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RIP NSG. 2001-2014

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270on420out
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Thank you all for coming. It's sad to see that our beloved friend the NSG has passed away at the age of 14. An autopsy has shown that the NSG died due to over censorship, and a overly authoritarian environment.

We will share our favorite moments we had with the NSG.
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Sep 4 2014 8:56PM
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.FRY.
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pussyfooterretards


according to the rules, that word in unacceptable
Sep 4 2014 10:50PM
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1337
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TRVP_LVRDHave fun trying to keep this site alive. It will be hard when you have a lack of media and donators.


There are literally less than 20 of you causing a stink about this right now.
Sep 4 2014 10:51PM
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BROLF
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pussyfooterIf all you retards left that would be fucking great.


Actually, you're not allowed to say this anymore with the new rules, it is disrespecting those with mental disabilities.
Sep 4 2014 10:51PM
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-emile-
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BROLFActually, you're not allowed to say this anymore with the new rules, it is disrespecting those with mental disabilities.


yeh that's kind of demeaning to mods.
Sep 4 2014 10:57PM
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.frenchy
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Dude, newschoolers isn't a dying forum at all. wtf


You don't like the new rules? Go make your own ski forum. I'm not the biggest fan of the rules but the only new rules is the "OP's mom" jokes aren't allowed anymore. Because they were never funny to begin with.
Sep 4 2014 10:59PM
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WPoch
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I could honestly not give any fucks if they changed the system or not.
Sep 4 2014 11:00PM
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270on420out
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Walter.1337There are literally less than 20 of you causing a stink about this right now.


According to the thread poll 57% of NSers who took my survey are unsatisfied with the new rules. If every active forum user on the site took the survey what do you think the results would be?
Sep 4 2014 11:01PM
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Abu_Hajaar
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-emile-yeh that's kind of demeaning to mods.


Sep 4 2014 11:01PM
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milk_man
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pussyfooterIf all you retards left that would be fucking great.


So you can call me a retard but I can't call other people retards? Makes perfect sense.
Sep 4 2014 11:02PM
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BWalmer
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I think it's actually pretty funny how all of you are complaining when it's worth noting that Jamie is a big proponent of toning down NSG...that's coming from someone who was permabanned TWICE and was easily one of the mods least favorite members, yet he managed to turn it around and become a mod, the head of the photography content producers and a yearbook editor...and he still has fun on this site...seriously, if he's saying tone it down, it's clearly gone too far, haha.
Sep 4 2014 11:02PM
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270on420out
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.frenchyDude, newschoolers isn't a dying forum at all. wtf


You don't like the new rules? Go make your own ski forum. I'm not the biggest fan of the rules but the only new rules is the "OP's mom" jokes aren't allowed anymore. Because they were never funny to begin with.


How do you feel about the pussification of Ns. (I.e. No more hateful posts)

Ops mom jokes are somewhat overplayed though. I still enjoyed the NSG for how free it seemed.
Sep 4 2014 11:04PM
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.frenchy
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TRVP_LVRDHow do you feel about the pussification of Ns. (I.e. No more hateful posts)


Lol I wouldn't say pussification, but stricter NS is not a good thing for frenchy. I'm pretty sure I have the most bans on one single account on NS, most of those bans from hateful posts probably (I don't remember) So obviously I don't feel good about the no more hateful posts idea :)


because sometimes I get too wrapped up in trolling, not that I do it anymore really. I've kinda passed that phase hah
Sep 4 2014 11:08PM
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Such_Doge
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pussyfooterIf all you retards left that would be fucking great.



