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Din setting?

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steezyclezy
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I bought some new fks 140s and am 165lb, 6'0". This is a very common binding so what would be a good setting. I have them on ten and they haven't released yet and I'm not sure if they ever will but haven't had a major crash. I guess they would feel different after z10s though.

And before anyone says go to a ski shop, I tried that and they have to set it to fis specifications which is like 7 so that's no help at all.
Jan 17 2015 12:33PM
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egg.
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http://www.mechanicsofsport.com/skiing/equipment/bindings/din-calculator.html
Jan 17 2015 12:40PM
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Matt_
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Go to a ski shop it is pretty obvious that you don't know what you are talking about the fis has nothing to do with din setting it is the regulatory body of snowsports competition.Also setting the din isn't as easy as easy a just turning a screwdriver you also need to adjust forward pressure.You can go to a shop and ask them to set your bindings attached whatever and they will just make you sign a waiver saying you don't hold them liable.
Jan 17 2015 12:41PM
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AmateurPilgrim
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Jan 17 2015 6:48PM
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urbanskico
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"Go to a ski shop..."

I agree here. I can't tell you how many skiers and athletes included have fallen prey to bad tuning. Any local ski shop should work with you and if they don't find another one. If you are a customer they may just do it for free or at worst case a nominal fee. My 2 cents.
Jan 17 2015 7:13PM
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Casey
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What makes you think 7 is no good? You're a twig a 165 and probably a type 2, that is probably what they should be if that's what the shop says.
Jan 17 2015 7:38PM
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colder152000
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if you like your knees go to a shop and have them properly mounted
Jan 17 2015 8:25PM
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Backhaus
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I'm 45 lbs heavier than you, a 3+ and my DINs are set to 10...
Jan 17 2015 8:33PM
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fresh_prince
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Set ur din at two because you have two skis
Jan 17 2015 8:38PM
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wasatch_rat
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dude i'm 6'3 190 and i ride a 10. with the elastic travel on fks the din can go slightly lower than regular bindings and still be ok. if you are convinced that a 7 is not enough then put it at an 8, and if that gives you trouble go up from there. its gonna be way better to have a prerelease that teaches you to tighten the din than to tear your acl because they were too tight. honestly at your weight an 8 seems plenty tight enough
Jan 17 2015 8:51PM
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shin-bang
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just put them at 6 or 7
Jan 17 2015 9:33PM
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Bogs
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*sigh* just turn it to 7, dumbass.
Jan 17 2015 11:11PM
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galardogod
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I am 5'7 170 and I ride my marker free tens at 7 or 8
Jan 17 2015 11:34PM
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Rusticles
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Make sure forward pressure is set properly (at a shop). And for reference, I'm 5'8" and 185lbs and set dins at 9-10
Jan 18 2015 12:13AM
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Casey
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Remember that sticky in gear talk that Ced put up that was like this is the one thing you should never say to anyone?
Jan 18 2015 2:19AM
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hyllengren
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Matt_Go to a ski shop it is pretty obvious that you don't know what you are talking about the fis has nothing to do with din setting it is the regulatory body of snowsports competition.Also setting the din isn't as easy as easy a just turning a screwdriver you also need to adjust forward pressure.You can go to a shop and ask them to set your bindings attached whatever and they will just make you sign a waiver saying you don't hold them liable.


Can shops really help you with this? Every time I mount a pair of bindings in the states they set the din to 7 and then I have to crank it up to 15 again. I feel like they're being ridiculously careful. Also people seem to fail to realize that a ski coming of when it shouldn't is equally dangerous to a ski not coming of when it should.
Jan 18 2015 5:31AM
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Krotchs_Brother
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Hit me up when you're in the area and Ill take you to the gym babe
Jan 18 2015 8:13AM
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youngloaf
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Along with what other people have said I would advise you to go to a shop and have them check it out. As someone said earlier it's not all about turning a screw driver, there are other things that go into the mechanics of a binding. Just go to your local ski shop and explain to them honestly what you ride. They are usually pretty decking knowledgable dudes.
Jan 18 2015 8:31AM
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steezyclezy
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Thanks guys and I'm very well aware of how bindings work, the first thing I checked when they mounted them was the forward pressure. I had z10s and the only setting vaguely decent was ten, and having it set at max is dangerous anyway. I put these fks on ten because of my old bindings and am asking to see what you think, and now I think I should put them down a bit. If you go to a ski shop in Europe you'll see an fis sticker on skis to prove that a ski shop mounted them to official specifications, however fis is for weak kneed pussies.
Jan 18 2015 10:08AM
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SFBv420.0
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if your not smart enough to find the stickey in the right forum
take them to someone who is
Jan 18 2015 10:13AM
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Dirac
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Start at the recommended DIN and figure it out yourself from there. How do you expect anyone else to help you out?

