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Mr_pretzelWhat happened to your lupos that they gave you the kryptons?
I don’t know about homie. But for me There’s nothing wrong with my lupos! My rep just sent them out to me so that way I can use them for regular resort ripping and then just save my lupos for walking. I run a kingpin on my daily skis so I’m hyped that I don’t have to pack out my lupos and can still ride all my favorite skis regardless of the binding.
SoggyOatmeal420Anyone got info in fauna skis? i’m interested in their new omni ski, it says it’s coming 2021, looking like a wider softer park shape than the alparka
@FaunaSkis was talking about it in another thread I’m sure they’ll share
Kbob94I don’t know about homie. But for me There’s nothing wrong with my lupos! My rep just sent them out to me so that way I can use them for regular resort ripping and then just save my lupos for walking. I run a kingpin on my daily skis so I’m hyped that I don’t have to pack out my lupos and can still ride all my favorite skis regardless of the binding.
How have you found rocking a kingpin in the resort? How does it do on hard stuff? Have you ridden it in the park?
animatorHow have you found rocking a kingpin in the resort? How does it do on hard stuff? Have you ridden it in the park?
I had a pair for a couple of seasons. They definitely drive better than your run of the mill pin binding, but the tech toe will kick you around a lot on hard stuff and in chop. Mine stayed in one piece over two seasons, but by all accounts I’ve seen if you’re really pushing them in bounds you’re just biding your time until something breaks.
kid-kapowDynastar 21/22 - as described earlier/above, sadly no new sizes for 108/118
Lange 21/22 - XT3 Pro Tour comes in three models - 130, 110, 100
Rossignol skis 2022 - key take away: no new BlackOps Gamer/Holyshred in-between sibling, still being prototyped apparently (as confirmed earlier in this thread) - late release?
direct link to the Korean shop that is posting all these.
Rossi will ony have Carry-Overs this years, cause Rona.
Jump in on the pre-production run for it. He said he’ll release it this year if he can get people to commit @FaunaSkis
SoggyOatmeal420Anyone got info in fauna skis? i’m interested in their new omni ski, it says it’s coming 2021, looking like a wider softer park shape than the alparka
SoggyOatmeal420Anyone got info in fauna skis? i’m interested in their new omni ski, it says it’s coming 2021, looking like a wider softer park shape than the alparka
CatdickBojangles@FaunaSkis was talking about it in another thread I’m sure they’ll share
BradFiAusNzCoCaJump in on the pre-production run for it. He said he’ll release it this year if he can get people to commit @FaunaSkis
The plan was to have the Omni out this year but with lockdowns, and the stopping of skiing in the majority of Europe, affecting sales and deals we were working on with some shops, it's thrown the production schedule. To get things moving on a short pre-production run we just need a few people to commit to pairs, and we'll try and get the whole run more on track.
Based on the quote from the factory I'd be looking for 600USD/500EUR/pair.
We've prototyped out the Omni a bunch and have settled on a construction, it'll be softer than our Alparkas, similar weight because of using a lighter/flexier core wood mix than the full ash core of the Alparka and were dropping the carbon bands, it was making them too stiff. They would be the same high quality we've come to know from our factory.
If we can get enough people on board soon we can get slotted into their production before spring. Drop me a message if you're keen or want more info.
animatorHow have you found rocking a kingpin in the resort? How does it do on hard stuff? Have you ridden it in the park?
I absolutely love mine for daily ripping bindings the new updated toe that they released this year is the best version of the kingpin yet!! It bits so hard and drives a soo so well. I usually run a jester or attack 16 and honestly in most cases so far I haven’t felt a single difference between the kingpin and the other bindings. Yes it not perfect but damn it’s honestly the best setup I’ve owned to date. haven’t ridden them in the park yet but I’m trying them out tomorrow night in the park so I’ll report back.
Greg_KBy the Description in the Faction Candide models for 2022(CT 1.0 and CT 2.0) it says carbon fibre weave in binding area, so they may have just swapped out the Titanal plate above the edges for a reinforcement carbon sheet. Would maybe save a bit of weight without effecting flex.
If you saw a side profile of them you could see if plate is still present.
Heard back from Faction and my guess was correct with the titanal plate above the edges in the binding area is being replaced with a carbon weave sheet. Should lower the weight SLIGHTLY and make it a hair more lively/less damp underfoot with no loss in durability according to Faction.
Kbob94I absolutely love mine for daily ripping bindings the new updated toe that they released this year is the best version of the kingpin yet!! It bits so hard and drives a soo so well. I usually run a jester or attack 16 and honestly in most cases so far I haven’t felt a single difference between the kingpin and the other bindings. Yes it not perfect but damn it’s honestly the best setup I’ve owned to date. haven’t ridden them in the park yet but I’m trying them out tomorrow night in the park so I’ll report back.