You sir just broke two of the new rules:

1. -Contains unwarranted and direct hate towards other members of the site
2. You used the word "retard" against another member which is making fun of someone for a "mental or physical handicap"
Sep 4 2014 11:14PM
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.FRY.
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you guys are taking it too far. calm the fuck down. no need to make 50 threads complaining about the new rules.
Sep 4 2014 11:17PM
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plyswthsqrrls
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Such_DogeYou sir just broke two of the new rules:

1. -Contains unwarranted and direct hate towards other members of the site
2. You used the word "retard" against another member which is making fun of someone for a "mental or physical handicap"


might have been mildly relevant if it wasn't posted more than three times already. also, no one gives a fuck.
Sep 4 2014 11:17PM
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270on420out
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.FRY.you guys are taking it too far. calm the fuck down. no need to make 50 threads complaining about the new rules.


I made this thread before all the other dickweeds jumped on the bandwagon / endhipsterrant
Sep 4 2014 11:19PM
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PacificRimJob
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Good grief...
Sep 4 2014 11:19PM
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1337
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TRVP_LVRDAccording to the thread poll 57% of NSers who took my survey are unsatisfied with the new rules. If every active forum user on the site took the survey what do you think the results would be?

Let me tell you a bit about Newschoolers. First of all, there is a lot more to this site than what just lays in NSG. If you are unfamiliar with it, here are some links:

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/1/Ski-Gabber
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum?regional
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/4/Media-And-Arts
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/25/Gear-nbsp-Talk
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/forums/view/cults/
https://www.newschoolers.com/photos/latest.0/Latest_photos%20
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/latest.0/Latest_photos%20
https://www.newschoolers.com/news/
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/reviews
https://www.newschoolers.com/home

These are just some of the many, many places that many other members of this site go to! And you want to know something crazy? A bunch of those users don't even step foot in here. That's right, this site has quite a big user-base outside of the active forum posters, and especially those involved in NSG. Aside from not even knowing NSG exists, one of the most common excuses why people don't post in the forums is "NSG full of hate and 12 year olds."

While that statistic is not true and the average demographic of NS Members is much older than 12, there has been a rise in the number of complaints about the negative comments starting to spread into these other forums. I'm not sure how many of the problematic members of NSG actually ever leave NSG and go to other parts of the site, but they've influenced a few people that it's OK to make fun of some kids mom in a video, in a news article, or in ski gabber.

NSG is not the center of Newschoolers. It is merely a sliver of the pie. Some heavy forum users sometimes believe it to be true, and take their e-toughness elsewhere on the site, and that's where the problems have started to pop up. The easiest way for us to handle this is trace it back to the source, figure out what is degrading the comment maturity, and do what we can to encourage change. Overall, this is not just a moderation effort but a community one as well. If we can get people on board to contribute thoughtful and engaging comments and feedback, along with not tolerating some of the stale, unoriginal, and frankly immature humor, then a lot of our problems will be solved.
Sep 4 2014 11:20PM
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1337
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.frenchyLol I wouldn't say pussification, but stricter NS is not a good thing for frenchy. I'm pretty sure I have the most bans on one single account on NS, most of those bans from hateful posts probably (I don't remember) So obviously I don't feel good about the no more hateful posts idea :)


because sometimes I get too wrapped up in trolling, not that I do it anymore really. I've kinda passed that phase hah

Skiierman has you beat by about double, sorry bub :\
Sep 4 2014 11:21PM
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.frenchy
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Walter.1337Skiierman has you beat by about double, sorry bub :\


But he also joined 6 years before me and has been banned for the past year or so... You gotta admit, I did pretty good ;)


And does he really have over 20 bans? .... That's pretty dickered m8
Sep 4 2014 11:24PM
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RevolverHustleO
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TRVP_LVRDI made this thread before all the other dickweeds jumped on the bandwagon / endhipsterrant


go sit in a corner
Sep 4 2014 11:27PM
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270on420out
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RevolverHustleOgo sit in a corner


Just being truthful.
Sep 4 2014 11:28PM
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.FRY.
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off topic. but does anyone know how many bans yoski had before he got kicked for good?
Sep 4 2014 11:29PM
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.Hugo.
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.FRY.off topic. but does anyone know how many bans yoski had before he got kicked for good?


