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Ryan Halverson POV from this years movie-- White Wedding
All shot around teton village except the snowmobile shot and the next one of J Strong in the wind river range
BenWhitI never said you can't be 30+ and ski park. I said that you cannot say that "sure, you can ski park because so and so professional skier is now in his 30s and still skis park." Yeah, skiers aren't the pinnacle of physical fitness, but if you do something at a high level for a decade or two you have created physiological adaptations in your body that someone just starting out in the same discipline hasn't. That's not rocket science. That also doesn't mean that you can't learn to slide a rail at 30+, 40+ years old. But since you haven't been doing that for very long, the likelihood of you getting injured increases more so than it would if you were in your late teens, early twenties.
Since you asked, I'm 25. I still ski in the park but not with much frequency. With work and just general life expenses I can get in 15-20 days a year and half of those are spent out west trying to ski bigger, badder terrain than I can find on the easy. For you, it's a mindset and lifestyle, but you also readily admitted that you have been doing it for a long time at a level higher than most. You've learned to crash. You've built resilience through repetitions. Those are my only points, not that you need to be a highly trained athlete in the gym to ski in the park. You absolutely do not.
TheHamburglarA torn ACL when you're 18 is less of a serious life issue than when you're 28 and earning your living.
NSdiedWOdlnLike honestly just say you dont have the balls to send a rotation. Dont pretend like you have the coordination and natural strength, when you dont.
IsitWinterYet17Newsflash, it hurts just as bad to fall on a rail or hard snow at age 15 as it does at 25.
BrawnTrendsRecovery time isn't the same at 15 and at 35/40. And when I was younger I didn't really care if I was breaking something, because all I had to worry about was school. Now if I break my leg or my arm, I risk not being able to drive to work anymore. And I have bills to pay. It's the same for a lot of us "adults".
Also, I'm definitely more of a pussy now. I won't deny it.
altasupportI don't think ive ever heard an older dude who skis only big mountain claim to be able to ski park. They just don't want to, so they don't care about park rat skills and aren't that impressed. It's like me watching ski ballet. Could I do it well? Fuck no. Do i want to? Not really. Do i enjoy and glorify their talent? Not really. If anything I hear more dumbass east coast park rats think that because they can sort of ski 30 degree moguls and hit jumps that they could step up to free ride world tour lines.
OP this thread reeks of you wanting approval from people older than you, it's kinda sad.
SessionOP.....every thread you make.....dogshit.
skiermanSomething tells me you suck at skiing.
BenWhiti don't know, man. this is a massive over-generalization.
avalanche terrain is a different thrill. you are entering terrain that can kill you in the blink of an eye. you are left to your own devices; skills, knowledge, decision making, etc. it makes those turns all the more exhilarating knowing that you planned & executed your bc trip to perfection... and you're alive when you get to the bottom.
that is hardly different from park-skiing. the methods are different but the end result is the same, hopefully.
NSdiedWOdlnWow dude, you seem pretty extreme. I wish i were as badass as you, risking my life and shit...
search4freshiesI'm a freeskier approaching 30, w/ 100+ days a season for the past 4 years. More than half of that is in the SC/BC, and I'd say less than 15% total of my riding is in the park nowadays. I thought it was because my preferences changed as I grew up, from park to pow, but now I see that its because I lack coordination and natural strength. Thanks Dr. Phil, I mean... OP.
When I started freeskiing it meant zipperlines through bumps w/ fatty mute grabs. Then (IMO) the golden era of freeskiing came about (early 2000's) as I hit my teen years and started competing in Slopestyle events. These are the "good old NS times" you keep bitching about bringing back, but have never actually experienced. Growing up in PA met competing with the likes of Sean Jordan and Tom Wallisch, and a handful of lesser known (but equally as good at the time) Pennsyltucky local boys. In fact, I'd say I've been hitting jumps, spinning onto rails, and acquiring afterbang points since OP was shitting green in his diaper.
I may not spend the majority of my time in the parks anymore, but I do enjoy occasionally taking park laps with the new-newschoolers, even more so when its early season. My slopestyle progression, especially on rails, has been pretty static for the last 7 years or so, but I still have no problem spinning 2 on, blind 2 off, sw/ unnatural slides, etc. Ya know, the foundational tricks I'm sure OP still has yet to master w/ style.
However, my progression in the BC has increased exponentially every year since I started venturing off the beaten path. I'm sending (and spinning) bigger jumps (into orgasmic pow landings), jibbing natty features like tree taps and fun little hips, and when I do head back into a perfectly built park, it feels like I'm even more dialed after hitting less-than-perfect BC shit. Not to mention my progression in a sense that just getting out to some of these zones, and staying safe, requires a very specific skill set/knowledge.
Over the summer I spent a weekend manicuring a run-in, building a take off, and clearing a landing for a ≈40' stepdown in the San Juan BC. I haven't hit it yet, but my plan is to throw down a classy backie. It's supposed to be members only but if OP wants to come out and hit it with me first day its good to go, he's more than welcome?! I bet he will really have that "disgusting" feeling deep down inside once he walks up to the lip and scopes the landing. The jury is still out on whether or not he will "grow the balls to send the rotation" after seeing what its really like out there.
KravtZPark skiing has zero relationship to real skiing. Yes many park riders canrip outside of it...at the same time so many kids who talk shit SUCK at actual skiing. Until you can master a proper technique race turn I don't consider someone really a "good skier". You can be a good aerialist but in terms of skiing its just bs.
NSdiedWOdlnDoing a switch 7 then learning how to do a race turn/ carve is like solving a differential equation then adding 2-+2. Carving without scrubbing any speed is a joke, coordination wise.
BenWhitdid you read what I wrote, numbnuts?
I effectively said that BC & park-skiing are different means to the same end; skiing down the hill, having fun, and staying alive.
NSdiedWOdlnWow. Im really flattered that youre even responding to my post. I mean you are like a varsity backcountry skier, and im like a loser park rat wannabe who can barely do a 360. Youre like a tier 1 badass. I should honestly be begging you to mail me your autograph.
3maniaI never hit a box/rail until I was in my 50's, now i hit those MFers everyday. Sack up bitches.
JohnJonszWe are in a developing era of mediocre riders going on bc adventures thinking that's the pinnacle of the ski experience when they are just joeys in nice gear skiing mostly mellow terrain.
I do think its funny when my ski buds get down from riding rad big mtn terrain dropping cliffs and whatever, but then they get back inbounds and go around the park at the bottom like it scares them.