Not to throw this thread off topic, but I highly recommend people reading this do not buy tech bindings based on this, tech binding toes do not release laterally like an alpine toe, this is significantly more dangerous for spiral fractures of the tib/fib, although the horizon heel release is technically a little safer for knee injuries (like knee bindings).
obviously it works out fine for some people, just want to make sure random people reading this don’t think tech bindings are just as safe as alpine bindings.
and yes I do know that some fristchi bindings do release laterally, which does make them safer. They still aren’t designed to be ski’d on hardpack for any significant amount of time.
TheWeaz...obviously it works out fine for some people, just want to make sure random people reading this don’t think tech bindings are just as safe as alpine bindings...
This. I was regrettably taken in by Marker's claims in the early days of the Kingpin and bought a pair thinking this was exactly they case. Marker was all about telling you how the Kingpin was DIN certified (which I don't think claim anymore) to lead you to believe they were comparable to an alpine binding.
Don't get me wrong, the Kingpins are a great touring binding. They are certainly safer and release more reliably than your standard two-pin-heel touring binding, and there's no need to lock out your toes on the descent to prevent unwanted releases. I'd honestly probably rock them again if I built another dedicated touring setup over 105mm or 110mm underfoot, but lapping chairs in-bounds...no. Not worth the risk.
-emile-my 2015 shredditors 102 have a rotten core now so I need to get some new skis. I haven't paid attention to new gear in years.
any suggestions for a wider rockered all terrain ski similar to that one ? any help appreciated
From what I remember of those era shredditors they were pretty soft, but also heavy and damp, a super fun combo but a lot of the newer designs are way lighter and less damp, which is fine in good snow but tends to ski way worse in bad conditions.
new candide 2.0 might fit the bill, they made it heavier recently. Dynastar mfree 108 is playful and damp but a little wider, thats kinda it off the top of my head for heavier but still fun shape skis around 100 underfoot.
TheWeazNot to throw this thread off topic, but I highly recommend people reading this do not buy tech bindings based on this, tech binding toes do not release laterally like an alpine toe, this is significantly more dangerous for spiral fractures of the tib/fib, although the horizon heel release is technically a little safer for knee injuries (like knee bindings).
obviously it works out fine for some people, just want to make sure random people reading this don’t think tech bindings are just as safe as alpine bindings.
and yes I do know that some fristchi bindings do release laterally, which does make them safer. They still aren’t designed to be ski’d on hardpack for any significant amount of time.
Oh I couldn’t agree more!! I wasn’t posting it to say it’s the end all for all bindings. The safety definitely isn’t there like a normal binding. I was just saying it to share the power and performance what a pin tech binding can do.
TheWeazFrom what I remember of those era shredditors they were pretty soft, but also heavy and damp, a super fun combo but a lot of the newer designs are way lighter and less damp, which is fine in good snow but tends to ski way worse in bad conditions.
new candide 2.0 might fit the bill, they made it heavier recently. Dynastar mfree 108 is playful and damp but a little wider, thats kinda it off the top of my head for heavier but still fun shape skis around 100 underfoot.
yup they were pretty soft and that's part of why I loved them. I also liked that they were a bit heavier cause I did take them to the park quite a bit.
I hate changing skis cause I get so used to the feeling of those skis that I get decision anxiety when it comes to changing them cause I feel like it's gonna throw my whole game off.
Damp means stable. It absorbs the bumps. It doesn’t get kicked and thrown around everywhere in rough snow.
-emile-yup they were pretty soft and that's part of why I loved them. I also liked that they were a bit heavier cause I did take them to the park quite a bit.
I hate changing skis cause I get so used to the feeling of those skis that I get decision anxiety when it comes to changing them cause I feel like it's gonna throw my whole game off.
Think opposite of lively. Damp skis will have a very dead, "heavy", smooth feel. They will absorb and crush through the chowder snow. You won't get as much energy built up in the ski (not a good or bad thing, it depends on your skiing style / preferences / snow conditions).
I love damp skis, I hate skis that are snappy and energetic. I need to try the Dynastar M-Free 108.
I am not sure that the word I would use to describe M-Free108s is damp. Smooth - yes, in fact hell yes.
Damp, as in metal damp? Well..
ON3P type damp? Not quite either.
Splitting hairs? Well, of course.
But Dynastar has created something somewhat special with their construction imho. When you then join that with a shape/flex pattern that shouts looseness something special comes out at the other end.
