are you going to do about it? Vote for elderly white men harder! They have the solutions. I can't fuckin stand climate crisis religious fanatics.

CrunnchyPissFartWell yah, climate change is not a black or white dualistic issue. There is no "one sign" of climate change, its a multifaceted issue that causes one thing somewhere, lets say a freak wind storm, then irregular weather patterns in another, to drought and fire in others, and so on

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CrunnchyPissFartHell no, I aint never heard of an elderly white man with a plan for climate change. If ur takin me for a Biden hard-on liberal you got it wrong

BiffbarfIt has nothing to do with just Biden. Climate crisis hysteria is really good for lining the pockets of the bureaucrats at GE and Siemens while selling anti-apocalypse rhetoric and not doing anything actually productive. You know wind farms are overwhelmingly subsidized by simple cycle turbines that pollute significantly MORE than combined cycle units? And when power companies are pressed, they set goals by 20XX with no basis of a plan besides 'innovation'.

Just don't be sold a solution that doesn't do anything. Make a solution or quit bitching, it's so old.

CrunnchyPissFartSorry if I'm un informed but how in the possible fuck can a wind turbine create emissions?

I def agree that there is a lot of false goal setting and Neo-lib bureaucratic bs around climate change, it doesn't fucking get anywhere, its all bark with no bite. we need to actually take on these energy companies and make them start building solar/wind/geothermal power plants

r00kieMostly the manufacturing of them. Fiberglass is a very dirty material.

eheathChange in temperature from day to day, week to week has basically no correlation to climate change. Long term changes and more extreme weather is a sign of climate change.

CrunnchyPissFartSorry if I'm un informed but how in the possible fuck can a wind turbine create emissions?

I def agree that there is a lot of false goal setting and Neo-lib bureaucratic bs around climate change, it doesn't fucking get anywhere, its all bark with no bite. we need to actually take on these energy companies and make them start building solar/wind/geothermal power plants

RyanWhitdogI’ve said this many times before but, I truly believe the United States true super power is its ability to foster and allow entrepreneurial talent and innovation via VC and private market funding. Global talent flocks to this and whether people love it or hate it, capitalism has allowed the US to become the super power it is through rapid innovation and inventions that have drastically improved our quality of life. You can disagree with this on an opinion basis but as a whole you’re just wrong. If we lose this, as sure as night follows day, we will lose our position as a global power. All this to say, I believe as money continues to funnel into climate change solutions, companies, start ups, etc. in both public and private markets, we will begin to see more focus on it and major breakthroughs allowing us to tackle it will begin to occur.


I’m not sure everyone fully understands and appreciates the power the US has in the companies it starts and how aggressively it relentlessly invests in start ups. SpaxeX is such an amazing example of this. It is the most amazing company that started from absolutely nothing. To now being able to land boosters on a 25 x 25 platform after being in space. Without them NASA wouldn’t even have boosters now. So don’t count on government, count on our innovation and ability to start companies as the way out of this.

BiffbarfIf the power grid relies on wind power and the wind doesn't blow, or demand is greater than wind turbines can provide, there are simple cycle natural gas turbines that fire up to provide energy to the grid. These turbines will turn off when the wind blows again or demand decreases but they are incredibly inefficient when they run. These simple cycle ng turbines are so inefficient that even when used just to subsidize wind turbines, their emissions and energy consumption is greater than that of standard combined natural gas systems.

Tldr: wind doesn't generate much energy per wind turbine, has to be subsidized with inefficient energy supply methods resulting in more emissions and fossil fuel use compared to standard fossil fuel energy supply systems.

FruitBootProliterally all we need to do is make a major transition to nuclear power.

the thing people don't realize is that climate change & pollution don't exist because of disposable straws, or cows, or companies that want to make their products cheaper. And society/govt demanding that consumers+businesses deny themselves these conveniences is futile. Climate change exists because our ENTIRE FUCKING INDUSTRY is built on energy that comes from combustion. Once we stop this, we've taken a huge step forward and can then tackle combustion in the sectors of transportation etc.

I'm sorry but the danger of a nuclear meltdown in somewhere remote is dwarfed by the coming repercussions of the insane amounts. Additionally, due to modern reactor safety technology, the actual danger of a nuclear meltdown nowadays is way smaller than it was in the era of Three Mile Island or even Fukushima.

PS: isn't spacex carried by a lot of govt subsidies and also works with nasa lol

CrunnchyPissFart"fires are a natural part of ecosystem succession" .... like fuck no not when every year the fires get bigger and hotter lmao, they're only supposed to happen every few years or so

GrandThingsLol the fuck? So what, we're just supposed to like give up and not talk about it?

armchair_skierFires naturally occur annually in some forests. Forests are too dense because of outdated conservation techniques and forests that used to not burn are starting to. Fires happen every year, but the frequency of really bad fires is increasing.

BiffbarfCome up with solutions. Guide the passion to engineering ideas that will change mankind, instead of focusing it on blaming some sort of boogeyman and crying about it.

RyanWhitdogI would agree this weather is fucked dude no question about it. 5 years is also plenty of time. Most temperature rises are measured by decade intervals, so that’s half your n right there. Week to week swings are certainly climate change related? Melting ice caps, rising temperatures, rising ocean temperatures, decreased snow pack, droughts all lead to more rapid changes in weather patterns across the globe (that includes day to day homie).

eheathChange in temperature from day to day, week to week has basically no correlation to climate change. Long term changes and more extreme weather is a sign of climate change.

CrunnchyPissFart"fires are a natural part of ecosystem succession" .... like fuck no not when every year the fires get bigger and hotter lmao, they're only supposed to happen every few years or so

LonelyI mean...It actually does. Warm days and irregular weather/temperature patterns are absolutely are part of climate change. It's part of the climate...changing? Is it definitionally climate? Sure it's not, but that finer grain is absolutely part of climate change. If you didn't have a large number of small changes then you wouldn't have climate change...at all.

eheathlike I said, we're on the same page brother, climate change is a HUGE problem and were doing basically nothing to combat it. But, one week being warmer than the previous is not "climate change"

eheathBut saying that it was 50 this week and 20 next week is not climate change, thats a normal thing that happens every year and has for centuries. These isolated anomalies may add up like you say, but saying that one point of data is proof of climate change is just incorrect.

FruitBootProliterally all we need to do is make a major transition to nuclear power.

the thing people don't realize is that climate change & pollution don't exist because of disposable straws, or cows, or companies that want to make their products cheaper. And society/govt demanding that consumers+businesses deny themselves these conveniences is futile. Climate change exists because our ENTIRE FUCKING INDUSTRY is built on energy that comes from combustion. Once we stop this, we've taken a huge step forward and can then tackle combustion in the sectors of transportation etc.

I'm sorry but the danger of a nuclear meltdown in somewhere remote is dwarfed by the coming repercussions of the insane amounts. Additionally, due to modern reactor safety technology, the actual danger of a nuclear meltdown nowadays is way smaller than it was in the era of Three Mile Island or even Fukushima.

PS: isn't spacex carried by a lot of govt subsidies and also works with nasa lol

eheathBut saying that it was 50 this week and 20 next week is not climate change, thats a normal thing that happens every year and has for centuries. These isolated anomalies may add up like you say, but saying that one point of data is proof of climate change is just incorrect.