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Who else is stoked? Hour and a half to go and I've got my pre order on iTunes locked in. Just preemptively making this thread for when the movie comes out. Hope it lives up to the expectations.
unknowndeaththere's so much good skiing (big ups to all of the skiers, you guys fucking KILLED it), and it's all ruined by being in a Level 1 movie.
there are so many fucking parts. I guess nobody over there has ever heard of guest shots before, or the sponsors are paying big bucks for their riders to have their own parts. Banks and Logan (just to pick on two) did not deserve their own intros and songs. Their shots could have easily been worked into someone else's part, or thrown in some "friends" section, significantly improving the flow of the movie.
None of the parts have any progression either. None of the songs have any buildup or finale to highlight any crazy tricks, and so most of the parts just seem like sort of a flat constant "this is kind of impressive." instead of starting with a banger, sprinkled with really great stuff throughout, and then with some sort of coda at the end that blows you away.
The music supervision is awful. As I said, none of the songs have any buildup or progression, creating a real lack of excitement in the parts as they go along. Also, they just suck. The song from Magnus' part might be the only song worth listening to or downloading in the whole movie (or any level 1 production for the last 4 years)
After 15 years, nobody at level 1 can use a fisheye yet. The stuff that I assume Shane McFalls filmed of Will Wesson in Japan is the only proper fisheye footage in the movie. Everything else either has some weird pan at the end or is just wrong. (Sig's shot on the blue ball??? So damn close. That pan to the snow at the end ruined it. LSM's nollie 360 over the bench? You can't even see the bench by the end of the shot, which is the whole reason people film fisheye.) I mean for god's sake, "fisheye" is one of the words in the collage at the beginning. (Which also includes "derp," "shiba inu," and "ermagherd." Seriously?)
Once again, I want to reiterate that the skiing was AMAZING. Some of the stuff really blew me away and was stuff I have wanted to see in skiing for a long time. The filming was mediocre at best, though, and the editing and included processes were bad.
yeap pretty much
that being said will, magnus and lsm did some fucking awesome skiing
its a good movie, has some v great segments but i would say buying the new MSP flick is more worth it. My main turnoff is that, at multiple times during the movie, I was checking the time to see when it would end because some of it is just boring. The MSP movie had me sitting on the edge of my seat throughout the whole thing. This just seems like a glorified mashup of ski edits. Not saying thats a bad thing, but there are better choices.
Berman and Magnus' parts were unbelievable. Delormes part was sick, and the seg where him and Mcchesney were seshing the gap over the lift was awesome. There was a whole lot of gimicky shit in there like I've come to expect from level 1, like the soundtrack which is really weird. Its definitley worth the buy just to see all of the urban stuff though, some serious hammers.
BKDamn bro... you sound like such a fisheye expert.
alright, if you're going to mock me, why don't you address where I'm wrong, mr. co-editor of "Less?"
The whole reason most people film fisheye is to make stuff look bigger, more impressive, and get closer to the action, making it take up more of the frame while still capturing the whole shot. In that shot of LSM in particular, the angle starts close to the feature, and then as the shot progresses, the camera gets pulled away and above, bringing the bench all the way almost out of the frame and making it look pretty small. You can't see the feature all the way through the trick, and there's no "wow, that was huge" effect as he rides away. This is the same for a lot of the fisheye shots throughout the movie. There's a shot from LSM I think on a wall, shot from above, that is disorienting and makes the feature look small. In very few of the fisheye shots does the subject move from one side of the frame, across to the other, either. Again, this not only usually allows for at least most of the feature to be in the shot at once, but it makes for a dynamic and interesting composition.
That's not to say there are no proper fisheye shots, (though I guess I did say that in my first post) but a lot of them are pretty wonky.
I loved this movie, but I will say that there's something to what the public has stated after watching it. The skiing was out of this world mind-boggling-ly nutty as fuck X1242353453579. I thought the filming was fantastic as well. But Level 1 does kind of have a track record of making movies that don't really escalate or increase in excitement. It's not always a bad thing by any means, and some of the segments were better off for it, but I think it would have been a bit more of a classic if it had ended with Berman or Kai's segment. Then again, maybe all the superficial hype of big banger ending shots and unreasonable stoke was something "Less" was trying to avoid. Either way, hats off to everyone involved.
The ending came out of no where for me.. I caught myself saying "Oh, it's done now?". But overall, everyone has pretty much summed it up: amazing skiing, mediocre editing/planning.
On the other hand, Khai's jib line was knocked out of the park. I was a big fan of how the run-up was filmed and how the shot stuck with him so only the features where passing through frame.
unknowndeathalright, if you're going to mock me, why don't you address where I'm wrong, mr. co-editor of "Less?"
