Shooting at a Madden Tournament

Theres so much gore, porn anything you want on the internet that people become desensitized to seeing it online. As a result, and because things like this have been happening more often, people dont think about it as much. I can tell you from experience there's not much more terrifying than actually being close to something like this, but because people don't really comprehend the horror of it anymore these days, this kind of a story will be forgotten in a few weeks time. Pretty sad state of affairs.

:/

Apparently the dude lost and had a complete meltdown...

Notice the laser pointer on the black guy right before the gunshots go off

I’m ready for all the gun control shit that’s gonna pop up in the news, it’s not the guns fault, it’s the person. A gun is a tool, it is the persons mind that tells them to kill...

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DieselChevysI’m ready for all the gun control shit that’s gonna pop up in the news, it’s not the guns fault, it’s the person. A gun is a tool, it is the persons mind that tells them to kill...

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I'm all for not plastering the news all day long with this shit. Feel like it makes it worse. Just an opinion tho

BigPurpleSkiSuitTheres so much gore, porn anything you want on the internet that people become desensitized to seeing it online. As a result, and because things like this have been happening more often, people dont think about it as much. I can tell you from experience there's not much more terrifying than actually being close to something like this, but because people don't really comprehend the horror of it anymore these days, this kind of a story will be forgotten in a few weeks time. Pretty sad state of affairs.

People are definitely desensitized/less innocent to some extent. That said people have done some pretty fucked up shit before the internet. Also the news/internet in recent years allows you to hear about anything and everything that happens.

Idk, it's a crazy fucking world.

“98 percent of mass public shootings have occurred in places where guns are banned, just so you understand.”

Quote from Trump. So you know its true

DirtYStylE“98 percent of mass public shootings have occurred in places where guns are banned, just so you understand.”

Quote from Trump. So you know its true

The US is the only developed country where this regularly happens and yet you want more guns?

CLQThe US is the only developed country where this regularly happens and yet you want more guns?

no we just don't want less guns

CLQNotice the laser pointer on the black guy right before the gunshots go off

NPR stated he was one of the people who pass away.

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1826142891

skiermanNPR stated he was one of the people who pass away.

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1826142891

:/ Figured, the pointer was over his heart right before you hear the shots

BubbleBuddyno we just don't want less guns

Oh ok so you want more dead children? Got it

CLQOh ok so you want more dead children? Got it

#reasonablearguments

-eREKTion-#reasonablearguments

Americans are 20x more likely to be killed by gun violence then other developed countries. The US makes up 5% of the world population but holds 31% of all public mass shootings. No republican gives a shit about facts though

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CLQAmericans are 20x more likely to be killed by gun violence then other developed countries. The US makes up 5% of the world population but holds 31% of all public mass shootings. No republican gives a shit about facts though

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Nobody's denying facts, dude. There's just literally nothing we can do about it at this point. Americans own 40% of all the guns in the entire fucking world, that's 350+ million guns and over a trillion rounds of ammunition. How the fuck do we fix that?

At least we aren't England

CLQAmericans are 20x more likely to be killed by gun violence then other developed countries. The US makes up 5% of the world population but holds 31% of all public mass shootings. No republican gives a shit about facts though

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Work on fixing inner city gang violence. Unfortunately no one of importance gives a shit about it.

-eREKTion-Nobody's denying facts, dude. There's just literally nothing we can do about it at this point. Americans own 40% of all the guns in the entire fucking world, that's 350+ million guns and over a trillion rounds of ammunition. How the fuck do we fix that?

What’s a madden tournament

theLiquorWhat’s a madden tournament

Football video game tourney.

Kid shot up a place cuz he lost a virtual football game...sounds like a people problem to me.

The kid was known to be mentally unstable and had been hospitalized before. He was still able to legally purchase a gun.

