U.S.A Gun Laws?

CaseyWell after 9/11 we passed an emergency measure commonly known as 'the Patriot Act' that nullified various protections afforded in the bill of rights. Right to due process, right against unreasonable searches, right against cruel and usual punishment the duty of congress to declare war, etc. all went out the window.

To your specific question about bail, it's a little bit unfair to hold up the Constitution as written and say, 'well what about this' - there has been 200 years of interpretation by the supreme court that goes into how things work. It doesn't mean it's right, but it's likely been litigated.

QUIT USING COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC! THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE ALL-KNOWING BEINGS AND COULD PREDICT EVERY SITUATION THAT COULD HAPPEN 200 YEARS FROM NOW! ITS NOT LIKE THEY COULD MAKE A MISTAKE RESULTING IN AMENDMENTS OR ANYTHING!!! OH WAIT WHAT THE FUCK

This is odd.... where are all the hippies? There are like a dozen gun owners in this thread, times are a changin'!

mulchbrainI would definitely agree that criminals would still have guns for a while at least. But could it not be argued that in time guns will be harder and harder to acquire meaning less people having guns and then less gun violence.

I do see your point with your mother. But could laws be changed on what types of guns are allowed and who can own a gun?

And in regard to a national consensus . Would a vote work? I guess something has to be drafted to vote on and that's the issue??

In terms of laws for what kinds of guns are allowed there are a lot of factors that go into it such as subsistence use, custom weapons, and gun type and caliber.

**This post was edited on Mar 14th 2018 at 5:23:35pm

AlaskanforlifeIn terms of laws for what kinds of guns are allowed there are a lot of factors that go into it. A very common and dangerous type of gun are handguns and semi automatic pistols which have all kinds of designs and calibers. Same with the rifle, which range from a .22 hunting rifle to assault rifles (including the ar-15 which has been made infamous for unfortunate events) and all the way up to 50 cal sniper rifles. So to limit what guns are sold you would have to consider quite a few different things such as custom weapons, indigenous peoples (such as the Alaska Natives from where i live) who hunt for subsistence purposes, and what is an acceptable and effective design and caliber for self defense. Just thought I’d put that out there

Interesting first post on this site. How did you find this place? Much of what you just said is either incorrect or has already been posted. There are calibers smaller than .22. There are also calibers significantly larger than .50. ARs are NOT assault rifles. Please stop perpetuating that media-crazed lie.

Also, you posted that handguns and semi-automatic pistols (which is as stupid as saying ATM Machine) are dangerous. Any firearm in the hands of someone with ill-intent is dangerous. No firearm is dangerous in its own right. It's the individual, not the firearm. My handguns have as little chance of being "dangerous" as my shotguns. In fact, my shotguns have killed far, far more things than my handguns. There are a heck of a lot of ducks, geese, and turkeys out there that would make the argument that my shotguns are far more dangerous.

this thread went to shit after 1 page.

There would always be criminals who obtain guns illegally. Do we really want the law-abiding citizens to be the ones with a disadvantage?

Anyways as far as the whole theory to stop mass shootings: would making certain weapons illegal really help that much? Now I do think it would only be beneficial to create more strict processes towards obtaining guns (tests, record checks, etc.), but like I said before preventing them completely would be impossible. If someone is crazy enough and determined enough to commit these acts then they would undoubtedly find a way to obtain a gun. These people basically devote their lives to these acts; do you really think they would say change their minds because they can't walk into a store to pickup a gun?