Will I regret putting Pivot 18s on my pow skis?

QuicksandHave a chance to grab some 2 year old new FKS 180s for absolute dirt cheap.

I'm looking for bindings to put on new 191 K2 Catamarans (120 waist). I'm 6'3, 200 lbs, pretty aggressive skier, but I'm not hucking 50 foot cliffs and I know I don't need an 18 din binding, but the price is almost too good to pass up.

I've read that Pivots aren't the best choice for wider skis because of a narrower mounting point. Also I'd rather not have a binding as heavy as this needed but I doubt I would even notice it.

Should I just look at a lower din Attack or Sth?

yuhyuhcan confirm they're a pain in the ass if you crash in deep snow

otherwise you will not regret it

supersquidCan you elaborate on what you mean by narrower mounting point?

I dont see any reason you shouldnt pull the trigger on the p18's.

They hold their resale value, the plastics in them dont expire (because there isnt any), and you seem big enough to warrant an 18 Din Binding.

FKS/Pivots are arguably the best binding on the market and im sure your well within the 8-18 Din range

SofaKingSickSounds fuckin great dude do it haha. Who cares about weight on a lift-accessed pow/freeride ski? Sounds like a dope setup to me

QuicksandI was planning to throw my Daymakers on there for some short tours but I'll just consider the metal toe some free exercise.

SofaKingSickYeah so okay I mean that's a consideration then. I don't remember how much weight that adds and idk how long you plan to tour on them so that's your call but otherwise that's just a great binding. The mounting pattern width isn't an issue, like of course it's prob a good point that a modern binding benefits from a wider mounting pattern on today's skis, but I've never heard someone complain about the energy transmission of their pivots haha, they wouldn't have their great rep if they didn't perform so well

So what I'm saying is yeah if you might tour on them you should think about it, but as a downhill setup that's just a sick one

QuicksandThat's what I am thinking as well. Thank you for your input sir. Do you have any feedback about the weight of them downhill vs lighter bindings?

Rum_HamHeavier is better downhill. But you won’t notice much except when you’re in the air

QuicksandI actually don't know what I mean, when I was researching old threads about the Pivots on different sites I saw mentioned more than once that the screws were mounted closer than bindings like the Attacks or Sths and therefore had less power transfer into a wider ski. To me that sounds like it can't possibly be true or be a big enough margin to make a difference. Just what I had read and thought I'd mention it.

I rode K2 Pettitors (same length and waist) for about 4 years and I had an Axial 120 binding on that. I rode it at 11 and only had issues pre-releasing maybe 3-4 times over 150 days of riding it. Maybe my biggest concern about the Pivot is that I'm getting more than half a pound on each of my feet going to the 18. Will I really even notice that small amount of a weight under my boot, or am I concerned over nothing?

**This post was edited on Oct 22nd 2018 at 11:39:26am

CoaxArcHave you ridden the Catamaran? Not to hijack, but my 189 Pettitor 120's are possible my favorite ski ever, but I need to replace them. Wondering how similar the Catamaran is to the Pettitor. I think I read its supposed to be basically the same ski, but not sure.

QuicksandI was planning to throw my Daymakers on there for some short tours but I'll just consider the metal toe some free exercise.

NEPTRyou have daymakers... no need worrying about the weight difference between the plastic and metal binding. that being said the pivot 18 is the best binding ever made...

QuicksandI’ve read a few people say the pivot isn’t as good for wider skis cause of the width of the base (specifically the AFD) and thus less power transfer to the edges. Any truth to this?

IsitWinterYet17Doubt it. Idk the widths of pivots and other bindings off the top of my head but doubt it's anything significant and probably just conjecture.