DIRTYBUBBLEThe kid was known to be mentally unstable and had been hospitalized before. He was still able to legally purchase a gun.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO!!!! ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO ENACT ANY COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL LAWS TO KEEP A MENTALLY DISTURBED NERD FROM OBTAINING A FIREARM!!! HE'LL JUST BUY IT ON THE BLACK MARKET WHICH HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT!!!! AMERICA! 2ND AMENDMENT! PROTECT AGAINST OBAMAMA CAUSE HE GONNA STEAL MY GUNZ!!!!! NOTHING WE CAN DO, ITS NOT WORTH TRYING ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR SOLVING ALL MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMZ!! #GUNSAREPEOPLETOO

skiermanBUT THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO!!!! ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO ENACT ANY COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL LAWS TO KEEP A MENTALLY DISTURBED NERD FROM OBTAINING A FIREARM!!! HE'LL JUST BUY IT ON THE BLACK MARKET WHICH HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT!!!! AMERICA! 2ND AMENDMENT! PROTECT AGAINST OBAMAMA CAUSE HE GONNA STEAL MY GUNZ!!!!! NOTHING WE CAN DO, ITS NOT WORTH TRYING ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR SOLVING ALL MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMZ!! #GUNSAREPEOPLETOO

Common Sense Gun Control, everyone reeee's about it but nobody ever explains what the fuck common sense gun control means or how it'd stop mass shootings. Also, if you own guns you literally support killing babies.

-eREKTion-Common Sense Gun Control, everyone reeee's about it but nobody ever explains what the fuck common sense gun control means or how it'd stop mass shootings. Also, if you own guns you literally support killing babies.

Wow I had no idea that 80% of people in the world support killing babies. News to me.

Let's incorporate new gun control laws to remind our government of the fact that they need to enforce the current laws. After all, our safety and happiness is their top priority.

I own guns and I support saving babies.

IsitWinterYet17I own guns and I support saving babies.

I think that I should have clarified that I was being sarcastic, I'm a gun owner who tries to avoid killing babies.

CLQOh ok so you want more dead children? Got it

god you just can't fix stupid can you? since when does owning guns equate to wanting children dead? i don't even own guns so don't try to base me off of some stereotype i already know you have in your head. it's not that simple, in a country like ours you can't just take all the guns away and see less murders, use chicago as a prime example. but republicans don't give a shit about facts i guess. take your head out of your ass before you try to talk

CLQOh ok so you want more dead children? Got it

What guns should we ban?

How should we ban them?

How does owning a gun equate to dead children?

How do you prevent private sales?

How would you stop the illegal gun market from skyrocketing if guns were banned?

This thread turned political quickly

-eREKTion-Common Sense Gun Control, everyone reeee's about it but nobody ever explains what the fuck common sense gun control means or how it'd stop mass shootings. Also, if you own guns you literally support killing babies.

Its good to know that you're too fucking lazy and stupid to Google how pathetic our gun control laws are.

40% of all gun purchases in the U.S. are done privately and yet only a handful of states have any sort of regulation in place for private gun sales. This comes out to 22% of all gun sales in the U.S. are done without any sort of background check.

Hear of Columbine? Yeah those psychos purchased their guns ONLINE WITHOUT A BACKGROUND CHECK.

There's no Federal law in place for a minimum age to purchase a firearm.

There's no Federal law prohibiting how many firearms/ammunition a single person can own. You can purchase a firearm from one gun shop and in 24 hours you can purchase from another shop AND NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW.

There's no electronic database of gun ownership. Thanks to the NRA, records are on PAPER AND FUCKING MICROFILM ONLY.

There's no federal law mandating states to report medical history for background checks.

There's no federal law mandating gun owners to report a stolen/missing firearm. ONLY 11 STATES HAVE LAWS ENFORCING THIS.

You know of all that gang and cartel violence in central/south America? Its estimated 200,000 guns a year are smuggled across the southern border because guess why? WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAWS ACTIVELY PREVENTING STRAW MAN PURCHASES.



But yeah, let's hear the fallacies idiotic gun fuckers like you come up with like how criminals will break the law therefor there's no reason to make any new laws or how Hitler said something he never said about disarming a nation's people therefor no guns = Nazis.

The solution is to legalize ranch

Replies are in parentheses because I guess this is a politics thread now. Yes it's politics.

Its good to know that you're too fucking lazy and stupid to Google how pathetic our gun control laws are. (it appears you're too fucking stupid to even Google correctly)

Hear of Columbine? Yeah those psychos purchased their guns ONLINE WITHOUT A BACKGROUND CHECK. (you can't buy online places like gunbroker without going through an FFL dealer after the purchase anymore.)

