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Boot toe moving in Look Pivot WTR toepiece

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weastcoat
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My boot soles are worn, especially my toes. But I’ve had at least 6 or 7 people try my skis and their boots move in the toepiece too. The toepieces of the bindings look fine, nothing broken. But my boot toe will move back and forth a couple mm. If I’m standing still and put my ski on edge I can see and feel it moving. What should I do about this
Mar 25 2019 6:58PM
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Non_State_Actor
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weastcoastMy boot soles are worn, especially my toes. But I’ve had at least 6 or 7 people try my skis and their boots move in the toepiece too. The toepieces of the bindings look fine, nothing broken. But my boot toe will move back and forth a couple mm. If I’m standing still and put my ski on edge I can see and feel it moving. What should I do about this


Up and down movement? Side to side? Front to back...I hope not?
Mar 25 2019 7:01PM
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weastcoat
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mystery3Up and down movement? Side to side? Front to back...I hope not?


Side to side.
Mar 25 2019 7:06PM
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weastcoat
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It’s a mixture of side to side and up and down. If I move my boot the way the ski would get up on edge, it moves. But if I move my boot side to side, as when making a wedge or something, it doesn’t move.
Mar 25 2019 7:08PM
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BackWoods420
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I don’t really know how to fix yo problem, but weed helps with a lotta things so try gettin high
Mar 25 2019 9:39PM
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quagsire
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If you have a model with a height-adjustable AFD, is it possible that the AFD is either set to the wrong position or the adjustment mechanism is broken?
Mar 26 2019 1:00AM
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Chunderface
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I have the same problem in 2018 Pivot 14 WTRs. I made a thread and posted pics. The consensus is that this is just the wau they are designed and there isn't shit you can do about it. I also have some 2019 Pivot 14 gripwalks on another pair of skis and the problem is non-existent with the same boots. Its really lame.
Mar 26 2019 1:03AM
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Chunderface
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ethanshredzIf you have a model with a height-adjustable AFD, is it possible that the AFD is either set to the wrong position or the adjustment mechanism is broken?


In these bindings there is no AFD adjustment.
Mar 26 2019 1:05AM
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quagsire
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TubeBroIn these bindings there is no AFD adjustment.


The Pivot 'Dual WTR' models all feature a two-position AFD height adjustment, it's only the most recent 'GW' models that have a static AFD that accommodates both GripWalk and Alpine.
Mar 26 2019 1:10AM
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sambuswell
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Ghetto fix but you can try supergluing an old season pass or hotel key card to the afd on the part where it is flat. It won't last forever but it could get you through to the end of the season.
Mar 26 2019 7:43AM
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__charliewager__
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I had the same problem with my spx 12s. I fixed it by adjusting the forward presuure (move the heel piece forward a notch or two). This should fix it.
Mar 26 2019 2:13PM
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freeskibum82
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This is a forward pressure issue. make sure the white bar on the heel piece lines up with the two raised marks on the heel piece. if they dont you need to adjust the heel.
Mar 26 2019 2:20PM
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Chunderface
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ethanshredzThe Pivot 'Dual WTR' models all feature a two-position AFD height adjustment, it's only the most recent 'GW' models that have a static AFD that accommodates both GripWalk and Alpine.


Yeah, but what I mean is that if you're set on Alpine, and you have an Alpine sole in there, there is no way to adjust the afd.
Mar 26 2019 4:14PM
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Bdoobz
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This may be a trip to the local shop. They'll be able to have a look and solve the issue. Does sound like a forward pressure issue (as others have stated).
Mar 29 2019 11:28AM
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Chunderface
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freeskibum82This is a forward pressure issue. make sure the white bar on the heel piece lines up with the two raised marks on the heel piece. if they dont you need to adjust the heel.


A boot sole moving around in the toe piece is not a forward pressure issue.
Mar 29 2019 12:39PM
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jjdsteeze
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TubeBroA boot sole moving around in the toe piece is not a forward pressure issue.


how is it not? if the boot isn't pushed completely into the toe there would be movement.
Mar 29 2019 12:50PM
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Chunderface
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The boot is pushed forward and the forward pressure is where it should be and there IS STILL movement inside the toe piece. It is not fore-aft movement, it is movement up down and side to side. It is a defect of this particular version of the Pivot, and was remedied in the 18/19 AW version.

See here:

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/868673/Problem-with-17-18-Pivot-14-WTR
Mar 29 2019 12:57PM
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Dddsz
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It's because looks suck
Mar 29 2019 5:16PM
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Non_State_Actor
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QuaffIt's because looks suck


I was thinking the 70's tech just wasn't working with modern boot sole interface?
Mar 29 2019 5:26PM
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Dddsz
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mystery3I was thinking the 70's tech just wasn't working with modern boot sole interface?

I didn't have this problem with pivots but the goddamn things broke every other week
Mar 29 2019 8:33PM
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Chunderface
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QuaffI didn't have this problem with pivots but the goddamn things broke every other week


Pretty sure it is only on the 17/18 WTRs.
Mar 31 2019 10:35PM
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