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i know what you mean, but what is the problem with this "pushing" stuff? is anybody on here so insecure that they cannot stand someone talking about meaningful matters?
like what if your friends tell you that they only like european beer and they advise you to only drink that, would that also ruin your day?
i think not, but all these "minorities" are always criticized for "shoving their beliefs down ones throats".
heck i am not even religious but dont mind some devout christian to approach me and talk about it. i have my own mind and can listen to anything but have to believe nothing. how in the world can you stay openminded when you dont listen or feel confined by someone trying to help you, the society and our planet?
this isnt directed at you so much, but more at this general problem. like in so many threads this seems to be the biggest issue, not the actual problem, just how the people fighting for it are acting. that annoys me. here the discussion is not about whether or not its ethically and ecologically sound to eat meat, no its just about how annoying vegans are and how, for whatever reason, this reduces the legitimacy of vegetarianism/veganism overall.
what about them? what part of his post are you even addressing? they apparently aren't a very healthy group of people (cvd, stroke, heart disease) and not even peta is against aboriginal hunting for sustenance
the problem is not what some indigenous tribe does for its own purpose.
the problem is our civilized countries which have evolved beyond instincts but still act like we absolutely have to eat meat since our ancestors hunted mammoths (which they probably didnt).
"humans" are omnivores, so we HAVE to eat meat. no we dont have to. there are top-notch athletes that can produce world-class results while vegetarian or even vegan.
say you like the taste of meat, i am ok with that, but this shouldnt really be an excuse for how we treat our fellow earthlings. and dont come with "plants also shouldnt be killed since they are living". they do not have a sensory system and clearly are on a different "level" of being alive.
"Our fellow earthlings" are raised for food, and have been for centuries. Consider how well a cow would do if left to fend for itself in nature… Now consider how it would die in nature. We're not doing our fellow earthlings any favours by keeping them alive, although I agree its unnecessary to make them suffer before death.
Also, how developed are we really? Our lives are still dominated by a pleasure system now that its easy to survive. Internet porn thrives and all we look for is pleasure in its most basic form. Scarcely more civilized. Did you ever read Brave New World? Our world is like that meets 1984 (Google) and then throw in a little racism and environmental decay. We haven't developed enough to see that there are larger issues that should be tackled before creating a new mobile porno browser (iPhone).
inb4 steak/bacon pics. ar6rider, cirillo, bandelorodo, phil6x are not allowed.
Hey OP, I love you! (but not in a sexual way)
it's kind of funny how any mention of food without animal products will attract a load of butthurt kids who feel they have to sound off.
"vegans are pushy?" not as pushy as people who love bacon and feel they need to tell everyone how good it is. I suggest they stay far, far away from vegan food... it all tastes like chalk ;)
sackit's kind of funny how any mention of food without animal products will attract a load of butthurt kids who feel they have to sound off.
"vegans are pushy?" not as pushy as people who love bacon and feel they need to tell everyone how good it is.
says the vegan that bumps a dead 2 year old thread so she can voice her opinion on the matter....
thanks for the kind words, but I wanted to share some pictures and just found all the butthurt comments funny.
anyhow, who doesn't like to look at delicious food?
would you rather I make a new vegan food porn thread?
sackthanks for the kind words, but I wanted to share some pictures and just found all the butthurt comments funny.
anyhow, who doesn't like to look at delicious food?
would you rather I make a new vegan food porn thread?
I mean I love eating all sorta of animals, but I don't want beef in my muffins bro
sack
thanks for the kind words, but I wanted to share some pictures and just found all the butthurt comments funny.
anyhow, who doesn't like to look at delicious food?
would you rather I make a new vegan food porn thread?
UglyboyIf you're in Toronto, look up live market vegan Cafe. Amazing vegan foof
that looks awesome. I love raw cafes!
unfortunately I live in nagoya japan but we have a couple of great vegan places here and near my house there is even a food store that sells vegan baked goods :)
The hate in this thread is ridiculous. Im not a vegan, but i can vouch for the decisions they are making, I dont talk down to anyone who enjoys a nice cut of meat either, but if any of you met a super hot babe 10/10 i could bet you wouldn't start cursing her out about her dietary beliefs, so why do it to individuals on the internet? smh
My girlfriend and I are what we call weekday vegetarians. We don't buy meat at the store because it saves us money, and eat vegetarian almost always at home. When we go out, we will eat meat if we want, but its not like we go eat a cow when we do(okay, I might).
