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Mr_pretzelSo what’s the skinny on the new salomon ski that luke and jonathan talked about on gear 30? Is it that new ten-eighty playful looking ski?
Better be. Almost seemed like Solly was trying to phase out the free ski crowd. Don't know how many times I get customers mentioning they miss the rocker2 series
Ah, yes, I’ve seen these kicking around. I wonder if they’re just QST 106s with OG graphics that the factory/ team manager did for fun for the athletes. Or if it was an early proto...
hoping it’s the latter :)
skidemon22Ah, yes, I’ve seen these kicking around. I wonder if they’re just QST 106s with OG graphics that the factory/ team manager did for fun for the athletes. Or if it was an early proto...
hoping it’s the latter :)
thanks for posting
I think it might be a new model cah there is more tail rocker than the QST 106 and also it seems like this ski is more playful / buttery
LazylightningIt's not even that hard to make a new graphic (obviously it is difficult but for a company who employs artists it seems like it should be possible)
Let’s not forget everyone...it was/is a pandemic for the majority of the world. With large amounts of ski area closures across, in some cases, entire countries, I’m guessing this had a HUGE play in companies not making new graphics.
That is true, do companies normally have "drafts" or alternate graphics for skis?
bradwaltersLet’s not forget everyone...it was/is a pandemic for the majority of the world. With large amounts of ski area closures across, in some cases, entire countries, I’m guessing this had a HUGE play in companies not making new graphics.
Is part of the idea that if graphics are the same for 2 years whatever they don't sell in one season can simply be sold as new the next?
animatorA lot of brands are moving to adopt the “two year turnover” trying to keep skis and graphics the same for 2 years rather than 1 to be more sustainable
LazylightningThat is true, do companies normally have "drafts" or alternate graphics for skis?
This is true. At least for myself and the other artists who I work with at K2 anyway. We do make a great deal of drafts and have things on the backburner all the time. But, keep in mind that we work as an internal design team for K2 so it is our fulltime jobs to keep graphics going all the time.
In relation to the Volkl Revolts that are in the market now it may be a different situation. These graphics were done by an outside artist named Ben Brough and there was a great deal of marketing and effort put behind this from all angles. In addition, a lot of time when outside artists are used you don't have as many drafts to tap into because they are paid for their individual work that they are doing. You basically pay for what you get. I can say from my past personal freelance experience that you don't really just make as many as you can but instead you make only what you need to fill the need of the company. When you're done you send off the files and move onto whatever company wants to pay you next.
But....I dont think that this is juuuust a graphic thing and slapping a new topsheet on some skis. I think its Volkl being smart and respectful of the industry as a whole.
The major factor in all of this is being a team player and by that I mean keeping the industry healthy. Volkl is a huge player in the European ski world and Europe has been hit incredibly hard with this pandemic. Shit...many countries aren't even allowing skiing to even happen right now and this is the second year in a row! What this does is forces shops to close as well as the ski areas. Meaning skis aren't needed and skis just sit on the shelves. The last thing a ski company or any company would want to do is overwhelm their retailers with too much "new" inventory when they can't open their doors to sell what they already have. By carrying a line forward it gives support to those retailers who supported the brands and placed orders in the first place. By doing this the brand is standing with their retailers and showing that they are going to play the same game as them, with the same product and not just drown them in something that is new just for the sake of being new.
I really don't think that Volkl is going to be alone with carrying most their product forward and I'm guessing many of the larger brands will be doing the same.
It's been a rough year out there for a lot of the ski industry...Lets just hope we can weather the storm and get past all of this sooner than later!
Honestly, I really like the Völkl graphics from this year. I’d say it’s the first year I actually like their graphics. Now I’ve got 2 years to get some Revolt 104s before they go back to horrible graphics again
anders_aI dig them, looks decent at pics but very good in person, combined with new jester pro 18 .. just works.
only graphics I really hate this year is the rossi sender and other stuff and dynastar m-free , sad because good skis.
Really good perspective, it's cool to here insight like this from someone who knows the system. I think as a normal person I wasn't completely aware of what actually happens behind the scenes and was a little quick to jump to conclusions, I appreciate you taking the time to respond!
bradwaltersThis is true. At least for myself and the other artists who I work with at K2 anyway. We do make a great deal of drafts and have things on the backburner all the time. But, keep in mind that we work as an internal design team for K2 so it is our fulltime jobs to keep graphics going all the time.
In relation to the Volkl Revolts that are in the market now it may be a different situation. These graphics were done by an outside artist named Ben Brough and there was a great deal of marketing and effort put behind this from all angles. In addition, a lot of time when outside artists are used you don't have as many drafts to tap into because they are paid for their individual work that they are doing. You basically pay for what you get. I can say from my past personal freelance experience that you don't really just make as many as you can but instead you make only what you need to fill the need of the company. When you're done you send off the files and move onto whatever company wants to pay you next.
But....I dont think that this is juuuust a graphic thing and slapping a new topsheet on some skis. I think its Volkl being smart and respectful of the industry as a whole.
The major factor in all of this is being a team player and by that I mean keeping the industry healthy. Volkl is a huge player in the European ski world and Europe has been hit incredibly hard with this pandemic. Shit...many countries aren't even allowing skiing to even happen right now and this is the second year in a row! What this does is forces shops to close as well as the ski areas. Meaning skis aren't needed and skis just sit on the shelves. The last thing a ski company or any company would want to do is overwhelm their retailers with too much "new" inventory when they can't open their doors to sell what they already have. By carrying a line forward it gives support to those retailers who supported the brands and placed orders in the first place. By doing this the brand is standing with their retailers and showing that they are going to play the same game as them, with the same product and not just drown them in something that is new just for the sake of being new.
I really don't think that Volkl is going to be alone with carrying most their product forward and I'm guessing many of the larger brands will be doing the same.
It's been a rough year out there for a lot of the ski industry...Lets just hope we can weather the storm and get past all of this sooner than later!
Just a heads up that we will be dropping the new Sammy Carlson Ascendant boot in the next few weeks. We sold so many we had to bring the new one early so thank you to you guys buying or selling them.
tomPietrowskiJust a heads up that we will be dropping the new Sammy Carlson Ascendant boot in the next few weeks. We sold so many we had to bring the new one early so thank you to you guys buying or selling them.
tomPietrowskiJust a heads up that we will be dropping the new Sammy Carlson Ascendant boot in the next few weeks. We sold so many we had to bring the new one early so thank you to you guys buying or selling them.
what's this I hear about a special mindbender 130 boot colorway with a red/yellow fade?
DensecloudsEasytigers had a leak of the 21/22 Bentchetler 100's. Same style bases but an icy blue color instead of red/galaxy. I'd really like to see the 120's
I think I've seen the last three BC 120's on Mark's insta early haha.
Atomic has the longest running streak of amazing graphics on the Bentchetler 120s. Can't think of a year where the graphic was even mediocre. I would say Chris has a permanent job at Atomic just designing graphics when his ski career is over.
CatdickBojanglesAtomic has the longest running streak of amazing graphics on the Bentchetler 120s. Can't think of a year where the graphic was even mediocre. I would say Chris has a permanent job at Atomic just designing graphics when his ski career is over.
