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mystery3What kind of weather are we talking about? Lightning?
OregonDeadBe courteous. Good chance groomers are working so keep your head up. Can’t really endorse opening up the park or features on your own but whatever you do leave everything the way you found it.
OCoffeyYou think they would be mad if they saw me?
casualPark crew won’t be stoked at all, I promise you that.
With touring/skinning/uphilling being really popular like it is, usually mountains have uphill access policies on their website. Sometimes it costs money, sometimes it’s free, lots of mountains have programs where you watch a video with rules and get a waiver and a pass to access uphill.
What you need to know though is that you have to obey mountain signage/closed terrain, etc. some people will say shit like “fuck that it’s forest service land! I can do what I want!!” And it’s not true. Ski areas enter contracts and lease agreements with the National Forest Service and they are able to restrict access within reason. You can be prosecuted for trespassing disregarding that stuff (not saying it’s super likely, especially in a first time “offense” scenario but I know for a fact Areas will call the police for repeat poachers/people in avalanche terrain or permanent closures etc. if the person refuses to cooperate.
The issue with hiking the park is this, especially in the summer: maintaining a good park in warm months is incredibly hard. It requires a lot of precision in terms of timing with regards to grooming, shoveling, raking, salting, etc.
I work patrol and I know one of the best ways to piss park crew and groomers off is to go into the park after hours when they’ve raked and stuff and start hitting features. It’s a constant issue and it causes a lot of frustration. It’s a small window when it’s soft enough to maintain features and have them prepared for the AM. Usually in spring like conditions, the mornings everything is crazy firm and even the corduroy from a groomer/tiller is setup like ice. So they fix everything in the afternoon and rely on the night temps to help it all setup.
If you go hit features that are fixed up and it’s still soft, you’ll leave gnarly ruts and bomb holes that can’t be fixed the next morning because it’s too firm. It makes the features shitty and will piss everyone off.
They also might be running groomers or possibly winch cats which are fucking deadly. Like cut you in half like a stick of butter deadly. Grooming can be tough, it’s tougher when you have someone getting behind you or popping up out of nowhere.
Usually parks close before mountains close and there’s signage and it’s common knowledge, so technically the park is closed after hours. In contrast, hood might have an uphill access policy that allows 24 hour uphill and downhill traffic, but it’s probably relegated to certain runs/pieces of terrain for safety and to keep people away from sleds and cats.
I can almost guarantee you that’s if you’re hiking the park at any time of the day when the mountain is closed for any reason, if a mountain employee (at least trail maintenance, patrol, or park crew) sees you they’re going to ask you to leave.
Check their website and look at their uphill policy. It’ll tell you the deal, but I know where I work, people poach the park after hours and the park crew gets so bummed/pissed which I back them on.
I would tel you not to do it personally. There’s plenty other shit to do on the rare days the mountain is closed. Of course if the issue is visibility, maybe no one will see you?
OCoffeySo on their website it says hike after 2pm for the park. Does anyone know how long you can hike for?