The FKS binding does have more uncertainty in its adjustment. Like the forward pressure gauge is very rudimentary compared to more modern bindings that have very clear gauges. You basically will just have to learn to get a feel for it.

Your din setting is something you are going to have to figure out for yourself. It tells you how easily you are going to come out of a ski, but nothing about how easily you want to come out of your ski.

On my mogul ski, my din is set much higher than recommended, because I feel safer with a lower chance of pre-release in exchange for a higher chance of them staying on in a fall. On my park ski, my din is basically at recommended, because it's much lower impact and I am more likely to fall in a bunch of different ways.

You have to decide what your priorities are. Don't ask others to do it for you. The recommended DIN was designed to be the best option for 95% of skiers, and is the only thing that other people should advise to you.
Jan 18 2015 3:26PM
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El_Barto.
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You should have your purple name taken away for this. You clearly dont know what youre talking about and tbe fact that you, in any way, represent NS is embarrasing. Jesus
Jan 18 2015 5:51PM
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SpookyCat
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Crank it to 11, you pussy.
Jan 18 2015 6:37PM
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supercooladin
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I'm 12 and I use din 100. I'm 12 btw
Jan 18 2015 6:53PM
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suup
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supercooladinI'm 12 and I use din 100. I'm 12 btw


Swing and a miss.
Jan 18 2015 7:21PM
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californiagrown
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hyllengrenCan shops really help you with this? Every time I mount a pair of bindings in the states they set the din to 7 and then I have to crank it up to 15 again. I feel like they're being ridiculously careful. Also people seem to fail to realize that a ski coming of when it shouldn't is equally dangerous to a ski not coming of when it should.




Generally this is only true when you ski hard enough. If the OP has to ask what DIN he should be at, OP does not fucking rip haha. You know what i mean? When the danger of coming out too early starts to outweight the danger of coming out too late, you should be pretty well versed in how you want your equipment set up haha.
Jan 18 2015 8:00PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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El_Barto.You should have your purple name taken away for this. You clearly dont know what youre talking about and tbe fact that you, in any way, represent NS is embarrasing. Jesus


This is the best advice in this thread.
Jan 18 2015 8:49PM
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Lucas
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BackhausI'm 45 lbs heavier than you, a 3+ and my DINs are set to 10...


You're not as good as you think you are...

OP, how do you know 7 isn't good? Did you have pre-release issues at 7? If you did I would try 8 and then 9 if you still have them etc... Otherwise, leave them at 7. It's better to have knees than a high din to tell your friends about. Also, if you do have pre-release issues make sure it's not a forward pressure problem before you crank the old din.
Jan 18 2015 9:52PM
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jakejolo_9
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BackhausI'm 45 lbs heavier than you, a 3+ and my DINs are set to 10...


You aren't a 3+ skier, unless you just ski like a little girl on the hill. I'm 6'2 190 and I have mine at 14/15 for whenever I not in the park. Generally, for me at least, every time I have been on marker bindings I need to set them higher. But for my pivots I have right now they are at 14.
Jan 18 2015 9:55PM
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jakejolo_9
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LucasYou're not as good as you think you are...


Yeah no kidding, like if I skied 7 I would lose a ski every time I made a turn.
Jan 18 2015 9:59PM
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El_Barto.
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jakejolo_9You aren't a 3+ skier, unless you just ski like a little girl on the hill. I'm 6'2 190 and I have mine at 14/15 for whenever I not in the park. Generally, for me at least, every time I have been on marker bindings I need to set them higher. But for my pivots I have right now they are at 14.


Gotta crank that shit up for those sketchy minnesota double blacks
Jan 18 2015 10:39PM
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shin-bang
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it just got real^
Jan 18 2015 11:11PM
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jakejolo_9
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El_Barto.Gotta crank that shit up for those sketchy minnesota double blacks


Haha I meant when I'm out west, but I do have them at 16 when I race on the sketchy black diamonds. But one advantage we Midwesters and east coaster have over you westerners is... We learn to ski on ice, which is why Midwest-east coast skiers are the best skiers.
Jan 18 2015 11:25PM
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El_Barto.
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shut up. Dont give binding advice when you dont know about bindings. End of story.
Jan 19 2015 1:33AM
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steezyclezy
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I'm asking because I broke my pelvis from pre release, and I need a general idea of whether you should crank up fks to the same extent as salomons for example
Jan 19 2015 11:08AM
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Backhaus
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LucasYou're not as good as you think you are...