So yeah, a smooth, forgiving yet rally/groomer/soft snow ready playsticks sums them up well. If the sizing agrees with you they are an easy recommend.
The only people who not get on with them imho is somebody who wants the feel of a super long effective edge traditional mount point charger.
kid-kapowI am not sure that the word I would use to describe M-Free108s is damp. Smooth - yes, in fact hell yes.
Damp, as in metal damp? Well..
ON3P type damp? Not quite either.
Splitting hairs? Well, of course.
But Dynastar has created something somewhat special with their construction imho. When you then join that with a shape/flex pattern that shouts looseness something special comes out at the other end.
So yeah, a smooth, forgiving yet rally/groomer/soft snow ready playsticks sums them up well. If the sizing agrees with you they are an easy recommend.
The only people who not get on with them imho is somebody who wants the feel of a super long effective edge traditional mount point charger.
I’m super surprised to read this because from my experience, I hated the MFree 108. I don’t know why, but I’m not a fan of damp skis to begin with. I do have a couple for days I’m just cruising and bruising, but they’re damp damp. Like hella damp. Most of the time, I like skis that are poppy and lively. The MFree to me, felt in between damp and poppy, and felt like it couldn’t do anything that well. Obviously as a one ski quiver to charge, play and whatever else, it could work for some people. For me, I don’t like when skis compromise on things, I just want them to be good at one thing. So with the MFree being a sort of jack of all trades, I didn’t vibe with it. BUT, with that being said, it is a good ski and it’s cool to see Dynastar putting more effort into freeskiing again. If you liked the Menace 98, the 108 is a great step up for sure.
Have tried pretty much every ski around that 105-110mm width range and agree with the statement on the MFree 108 is from @kid-kapow “If the sizing agrees with you they are an easy recommend” as sizing length options is a huge issue with that ski with many “between sizes”.
The 182cm version is super surfy and playful and an absolute blast in bumps/trees but not amazing through crud etc. The 192cm absolutely HAULS and is very stable at high speeds, rips groomers yet surfy with great float when in soft snow. Amazing playful charger and a more serious ski.
If Dynastar made a “goldilocks” length of 186-188cm with the blend of the characteristics of the 182/192cm, it would be an amazing ski and a standout in it’s width.
Own the 2021 Candide 2.0 and it’s far stiffer, heavier and more damp than the Shreditor 102 was but the new MFree 99 might be a nice replacement though. Looks like a lighter, more playful 108 which might be perfect! Reckoner 102 is even lighter but that is definitely worth a try too.
TheWeazNot to throw this thread off topic, but I highly recommend people reading this do not buy tech bindings based on this, tech binding toes do not release laterally like an alpine toe, this is significantly more dangerous for spiral fractures of the tib/fib, although the horizon heel release is technically a little safer for knee injuries (like knee bindings).
obviously it works out fine for some people, just want to make sure random people reading this don’t think tech bindings are just as safe as alpine bindings.
and yes I do know that some fristchi bindings do release laterally, which does make them safer. They still aren’t designed to be ski’d on hardpack for any significant amount of time.
What about shift bindings to every day use? are they safe for aggressive skiing? going to buy first touring bindings
cobra_commanderI disagree. The MF108 does everything well. It's quick and poppy when it needs to be and smooth and calm when it needs to be. Fucking magic sticks.
Yeah fair enough, like I said I personally don’t vibe with them but for lots of other people they’re a fantastic 1 ski quiver!
anders_ashift just isnt for every day use at resort.
I used mine all last season and didn’t have any issues but I’m well aware that there are skiers out there who ski a hell of a lot harder than me. If you want a true 50/50 option, go Duke PT. Shit is actually bombproof
MichaelSkierWhat about shift bindings to every day use? are they safe for aggressive skiing? going to buy first touring bindings
The shift is just as safe as an alpine binding in terms of release.
some people have durability issues with shifts and I’ve seen a lot of people who can’t stay in them, they are very sensitive to snow on your boot sole and forward pressure and afd height.
I personally don’t use them and wouldn’t use them because I like the other options better.
animatorI used mine all last season and didn’t have any issues but I’m well aware that there are skiers out there who ski a hell of a lot harder than me. If you want a true 50/50 option, go Duke PT. Shit is actually bombproof
I've talked to multiple sources selling shifts, and duke PTs, lets just say one has more returns than others.
It's also not just skiiing hard, but height/weight, at 6'3 and with gear probably 260-270lbs? at times, I can generate some umph..
anders_ashift just isnt for every day use at resort.