Vegans are crazy though. No animal product whatsoever? How do you go about life? I could literally never, especially not in the Midwest, without drastically changing my life and spending much more money just to be "Vegan".
To be honest though, I am disappointed in this threads food porn. Where is OP's own photos? Do you not make Vegan meals, or do you just post whatever looks good on a vegan food search on google?
Here are some of my favorite vegetarian meals I make tho to keep this storm going.
ianrich511Vegans are crazy though. No animal product whatsoever? How do you go about life? I could literally never, especially not in the Midwest, without drastically changing my life and spending much more money just to be "Vegan".
that's great that you cut down on meat!:) to be honest, 5 years ago I felt exactly the same way about vegans and vegan food. the fact is, eating a vegan diet can be really cheap. Actually I became vegan to save money haha (grass-fed milk and cheese is expensive). if you eat meat replacements like soy cheese and soy meat, especially the good ones like Field Roast veganism can be really expensive. (or if you buy a lot of vegan baked goods at Whole Foods.) However, almost any non-vegan dish can be made vegan without a lot of specialty products. For most people the big hump to get over is quitting cheese. I live in Japan so we don't have any non-dairy cheese but we do have mochi (it's like melty cheese) and shio-koji (gives a cheesy taste to things) which are super cheap. There are also lots of cheap snacks and ready to eat foods in the store that just happen to be vegan, in both Japan and north america. I think the impression that vegan food is expensive most people get is because foods with the label "Vegan" are expensive, but that's just because they are also organic, super food, sugar-free, whole grain, no preservatives/colorings, raw or whatever. Vegan doesn't necessarily mean "healthy."
sackthat's great that you cut down on meat!:) to be honest, 5 years ago I felt exactly the same way about vegans and vegan food. the fact is, eating a vegan diet can be really cheap. Actually I became vegan to save money haha (grass-fed milk and cheese is expensive). if you eat meat replacements like soy cheese and soy meat, especially the good ones like Field Roast veganism can be really expensive. (or if you buy a lot of vegan baked goods at Whole Foods.) However, almost any non-vegan dish can be made vegan without a lot of specialty products. For most people the big hump to get over is quitting cheese. I live in Japan so we don't have any non-dairy cheese but we do have mochi (it's like melty cheese) and shio-koji (gives a cheesy taste to things) which are super cheap. There are also lots of cheap snacks and ready to eat foods in the store that just happen to be vegan, in both Japan and north america. I think the impression that vegan food is expensive most people get is because foods with the label "Vegan" are expensive, but that's just because they are also organic, super food, sugar-free, whole grain, no preservatives/colorings, raw or whatever. Vegan doesn't necessarily mean "healthy."
I totally agree. Most of my meals are vegatarian but also technically vegan. I was referring to the vegan lifestyle, like not having leather shoes. I gotta have leather shoes.
ianrich511I totally agree. Most of my meals are vegatarian but also technically vegan. I was referring to the vegan lifestyle, like not having leather shoes. I gotta have leather shoes.
ha nice! yeah it gets a bit confusing especially if you're nitpicky about minor ingredients in cosmetics, leather, wool, silk, animal testing and what have you. that's why I cut animal things out of my life little by little. there are some decent non-leather shoes out there even dress shoes, but to be honest I just wear vans, running shoes, gum boots or suede skate shoes I bought years ago. with clothes and other products I just try my best to get the vegan option. like when I bought my sleeping bag I went with a poly fibre one, and when I bought my sleeping bag liner I went with a cotton one rather than silk.
the main thing is just do your best! I mean there are some people who would say I'm not vegan because my cat eats meat. but I mean, perfection is not my aim. I just want to live my life in a way that is wholesome for me.
im not a vegan but im a vegetarian who doesn't buy eggs or milk which results in veganized jiffy cornbread, tastes the same 
