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Is the reason tyrolia attack2 bindings have such a shallow toepiece so that alpine touring boots fit normally in it?

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dolanslebensraum
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Ive been wondering why tyrolias new attack2 bindings have such a shallow toe overhang (picture 1) compared to the attack1, and it seems like its done so certain alpine touring boots (picture 2) that have a very short toe lip can still have the front of the toe lip reach the front wall (i dont know if theres a better name for it) of the bindings toepiece.

otherwise i dont know why tyrolia would have made a binding with such shallow overhang.





Mar 11 2020 2:21PM
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patagonialuke
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I'm not sure why they made it with the geometry it has, but I am sure it wasn't to work with boots like the Backland (pictured above) since those short-souled, ultralight touring boots aren't compatible with MNC bindings (Tyrolia AT, Salomon / Atomic Warden, Marker Sole ID) anyway.
Mar 11 2020 2:26PM
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dolanslebensraum
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patagonialukeI'm not sure why they made it with the geometry it has, but I am sure it wasn't to work with boots like the Backland (pictured above) since those short-souled, ultralight touring boots aren't compatible with MNC bindings (Tyrolia AT, Salomon / Atomic Warden, Marker Sole ID) anyway.


So the boots i posted a pic of dont have a long enough toe lip to work in attack2s?
Mar 11 2020 2:49PM
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FaunaSkis
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Might have something to do with the vertical release of the binding.

P.s. it’s called a toe lug.
Mar 11 2020 2:59PM
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dolanslebensraum
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FaunaSkisMight have something to do with the vertical release of the binding.

P.s. it’s called a toe lug.

Im pretty sure the toe isnt meant to release vertically. If it did that would be a horribly engineered way to go about it.
Mar 11 2020 5:51PM
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FaunaSkis
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DolanReloadedIm pretty sure the toe isnt meant to release vertically. If it did that would be a horribly engineered way to go about it.


the vertical release is in addtion to the lateral to release and is good for underotating backies and diagonal releases like when you're back seat and catch your inside edge, a kind of fall, which without the vertical release, is prime for tearing ligaments in your knee, because of the shearing force on your knee.
Mar 11 2020 6:21PM
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dolanslebensraum
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FaunaSkisthe vertical release is in addtion to the lateral to release and is good for underotating backies and diagonal releases like when you're back seat and catch your inside edge, a kind of fall, which without the vertical release, is prime for tearing ligaments in your knee, because of the shearing force on your knee.


I know about vertical release. It was my understanding that not all bindings have a toe that flexes vertically though, and looking at/flexing my attack2s it definitely seems like they dont flex vertically.
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