It's funny to hear so much back and forth on the shifts being a good/bad resort binding. I picked up the Atomic shift 13's and accompanied them with the backland 107's to be an all the time lightweight ski for tours and in bounds ripping. I've skied them 30 days or so. 50/50 touring/resort charging at this point. DINS are the same as my Armada JJ's I've used for a few seasons and I have yet to have a performance issue with them in any situation. I made sure I learned how to use the binding before going out on them and everything seems to go smoothly. For a 210Ib guy that's dropping smaller cliffs and charging through bumps, it's hard to believe that this bindings sucks for so many other small boi's out there.
djdiggidydaveIt's funny to hear so much back and forth on the shifts being a good/bad resort binding. I picked up the Atomic shift 13's and accompanied them with the backland 107's to be an all the time lightweight ski for tours and in bounds ripping. I've skied them 30 days or so. 50/50 touring/resort charging at this point. DINS are the same as my Armada JJ's I've used for a few seasons and I have yet to have a performance issue with them in any situation. I made sure I learned how to use the binding before going out on them and everything seems to go smoothly. For a 210Ib guy that's dropping smaller cliffs and charging through bumps, it's hard to believe that this bindings sucks for so many other small boi's out there.
its different issues, and I do like it for what it is, and when released pretty revolutionary, still is, I currently have shifts on my blister pro and BC120. used to have on BC100
the backland is a light ski, but let me ask this, would you mount shifts on a mantra 102 and hit 60mph on carve on them ? then again, do most people need that or do that? noop.
Would you hit the park and land stuff switch on them? probably noop either
Trouble is some people think its a fixall doall saveall, but it doesnt replace a quality alpine resort binding.
anders_aI've talked to multiple sources selling shifts, and duke PTs, lets just say one has more returns than others.
It's also not just skiiing hard, but height/weight, at 6'3 and with gear probably 260-270lbs? at times, I can generate some umph..
The Duke pt has been available for like a week though. This is the same thing people said about the kingpin, and then the kingpin with updated toe pins and then those were still shearing. Hopefully the concept will evolve into an excellent all around binding but I'm not ready to call the new dukes the winner yet.
mystery3The Duke pt has been available for like a week though. This is the same thing people said about the kingpin, and then the kingpin with updated toe pins and then those were still shearing. Hopefully the concept will evolve into an excellent all around binding but I'm not ready to call the new dukes the winner yet.
which is a smart, really, but when holding the kingpin next to a duke... you feel like they tried makeing it solid... maybe to solid :p
I have my kingpins on binding freedom now ;) but new toes are supposedly better.
anders_aits different issues, and I do like it for what it is, and when released pretty revolutionary, still is, I currently have shifts on my blister pro and BC120. used to have on BC100
the backland is a light ski, but let me ask this, would you mount shifts on a mantra 102 and hit 60mph on carve on them ? then again, do most people need that or do that? noop.
Would you hit the park and land stuff switch on them? probably noop either
Trouble is some people think its a fixall doall saveall, but it doesnt replace a quality alpine resort binding.
Killer rebuttal and all very valid points of concern. Would I mount them on any burly ski that is meant to charge and lay trenches out there? Nah! But I wouldn't be concerned if I had that setup and was looking to mob down some groomers. I trust the materials and performance based on what I've already done. With any freestyle oriented ski, I'd stay away from them. Landing switch or buttering would be a no go for me. The mounting space the bindings take up is fairly large which would stiffen up any ski which I'm not about. I don't believe they'd perform poorly but without knowing someone personally that's lapping the park on them, it's hard to say that they wouldn't perform well. Magnus seems to throw them on his skis which lead me to believe that they're pretty bomber.
They definitely don't check all the boxes of a resort binding like you're saying. Pivots have amazing elastic travel which I love for my park skis and with a tight mounting pattern, the skis can flex almost naturally. Another perk that dwarfs what the shifts could offer on a particular ski... The type of skiing I always ignore with these bindings would be the freestyle aspects. Why would I look to shave weight AND have a touring option on my freestyle ski? These bindings check all the boxes I wanted out of the setup they are on but would certainly not check all the inbound boxes like a dedicated resort binding would.
There's definitely a reason CAST is such a killer system tailoring to this community. Not a lot of extra weight for their freeriding skis when in bounds and honestly not that much weight on the uphill compared to the shifts when you're touring. It's a win/win for most of us on this forum to go CAST. Shifts just operate so smoothly for my desires. With the research I did and the desire to ride a directional ski in bounds and out of bounds, the choice seemed easy to me. But here's to hoping that anyone who gets a touring setup does their research and selects the binding that suits their desires in and out of bounds if they choose to use a setup for both sides of the rope.