There's no Federal law in place for a minimum age to purchase a firearm. (There is and it's 21 for handguns and 18 for long guns. No minimum age for transferring guns privately.)

There's no Federal law prohibiting how many firearms/ammunition a single person can own. You can purchase a firearm from one gun shop and in 24 hours you can purchase from another shop AND NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW. (Who really cares about the number? It only takes one gun of any style. If you have 30 guns and 50,000 round of ammo, versus 1 gun and 100 rounds of ammo, it makes no difference for tragedy sake. Just an FYI however, 1000 rounds isn't that much for personal use but it's more than anyone would be able to use in a mass causality event. Smaller magazines are irrelevant because it takes 2 seconds to change a mag. I heard California has some magazine pin release thing tho- fuck that noise.)

There's no federal law mandating states to report medical history for background checks. (It's required by law to report judge required mental health stays, but not private medical records. Sure let's just report everyone who's taken an antidepressant or had any history of non-relevant mental health issues and let non-medical personnel determine their fate. This is 25% of Americans, many of whom would never go cookoo for cocoa puffs. It would be more discriminating than the no fly list. Perhaps we should get better as a government at helping those with mental health issues as our access to care is atrocious).

There's no federal law mandating gun owners to report a stolen/missing firearm. ONLY 11 STATES HAVE LAWS ENFORCING This. (Who doesn't report their guns missing if they do? Like hello wtf lol ummm yeah. If not for insurance money at the least.)

You know of all that gang and cartel violence in central/south America? Its estimated 200,000 guns a year are smuggled across the southern border because guess why? WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAWS ACTIVELY PREVENTING STRAW MAN PURCHASES. (Then let's fix the influx of smuggled guns. Laws don't stop criminals from buying them bro. Chicago and NYC and LA and Oakland are prime examples. Also all the illegal MS13 folks; you think they bought their guns at auction or from a dealer? Lol no. Some guy named Bob drove them across the border and then called Enrique who then called Maria who then called Omar to tell Carlos that they will meet under the bridge by 4th street at 3am and do the swap. Get a grip skierman)



But yeah, let's hear the fallacies idiotic gun fuckers like you come up with like how criminals will break the law therefor there's no reason to make any new laws or how Hitler said something he never said about disarming a nation's people therefor no guns = Nazis. (Nope. There's some laws that need enacted, but we also need better access to Healthcare for mental illness. Homies will always be homies so unless the cops can start knocking heads nothing will change. The thing we can do is try to stop the crazies.)

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IsitWinterYet17Replies are in parentheses because I guess this is a politics thread now. Yes it's politics.

Its good to know that you're too fucking lazy and stupid to Google how pathetic our gun control laws are. (it appears you're too fucking stupid to even Google correctly)

Hear of Columbine? Yeah those psychos purchased their guns ONLINE WITHOUT A BACKGROUND CHECK. (you can't buy online places like gunbroker without going through an FFL dealer after the purchase anymore.)

There's no Federal law in place for a minimum age to purchase a firearm. (There is and it's 21 for handguns and 18 for long guns. No minimum age for transferring guns privately.)

There's no Federal law prohibiting how many firearms/ammunition a single person can own. You can purchase a firearm from one gun shop and in 24 hours you can purchase from another shop AND NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW. (Who really cares about the number? It only takes one gun of any style. If you have 30 guns and 50,000 round of ammo, versus 1 gun and 100 rounds of ammo, it makes no difference for tragedy sake. Just an FYI however, 1000 rounds isn't that much for personal use but it's more than anyone would be able to use in a mass causality event. Smaller magazines are irrelevant because it takes 2 seconds to change a mag. I heard California has some magazine pin release thing tho- fuck that noise.)

There's no federal law mandating states to report medical history for background checks. (It's required by law to report judge required mental health stays, but not private medical records. Sure let's just report everyone who's taken an antidepressant or had any history of non-relevant mental health issues and let non-medical personnel determine their fate. This is 25% of Americans, many of whom would never go cookoo for cocoa puffs. It would be more discriminating than the no fly list. Perhaps we should get better as a government at helping those with mental health issues as our access to care is atrocious).