The whole reason most people film fisheye is to make stuff look bigger, more impressive, and get closer to the action, making it take up more of the frame while still capturing the whole shot. In that shot of LSM in particular, the angle starts close to the feature, and then as the shot progresses, the camera gets pulled away and above, bringing the bench all the way almost out of the frame and making it look pretty small. You can't see the feature all the way through the trick, and there's no "wow, that was huge" effect as he rides away. This is the same for a lot of the fisheye shots throughout the movie. There's a shot from LSM I think on a wall, shot from above, that is disorienting and makes the feature look small. In very few of the fisheye shots does the subject move from one side of the frame, across to the other, either. Again, this not only usually allows for at least most of the feature to be in the shot at once, but it makes for a dynamic and interesting composition.
That's not to say there are no proper fisheye shots, (though I guess I did say that in my first post) but a lot of them are pretty wonky.
This movie was meant to be a departure from bigger-the-better style progression, and you're criticizing it for not making everything look as big as possible?
unknowndeathalright, if you're going to mock me, why don't you address where I'm wrong, mr. co-editor of "Less?"
The whole reason most people film fisheye is to make stuff look bigger, more impressive, and get closer to the action, making it take up more of the frame while still capturing the whole shot. In that shot of LSM in particular, the angle starts close to the feature, and then as the shot progresses, the camera gets pulled away and above, bringing the bench all the way almost out of the frame and making it look pretty small. You can't see the feature all the way through the trick, and there's no "wow, that was huge" effect as he rides away. This is the same for a lot of the fisheye shots throughout the movie. There's a shot from LSM I think on a wall, shot from above, that is disorienting and makes the feature look small. In very few of the fisheye shots does the subject move from one side of the frame, across to the other, either. Again, this not only usually allows for at least most of the feature to be in the shot at once, but it makes for a dynamic and interesting composition.
That's not to say there are no proper fisheye shots, (though I guess I did say that in my first post) but a lot of them are pretty wonky.
I do see your argument, the fact that it contributing to ruining the rest of the movie for you, sorry to hear.
You are right, I should have put more content to my last post than just mocking you, I guess when I saw your profile hobby as "hating" i got a little carried away.
Thankfully out of the handful of shots I did have in the movie none of them are fisheye shots, so we are like, totally chill brah.
unknowndeaththere's so much good skiing (big ups to all of the skiers, you guys fucking KILLED it), and it's all ruined by being in a Level 1 movie.
there are so many fucking parts. I guess nobody over there has ever heard of guest shots before, or the sponsors are paying big bucks for their riders to have their own parts. Banks and Logan (just to pick on two) did not deserve their own intros and songs. Their shots could have easily been worked into someone else's part, or thrown in some "friends" section, significantly improving the flow of the movie.
None of the parts have any progression either. None of the songs have any buildup or finale to highlight any crazy tricks, and so most of the parts just seem like sort of a flat constant "this is kind of impressive." instead of starting with a banger, sprinkled with really great stuff throughout, and then with some sort of coda at the end that blows you away.
The music supervision is awful. As I said, none of the songs have any buildup or progression, creating a real lack of excitement in the parts as they go along. Also, they just suck. The song from Magnus' part might be the only song worth listening to or downloading in the whole movie (or any level 1 production for the last 4 years)
After 15 years, nobody at level 1 can use a fisheye yet. The stuff that I assume Shane McFalls filmed of Will Wesson in Japan is the only proper fisheye footage in the movie. Everything else either has some weird pan at the end or is just wrong. (Sig's shot on the blue ball??? So damn close. That pan to the snow at the end ruined it. LSM's nollie 360 over the bench? You can't even see the bench by the end of the shot, which is the whole reason people film fisheye.) I mean for god's sake, "fisheye" is one of the words in the collage at the beginning. (Which also includes "derp," "shiba inu," and "ermagherd." Seriously?)
Once again, I want to reiterate that the skiing was AMAZING. Some of the stuff really blew me away and was stuff I have wanted to see in skiing for a long time. The filming was mediocre at best, though, and the editing and included processes were bad.
Maybe you weren't paying attention but banks and logan had some real sick shots in there. I dont get what you're all butt hurt about I thought it flowed exceptionally well for being a level 1 movie.
EvanMeyerMaybe you weren't paying attention but banks and logan had some real sick shots in there. I dont get what you're all butt hurt about I thought it flowed exceptionally well for being a level 1 movie.