OP, how do you know 7 isn't good? Did you have pre-release issues at 7? If you did I would try 8 and then 9 if you still have them etc... Otherwise, leave them at 7. It's better to have knees than a high din to tell your friends about. Also, if you do have pre-release issues make sure it's not a forward pressure problem before you crank the old din.


jakejolo_9You aren't a 3+ skier, unless you just ski like a little girl on the hill. I'm 6'2 190 and I have mine at 14/15 for whenever I not in the park. Generally, for me at least, every time I have been on marker bindings I need to set them higher. But for my pivots I have right now they are at 14.


Haha ok whatever you guys say...I doubt I'm a 3+ also, but told the shop that so they would crank them up from the normal bitch setting.
I've never had a pre release, ski everything on the mountain, but I value my knees if I had a bad crash.

Cue in response of "you ski like a bitch" kthx sure I do!
Jan 19 2015 11:56AM
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Elg
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What exactly defines a 3+ skier?
Jan 19 2015 4:53PM
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californiagrown
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ElgWhat exactly defines a 3+ skier?


Combination of bootflex, length of ski and average rating of trail you ski.

So 195 ski(1.95) × 110 bootflex(1.1) × single diamond(2) = 4.2= 3+ skier.


Get it?
Jan 19 2015 6:49PM
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last_tango
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PSA.

If your willy feels funny after banging some rando you get your dick tested. If you are having funny pre releases in your ski bindings go get your bindings tested to make sure they are releasing properly. Failed "in use" testing multiple times with my bindings over the years. This is including steel toe pivot/fks
Jan 19 2015 7:16PM
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Casey
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SDrvpernope, what thread?



The sticky thread. In Gear Talk. It says don't be a moron and tell people how to set their din unless your are a shop tech. But hey way to contribute valuable content to the community! This thread should be deleted.
Jan 19 2015 7:59PM
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El_Barto.
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Caseynope, what thread?



The sticky thread. In Gear Talk. It says don't be a moron and tell people how to set their din unless your are a shop tech. But hey way to contribute valuable content to the community! This thread should be deleted.


This thread should be left up ans stickyd as an example of what not to do.

We weigh the same?!?!? Must use the same din...crank that shit up brah, fuck yo knees
Jan 19 2015 8:09PM
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rozboon
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Holy shit, we get this far into a DIN thread and not one of the "serious" answers have asked for his BSL.

Completely aside from the fact that there's a damn sticky saying don't give binding advice if you don't know what you're talking about, clearly nobody who has given binding advice so far knows what they're talking about.
Jan 19 2015 8:43PM
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Holte
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I typed out a long response in this thread a couple days ago, then thought nahhh and deleted it. It was a good decision.
Jan 20 2015 1:01AM
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Kreech
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There's so much fucking misinformation in this thread it's just sad. First of all, to everyone giving him actual DIN numbers to try, you're all idiots and setting him up to get seriously injured, not to mention the fact that it's a potential liability issue. Also, people trying to come up with a recommended DIN setting with only height and weight are not taking into account the myriad of other factors that contribute to the proper recommended DIN: age, BSL (a shorter boot has greater leverage against a binding and therefore warrants increased spring tension), and ability level, as well as height and weight. So all you people saying "I weigh ___ and I'm ____ tall and my DIN setting is ___ much higher than yours, therefore you must be a huge pussy " I hate to break it to you, but it's probably because you have tiny ass feet and therefore a small dick and are therefore unqualified to give binding advice. Goodnight.
OP: go to a shop if you haven't already figured that out.
Jan 20 2015 2:15AM
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grifrowl
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I've been trying my hardest to resist posting in this thread. First off, BSL (boot sole length) is super important to take into account, as has been said earlier.

Second, it is my opinion that this thread should be deleted by a mod. The amount of misinformation in here is next-level and in this case potentially dangerous. \rant
Jan 20 2015 2:51AM
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LC.
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High enough to stay on when they should, low enough to come off when they should.

End thread.
Jan 20 2015 3:06AM
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HuckNorris44
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KreechThere's so much fucking misinformation in this thread it's just sad. First of all, to everyone giving him actual DIN numbers to try, you're all idiots and setting him up to get seriously injured, not to mention the fact that it's a potential liability issue. Also, people trying to come up with a recommended DIN setting with only height and weight are not taking into account the myriad of other factors that contribute to the proper recommended DIN: age, BSL (a shorter boot has greater leverage against a binding and therefore warrants increased spring tension), and ability level, as well as height and weight. So all you people saying "I weigh ___ and I'm ____ tall and my DIN setting is ___ much higher than yours, therefore you must be a huge pussy " I hate to break it to you, but it's probably because you have tiny ass feet and therefore a small dick and are therefore unqualified to give binding advice. Goodnight.
OP: go to a shop if you haven't already figured that out.


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