hes still on here under another alias. he pmed me asking me to speak on this matter on his behalf or some shit. no idea why he'd ask me to do that though
Sep 4 2014 11:32PM
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RevolverHustleO
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.Hugo.he pmed me asking me to speak on this matter on his behalf or some shit


do share, this sounds hilarious
Sep 4 2014 11:35PM
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.FRY.
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.Hugo.hes still on here under another alias. he pmed me asking me to speak on this matter on his behalf or some shit. no idea why he'd ask me to do that though


he asked me to ask this. I'm asking it mainly cause I'm a little curious myself.
Sep 4 2014 11:35PM
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1337
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.Hugo.hes still on here under another alias. he pmed me asking me to speak on this matter on his behalf or some shit. no idea why he'd ask me to do that though

Thanks for selling him out m8, we'll go check the IP logs and take care of him.
Sep 4 2014 11:37PM
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SFB
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Walter.1337Thanks for selling him out m8, we'll go check the IP logs and take care of him.

hahahahaha
Sep 4 2014 11:37PM
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.Hugo.
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RevolverHustleOdo share, this sounds hilarious


not really, quite dull and stupid actually

please --> .Hugo.$
hey this is yoski on an old alias, can you make a post in the new rules thread saying something like yoski sends his regards from prison and says the new rules are dumb
Sep 4 2014 11:38PM
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.Hugo.
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Walter.1337Thanks for selling him out m8, we'll go check the IP logs and take care of him.


better yet i just posted his name for you
Sep 4 2014 11:39PM
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plyswthsqrrls
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Walter.1337Thanks for selling him out m8, we'll go check the IP logs and take care of him.


yoski at the moment
Sep 4 2014 11:42PM
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270on420out
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After going through the five stages of grief I am now fine. Carry on mods.
Sep 4 2014 11:44PM
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1337
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.Hugo.not really, quite dull and stupid actually

please --> .Hugo.$
hey this is yoski on an old alias, can you make a post in the new rules thread saying something like yoski sends his regards from prison and says the new rules are dumb


plyswthsqrrlsyoski at the moment


That was easy
Sep 4 2014 11:47PM
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skier_boy26
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pussyfooterIf all you retards left that would be fucking great.


Truth.


While I like a good ol bitch fest from time to time, I actually find the more moderated forums to be a bit more enjoyable in the long term (as long as swearing is allowed. I need that shit). There was certainly a time when I would have though otherwise, but god damn - posting dumb shit ad nauseum, memes all the fucking time, - it fucking presses. The rest of the "new rules" aren't really all that new and make a shit ton of sense for the viability of a place like NS.

Noobs: go fuck yourselves.
Sep 5 2014 12:18AM
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spruitm
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Did you not see the part where it said they stopped modding NSG in 2011? When I used to come here in 2007-2010 it was way better and way funnier than it is now. They are just trying to get rid of the pointless "kill yourself" comments that have become so common. It didn't used to be like that and there was still tons of freedom, which there still will be. Just stop posting the pointless, thread ruining comments. RIP 2011-2014 NSG an good riddance
Sep 5 2014 1:23AM
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miroz
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I'm having trouble understanding what the problem is. The people complaining are, for the most part: a) relatively new or b) young. Even frenchy [somewhat] accepts the proposed changes. That's the cue for all you wannabes to take a seat.
Sep 5 2014 1:56AM
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Lucas
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I understand the want to have less rules so we can be rebels on the internetz but god damn, this is going to make NSG so much better, I don't really see any down sides.
Sep 5 2014 2:45AM
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bighomieflock
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The referenced post has been removed.


Sir, are you aware that you are currently in violation of new Newschoolers policy and you are subject to post deletion and potential ban as your post:

"Contains unwarranted and direct hate towards other members of the site"?

You better be careful or you're going to end up not being a mod. Oh wait.
Sep 5 2014 2:46AM
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PacificRimJob
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.FRY.off topic. but does anyone know how many bans yoski had before he got kicked for good?