I never said they didn't have bangers. Logan's shots were some of the craziest in the whole movie (shout out to Logan Imlach, you're fucking sick, wish you were still "skiing professionally" or whatever), but they could have easily been shown with just a brief intro, at the end or in the middle of someone else's part, with the same song. Shared parts are a thing, and they often work really really well, but Level 1 doesn't seem to do them. Same with Banks. And Delorme.
And on the fisheye thing: BK, just my honest opinion yo. The long lens stuff was really good, so whatever shots were yours, I'm sure they're money. And I'm not saying everything has to look huge, but you want to highlight whatever your trick was for sure, and you definitely don't want to make anything look smaller than it actually is, unless you're trying to make some joke about it.
And again: The skiing was better than I can describe. Everything LSM is doing is sick, Sig Tviet's second life revival as a hipster is awesome, Duncan's opener had some goddamn powerful skiing in it, Will Wesson is keeping it real, Berman is a G, I mean everyone murdered.
Delorme got like 7 shots. That was a little disappointing. But holy shit Mangus, Tim, Berman, and LSM were amazing. They all had banger edits. Pretty good movie, it met most of my expectations. I reccomend getting or at least seeing this movie
unknowndeaththere's so much good skiing (big ups to all of the skiers, you guys fucking KILLED it), and it's all ruined by being in a Level 1 movie.
there are so many fucking parts. I guess nobody over there has ever heard of guest shots before, or the sponsors are paying big bucks for their riders to have their own parts. Banks and Logan (just to pick on two) did not deserve their own intros and songs. Their shots could have easily been worked into someone else's part, or thrown in some "friends" section, significantly improving the flow of the movie.
None of the parts have any progression either. None of the songs have any buildup or finale to highlight any crazy tricks, and so most of the parts just seem like sort of a flat constant "this is kind of impressive." instead of starting with a banger, sprinkled with really great stuff throughout, and then with some sort of coda at the end that blows you away.
The music supervision is awful. As I said, none of the songs have any buildup or progression, creating a real lack of excitement in the parts as they go along. Also, they just suck. The song from Magnus' part might be the only song worth listening to or downloading in the whole movie (or any level 1 production for the last 4 years)
After 15 years, nobody at level 1 can use a fisheye yet. The stuff that I assume Shane McFalls filmed of Will Wesson in Japan is the only proper fisheye footage in the movie. Everything else either has some weird pan at the end or is just wrong. (Sig's shot on the blue ball??? So damn close. That pan to the snow at the end ruined it. LSM's nollie 360 over the bench? You can't even see the bench by the end of the shot, which is the whole reason people film fisheye.) I mean for god's sake, "fisheye" is one of the words in the collage at the beginning. (Which also includes "derp," "shiba inu," and "ermagherd." Seriously?)
Once again, I want to reiterate that the skiing was AMAZING. Some of the stuff really blew me away and was stuff I have wanted to see in skiing for a long time. The filming was mediocre at best, though, and the editing and included processes were bad.
Absolutely perfect analysis.
If anyone watches snowboarding, even if you dont, watch the movie Deja Vu. Has maximum 7 segments and they are all fucking bangers, never bored, never lack lustered, always stoked.
I really liked it... Almost more than sunny, I feel like half of ns is hating on it because the soundtrack wasn't all shitty music like wutang and mobb deep....... The soundtrack was great, well filmed/edited and it had a great chill end segment
thedawgman lsm really has something goin, his skiing is entirely his own
Goddamn dude, when he's flowing in the bowls and then the staircase shots that Sig hit too it reminded me of old follow cam skate edits. So damn good. LSM had my favourite segment easy as well as the ender with LSM, Sig, Par, and Shay.
Great movie, bought it last night at 1am and was going to wait until today to watch it but couldn't resist.
First off, I saw less at IF3 so it's been a bit since I saw it. Second, so glad that Duncan Adams is back and filming with level 1, he is the most underrated skier out there. Third, I miss Josh Bibby I hope he is back next year. It wasn't the best level 1 film but it was still pretty solid.
Overall I thought the movie was fantastic as creative urban skiing is my favorite type of skiing to watch and Magnus, LSM, Berman, Sig delivered heavily with some great shots from Banks, Imlach, Wesson, LJ, and everyone else as well.
The movie definitely departed from the usual level 1 type of movie and had more of a Videograss feel to it. I agree that the fisheye filming could be improved but I never felt like it detracted from the movie, it just seems like a way to make an even better film. I also agree that the shot placement was somewhat wack sometimes and having more defined enders in some of the parts would give the movie less of a "mediocre" feel, where you are just watching a blur of amazing urban shots but there's not really any change of pace or shots that immediately jump out. These details are somewhat minor though and I thought the movie was great overall.