There's no federal law mandating gun owners to report a stolen/missing firearm. ONLY 11 STATES HAVE LAWS ENFORCING This. (Who doesn't report their guns missing if they do? Like hello wtf lol ummm yeah. If not for insurance money at the least.)

You know of all that gang and cartel violence in central/south America? Its estimated 200,000 guns a year are smuggled across the southern border because guess why? WE HAVE NO FUCKING LAWS ACTIVELY PREVENTING STRAW MAN PURCHASES. (Then let's fix the influx of smuggled guns. Laws don't stop criminals from buying them bro. Chicago and NYC and LA and Oakland are prime examples. Also all the illegal MS13 folks; you think they bought their guns at auction or from a dealer? Lol no. Some guy named Bob drove them across the border and then called Enrique who then called Maria who then called Omar to tell Carlos that they will meet under the bridge by 4th street at 3am and do the swap. Get a grip skierman)



But yeah, let's hear the fallacies idiotic gun fuckers like you come up with like how criminals will break the law therefor there's no reason to make any new laws or how Hitler said something he never said about disarming a nation's people therefor no guns = Nazis. (Nope. There's some laws that need enacted, but we also need better access to Healthcare for mental illness. Homies will always be homies so unless the cops can start knocking heads nothing will change. The thing we can do is try to stop the crazies.)

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If you seriously think someone would kill the same amount of people with 10 round magazines then 30 round magazines then you're retarded. The most damaging mass shootings used multiple guns. The mental health argument is the dumbest fucking argument I have ever heard. Normal people with no signs of mental health issues can and do snap. No amount of mental health care can account for that. Even if you for some reason actually believed it was a mental health issue, i'm willing to bet you're against repealing the ACA and are vehemently against single-payer.

Do you think America is the only country with gangs? Do you think we are the only country with poverty and a drug problem? Yet I rarely see a mass shooting in these other developed countries because guess what, black market guns are expensive and gangs don't want to sell a gun to some fucking incel.

-eREKTion-tries to avoid killing babies.

Are you saying you've been unsuccessful at times lol?

-eREKTion-Nobody's denying facts, dude. There's just literally nothing we can do about it at this point. Americans own 40% of all the guns in the entire fucking world, that's 350+ million guns and over a trillion rounds of ammunition. How the fuck do we fix that?

Damn I guess its just not worth the effort to save lives. Be sure to tell that to the kids at Sandy hook and Parkland. "Sorry kids, its just really not worth the effort to try to save you guys. Hell we aren't even going to try anything and repeatably block any form of gun control. You will be in our thoughts and prayers."

CLQDamn I guess its just not worth the effort to save lives. Be sure to tell that to the kids at Sandy hook and Parkland. "Sorry kids, its just really not worth the effort to try to save you guys. Hell we aren't even going to try anything and repeatably block any form of gun control. You will be in our thoughts and prayers."

What guns should we ban?

How should we ban them?

How does owning a gun equate to dead children?

How do you prevent private sales?

How would you stop the illegal gun market from skyrocketing if guns were banned?

LonelyWhat guns should we ban?

How should we ban them?

How does owning a gun equate to dead children?

How do you prevent private sales?

How would you stop the illegal gun market from skyrocketing if guns were banned?

1. Every rifle besides bolt action, high cap magazines at the very least.

2. Like how we ban everything else? Buy back program?

3. Being actively against any form of gun laws would make you in some form complicit IMO.

4. People who use the blackmarket to buy guns are going to use it for illegal activities anyway. Its also not like the blackmarket is some website that you can easily order guns to your house. It would make it hard for some 17 year old kid to acquire and hard for some crusty old white man to obtain. Who are they going to ask? The black man on the corner?

CLQ1. Every rifle besides bolt action, high cap magazines at the very least.

2. Like how we ban everything else? Buy back program?

3. Being actively against any form of gun laws would make you in some form complicit IMO.

4. People who use the blackmarket to buy guns are going to use it for illegal activities anyway. Its also not like the blackmarket is some website that you can easily order guns to your house. It would make it hard for some 17 year old kid to acquire and hard for some crusty old white man to obtain. Who are they going to ask? The black man on the corner?