Technically 7, but let's just say 8.
Sep 5 2014 2:49AM
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cool_name
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everyone who says all the op moms jokes arent funny are lying. Sure, some them arent, could even go as far as to say most arent, but every once in while gold pops up.

Anyways if you truly dont find them funny down vote them, people will say they dont care about downvotes, but if your post is ranked -10 you most likely arent going to make a similar joke again because it is pretty clear nobody found it funny. The thing is most op moms are still upvoted, so people will keep making them because the response they got is people found it funny. Once they become over played(as they are now) they will start not getting upvotes just like the old mattress joke that used to appear everywhere and people will for the most part stop making them.
Sep 5 2014 2:53AM
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PacificRimJob
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cool_nameeveryone who says all the op moms jokes arent funny are lying. Sure, some them arent, could even go as far as to say most arent, but every once in while gold pops up.

Anyways if you truly dont find them funny down vote them, people will say they dont care about downvotes, but if your post is ranked -10 you most likely arent going to make a similar joke again because it is pretty clear nobody found it funny. The thing is most op moms are still upvoted, so people will keep making them because the response they got is people found it funny. Once they become over played(as they are now) they will start not getting upvotes just like the old mattress joke that used to appear everywhere and people will for the most part stop making them.


Yeah, downvoting doesn't stop trolls. Banhammers on the other hand, certainly do.
Sep 5 2014 2:55AM
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cool_name
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Walter.1337Let me tell you a bit about Newschoolers. First of all, there is a lot more to this site than what just lays in NSG. If you are unfamiliar with it, here are some links:

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/1/Ski-Gabber
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum?regional
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/4/Media-And-Arts
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/25/Gear-nbsp-Talk
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/forums/view/cults/
https://www.newschoolers.com/photos/latest.0/Latest_photos%20
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/latest.0/Latest_photos%20
https://www.newschoolers.com/news/
https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/content/reviews
https://www.newschoolers.com/home

These are just some of the many, many places that many other members of this site go to! And you want to know something crazy? A bunch of those users don't even step foot in here. That's right, this site has quite a big user-base outside of the active forum posters, and especially those involved in NSG. Aside from not even knowing NSG exists, one of the most common excuses why people don't post in the forums is "NSG full of hate and 12 year olds."

While that statistic is not true and the average demographic of NS Members is much older than 12, there has been a rise in the number of complaints about the negative comments starting to spread into these other forums. I'm not sure how many of the problematic members of NSG actually ever leave NSG and go to other parts of the site, but they've influenced a few people that it's OK to make fun of some kids mom in a video, in a news article, or in ski gabber.

NSG is not the center of Newschoolers. It is merely a sliver of the pie. Some heavy forum users sometimes believe it to be true, and take their e-toughness elsewhere on the site, and that's where the problems have started to pop up. The easiest way for us to handle this is trace it back to the source, figure out what is degrading the comment maturity, and do what we can to encourage change. Overall, this is not just a moderation effort but a community one as well. If we can get people on board to contribute thoughtful and engaging comments and feedback, along with not tolerating some of the stale, unoriginal, and frankly immature humor, then a lot of our problems will be solved.


Can we just note that only 23% of nsg users in this poll supported the changes. If the problem is that it is spreading into the other areas of the site and making it seem less welcoming why dont you just be stricter in those sections of the site. It cant be hard to make it clear that rules will more strict everywhere else in the site and less strict in nsg.