I will also say that I'm extremely stoked for Brower to be with Level 1. It was amazing in the Superunknown edit how among a group of amazing park skiers he managed to get the sickest shot on almost every feature. With him, LSM, Magnus, Sig, and many other urban skiers on the level 1 team some of the future movies could be insane.
Magnus and LSM killed it. Duncan adams and khai also really impressed me.
I thought the editing and filming was below level 1's standards. I thought the movie had a lot of short and dull segments. No-one had the type of banger all-around segment I buy level 1 movies for.
ski0Magnus and LSM killed it. Duncan adams and khai also really impressed me.
I thought the editing and filming was below level 1's standards. I thought the movie had a lot of short and dull segments. No-one had the type of banger all-around segment I buy level 1 movies for.
wouldnt be surprised if magnus n lsm did their own thing ;)
Since when does a nollie 360 over a bench belong in any ski movie? Let alone Level 1? I've been a loyal supporter of Level 1 for so many years, I literally have watched High Five and Shanghai Six hundreds of times (like many of you) and Refresh could be my favorite ski film ever, but man I am so disappointed about this movie.
I get the try "Less" thing and maybe I am too old for where skiing is now and just don't see it. I should have read into what the movie was really about before buying it just because it's Level 1's new movie, as I always do. There are so many great skiers in there and I loved a handful of the segments (strenio, mcchesney, berman, delorme, graner, krepla, wesson,wiley, banks) but I can't help venting a bit on here. I don't pretend to be even close to these skiers' levels by any means and I do respect these new styles but I'm curious to see everyone's opinion? Especially the fans who've been watching Level 1 for the past decade?
To be honest I can't believe I'm criticizing a Level 1 movie but I really am curious to see what everyone thinks
HENRYHIBBELNI really liked it... Almost more than sunny, I feel like half of ns is hating on it because the soundtrack wasn't all shitty music like wutang and mobb deep....... The soundtrack was great, well filmed/edited and it had a great chill end segment
I'm gonna look past the comment about wu tang, but I agree about the less soundtrack. I though it was sick and unique.
On another note, I was expecting Ahmet to have more shots. I'm always looking forward to his segs and I was suprised he didn't come on until after the credits
Good, not great ski movie. Sunny is still my favorite level1.
Ok music (sound was pretty blown out at the premiere).
Delorme and Rainville all had excellent shots, just far to few of them. I liked how creative the urban was, but was far too much of the focus of the film.
Bring backcountry back!
dwatson012Since when does a nollie 360 over a bench belong in any ski movie? Let alone Level 1? I've been a loyal supporter of Level 1 for so many years, I literally have watched High Five and Shanghai Six hundreds of times (like many of you) and Refresh could be my favorite ski film ever, but man I am so disappointed about this movie.
I get the try "Less" thing and maybe I am too old for where skiing is now and just don't see it. I should have read into what the movie was really about before buying it just because it's Level 1's new movie, as I always do. There are so many great skiers in there and I loved a handful of the segments (strenio, mcchesney, berman, delorme, graner, krepla, wesson,wiley, banks) but I can't help venting a bit on here. I don't pretend to be even close to these skiers' levels by any means and I do respect these new styles but I'm curious to see everyone's opinion? Especially the fans who've been watching Level 1 for the past decade?
To be honest I can't believe I'm criticizing a Level 1 movie but I really am curious to see what everyone thinks
you don't actually give any reason for disliking the movie...
completely different movies and companies but the music cant be worse than pbps revolver... seriously had to turn off the sound because the music was so distracting..
Hughesyou don't actually give any reason for disliking the movie...
Haha you're right, my comments were very ambiguous.
Specifically the LSM/Sig Tveit sections were a huge turn-off for me, especially that last section before the movie ends. I know they are both great skiers. However, I felt that their skill was lacking in what was showcased in their segments. I enjoy the creativity and I respect that side of skiing, but I do not feel that certain shots belong in a film for what I consider one of the industry's top production companies.
Scraping along in the snow and throwing straight airs/boot grabs off of small cliffs is fun as hell when you ski, but does not belong in a professional ski movie (in my opinion). I get that the movie is focused on displaying the "fun" side of skiing, but in the past, level 1's movies have already accomplished this while still providing highly-skilled and stylish skiers/segments.
There were several awesome segments in this movie, I breathed a sigh of relief when McChesney and a handful of others' segments came on. Perhaps I am too narrow-minded on what type of skiing I want to see in a film but the bad segments were a huge disappointment and turn-off.
As I said in my prior comment, I really hate to criticize Level 1. I have worshipped their films for the past decade and they have gotten me beyond pumped for every single winter. Regardless of Less, they are still one of my favorite ski film companies and always will be.