Where will we find the money to buy back an estimated 250 million guns?

Would you agree with me if I said it would be better for the government to legalize marijuana and regulate than have it sold illegally- in an illegal market that has violence, dangerous synthetics and a myriad of other issues?

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The only issue is the 2nd amendment. The right to bear arms was meant to give the people a fighting chance against a tyrannical government, and it's done just that. Theres no way in hell the American populace could be subdued with the amount of people with guns out there.

BigPurpleSkiSuitThe only issue is the 2nd amendment. The right to bear arms was meant to give the people a fighting chance against a tyrannical government, and it's done just that. Theres no way in hell the American populace could be subdued with the amount of people with guns out there.

As a gun owner, I hate the argument that we need guns to protect ourselves from the government. There is nothing I or anybody else could do if the military sided with a tyrannical dictator.

The best way to prevent a tyrannical government is to actually pokemon go to the poles.

CLQ1. Every rifle besides bolt action, high cap magazines at the very least.

2. Like how we ban everything else? Buy back program?

3. Being actively against any form of gun laws would make you in some form complicit IMO.

4. People who use the blackmarket to buy guns are going to use it for illegal activities anyway. Its also not like the blackmarket is some website that you can easily order guns to your house. It would make it hard for some 17 year old kid to acquire and hard for some crusty old white man to obtain. Who are they going to ask? The black man on the corner?

Also a few things I'd like to add-Any talk about banning all non bolt action firearms will start a knee jerk reaction resulting in an increased purchase of firearms.

If a buy back were to happen the price to buy back guns would have to be a good deal higher than what they actually are worth, making it even less of a viable option

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Thats a big if. Heres a post from 4chan so odds are it's a complete LARP but true or not it does raise very interesting points about potential civil war scenarios

Edit: I cant get it to post the image with proper resolution so here's the link
https://i.imgur.com/MjVfFEj.png

LonelyAs a gun owner, I hate the argument that we need guns to protect ourselves from the government. There is nothing I or anybody else could do if the military sided with a tyrannical dictator.

The best way to prevent a tyrannical government is to actually pokemon go to the poles.

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LonelyWhere will we find the money to buy back an estimated 250 million guns?

Would you agree with me if I said it would be better for the government to legalize marijuana and regulate than have it sold illegally- in an illegal market that has violence, dangerous synthetics and a myriad of other issues?

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Yeah I agree with you but its not like marijuana is killing innocent people. The violence in the drug world is mainly between other gangs and some users. Drugs aren't killing 26 elementary students in a class room, drugs aren't killing 58 people at a concert. I'm all for legalizing drugs because it would make it safer for the user. We should be making it harder for people to own something that was designed to kill others.

Do you genuinely think that Adam Lanza or the parkland shooter could get a gun on the blackmarket?

How about we use some of our military budget 580 billion currently, with trump proposing to raise it to 680 billion? Honestly, i don't claim to know all the answers and believe it or not, I don't want gun ownership to go away completely. I do know that banning rifles and making it harder to get a gun, will decrease the number of mass shootings or at the very least, the severity of them.

BigPurpleSkiSuitThats a big if. Heres a post from 4chan so odds are it's a complete LARP but true or not it does raise very interesting points about potential civil war scenarios

Edit: I cant get it to post the image with enough resolution so here's the link to a reddit thread with it
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/4r5b0e/the_red_team_planner_4chan_posts_referenced_in/?source=images

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Imo it's a lose lose situation. Idk if there would be any way to put down a civilian revolution with destroying a lot of infastructure.

CLQ1.
4. People who use the blackmarket to buy guns are going to use it for illegal activities anyway. Its also not like the blackmarket is some website that you can easily order guns to your house. It would make it hard for some 17 year old kid to acquire and hard for some crusty old white man to obtain. Who are they going to ask? The black man on the corner?

I mean..... Silk road was a website for a while. But yeah I know what you're saying.

Anyway ever realize that most gun violence is by homies who bought illegally? So you basically just contradicted your point that a buy back will do anything. Sure it may prevent mass shootings by psychos but it won't do shit for the gang violence in America which is responsible for most gun deaths.