Also we have a fantastic post ranking system, so if you guys are going to start banning people for unoriginal and stupid posts can you at least use the ranking system to determine whether or not joke is to be deemed not funny, rather than just the mods opinion because lets face not everyone finds the same stuff funny, but if a majority finds or funny or doesnt mind it and a couple mods dont find it funny that shouldn't result in a ban or even a warning.

finally not all threads are going to be meaningful community building discussions, some will just be boys being boys talking about nonsense and calling each other names, just like most of us on here would do with are friends when we are hanging out. The description of this portion of forum says talk about whatever turns your crank, so why cant you let us?
Sep 5 2014 3:07AM
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cool_name
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DingoSeanYeah, downvoting doesn't stop trolls. Banhammers on the other hand, certainly do.


thats when mods should step in, if a person is always getting there posts down voted like crazy and keeps making the same bad(in the sense downvotes show nobody finds them funny) jokes then i feel mods should step and ban or least warn the person.
Sep 5 2014 3:12AM
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PacificRimJob
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cool_namethats when mods should step in, if a person is always getting there posts down voted like crazy and keeps making the same bad(in the sense downvotes show nobody finds them funny) jokes then i feel mods should step and ban or least warn the person.


Nah, fuck that. No patience. You post a stupid OP's mom joke, your'e getting a banning issued. The end.
Sep 5 2014 3:17AM
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bighomieflock
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The referenced post has been removed.


Telling people to "fuck off" over petty internet posts and opinions seems pretty unwarranted to me. But then again "unwarranted" is a very vague word so in the end the new rules just place more powering the personal opinions of the mods than any objective standard.

How in the world can people be so bothered by an occasional "op's mom" joke in threads that don't even relate to skiing? If you think it's unoriginal, juvenile humor, then simply skip over the post and leave it for other people who have different senses of humor. What did you lose a second of your valuable time you spend perusing an internet f
Sep 5 2014 3:26AM
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miroz
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bighomieflockTelling people to "fuck off" over petty internet posts and opinions seems pretty unwarranted to me. But then again "unwarranted" is a very vague word so in the end the new rules just place more powering the personal opinions of the mods than any objective standard.

How in the world can people be so bothered by an occasional "op's mom" joke in threads that don't even relate to skiing? If you think it's unoriginal, juvenile humor, then simply skip over the post and leave it for other people who have different senses of humor. What did you lose a second of your valuable time you spend perusing an internet f


You're missing the point, and that's why you're getting flamed. These first post "op's mom" jokes are not occasional, they're omnipresent, and they are unoriginal and juvenile - that's not what I think, that's what is. And how can you leave it for other people when the rest of the thread is officially on the fast track to shit, because that first post ruined it? Answer: you can't. It ruins the thread for everyone who went to click on it for what it was meant to be.
Sep 5 2014 3:31AM
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cool_name
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bighomieflockHow in the world can people be so bothered by an occasional "op's mom" joke in threads that don't even relate to skiing? If you think it's unoriginal, juvenile humor, then simply skip over the post and leave it for other people who have different senses of humor. What did you lose a second of your valuable time you spend perusing an internet f


exactly my opinion and occasionally a really funny one comes along and makes all the other skipped over posts worth it.
Sep 5 2014 3:31AM
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PacificRimJob
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bighomieflockTelling people to "fuck off" over petty internet posts and opinions seems pretty unwarranted to me. But then again "unwarranted" is a very vague word so in the end the new rules just place more powering the personal opinions of the mods than any objective standard.

How in the world can people be so bothered by an occasional "op's mom" joke in threads that don't even relate to skiing? If you think it's unoriginal, juvenile humor, then simply skip over the post and leave it for other people who have different senses of humor. What did you lose a second of your valuable time you spend perusing an internet f


Think of it this way. If you wouldn't say it in public, in front of your date, and they didn't outright deserve the backlash, then it's probably uncool.

That's a terrible argument. It's not necessarily just one OP's mom post.. it will turn into 3 or 4, and then followed with some dumb memes and it completely derails what could have been an interesting thread about a topic that could spark some great dialogue. I've had it happen to me on multiple occasions and it's super obnoxious. It keeps me from posting in NSG, and I'm sure it does the same to others. One could say this is a utilitarian decision...

30-40 idiots who want to hold onto their dumb OP jokes, no matter how outspoken they are, take a backseat to the hundreds of people who WOULD post in NSG, and WOULD spend more time on the site if it weren't for this amateur hour crap.
Sep 5 2014 3:35AM
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