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Dub flat 14 from Mr. Carlson!

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jca
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very cahj

Mar 15 2013 8:26PM
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Mr.Mitten
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That was a very nice looking dub. I am quite pleased
Mar 15 2013 8:33PM
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Lucas
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That's a 10 unless your talking about the dub cork. Nice effort though.
Mar 15 2013 8:34PM
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danbrown
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dats a ten doeee
Mar 15 2013 8:34PM
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SpliffyJ
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Stylish dubs over triples any day
Mar 15 2013 8:46PM
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jca
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count your rotations boiiis! i thought it was a 10 at first too. First landed dub flat 14? I've never seen one before.
Mar 15 2013 8:51PM
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Lucas
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I've watched it multiple times it's a 10. You obviously don't understand how rediculous a 14 would be/look.
Mar 15 2013 8:58PM
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auski
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There's a video of some kid doing a dub flat 14 that he doesn't quite land.. Looks nothing like sammy's, which is a 10
Mar 15 2013 9:00PM
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zbphoto
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Took me a while to see the 3rd of 4 360's. Sammy is on fire this season!
Mar 15 2013 9:01PM
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jca
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count it out man, he does a flat 3, a flat 630 ish, then another 450ish. dub flat 10s are usually just dub flat 9s with a 180 added on.
Mar 15 2013 9:03PM
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bighomieflock
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It's a 14 blind person
Mar 15 2013 9:07PM
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DIX~
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How the fuck do people think this is a 14?
Mar 15 2013 9:15PM
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DIX~
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Also dub cork 14s have to be the stupidest looking trick ever, Gus is the only one who can do it without full aerials steeze. It's sick, especially in the backcountry but just looks ugly every time
Mar 15 2013 9:17PM
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ohboy
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Y'all are on some weird-ass crack if you think this is a 14...Count the rotations please. Flat 360, to Flat 450, to straight 270 out. Pause after each flip, and tell me that is not how it happens. Because I am 99% sure that is how the trick would be split apart.

360+450+270 = 1080
Mar 15 2013 9:19PM
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El_Barto.
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The hit in the sun is a 10. The hit in the shade is a 14 i think. Its kinda hard to see.

Or did i fuck that up?
Mar 15 2013 9:24PM
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jca
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i think you guys not seeing the 14 are missing the 3rd 360 in there. a dub flat 7 is essentially a double offaxis backflip (it isn't really but for the sake of this discussion and how most people throw them we'll call it that). he clearly does a single flat 3 into a flat 5 (really more of a 630 but for the sake of simplicity we'll call it a 5). then does a straight up 540 out of the second flat spin.

watch some dub flat 7s, 9s and 10s then come back.
Mar 15 2013 10:05PM
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wild.
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perfect propulsion of the jump and an exquisite spin and flip thoroughly enjoyable
Mar 15 2013 10:19PM
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PhilboydStudge
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Yeah no, definitely a 10. Sorry homie
Mar 15 2013 10:21PM
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Nessie
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14.
Mar 15 2013 10:25PM
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DBL
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Here's how I see it, in simplified manners: Flat 3+Flat 5+180=dub flat 10.
The first flat 3 is kinda weird, which makes everything else look off.

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Mar 15 2013 10:26PM
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edai
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Thank you! It's fucking shameful that people are questioning this...stupid amatuers
Mar 15 2013 10:32PM
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BieberHole69
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I am so confused as to where this 14 is coming from. Fuck counting flips, I'm going to straight basics now: I see the tips of his skis facing forward 3 times.
Mar 15 2013 10:38PM
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jake_tom_sully
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Mar 15 2013 10:38PM
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KillaSteeze
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That was definitely a 10
Mar 15 2013 11:48PM
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jca
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na, you still missed a 360 in there.

ill upload my own to show what i see.

i guarantee it's a 14.
Mar 15 2013 11:49PM
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muel
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That was a dub 14
Mar 15 2013 11:58PM
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ski0
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I guarantee you suck at counting
Mar 15 2013 11:59PM
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nickev
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hahaha stupid son of a bitch omg
Mar 16 2013 12:01AM
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eheath
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First trick is a 10 (flat 3 + flat/rodeo 7) second is a 14 (cork 7 + cork 7)
Mar 16 2013 12:02AM
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jca
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he opens from his second flip early to spin so i could see how it looks like a 10. but notice how he's backwards as he ends the second flip? that is a double flat 9 (he then does a 540..) similar to how tim durtschi did his over pyramid. i remember people trying to say his was a double rodeo 5 because of how he rotated during his flip making it look like he's only rotating 540 degrees.

Mar 16 2013 12:05AM
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jake_tom_sully
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theres definitely not a discrepancy over which shot because that one kid posted a video of the flatspin shot and OP would have figured it out. I'm calling troll or OP is literally the dumbest personal alive
Mar 16 2013 12:06AM
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jca
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haha you guys just wait
Mar 16 2013 12:41AM
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*TURBONERD*
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All y'all saying this is a dub 14 are in fucking YMR or some shit.
Mar 16 2013 1:04AM
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BASEDRILEY
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You guys its a 14. Its really hard to see but its there im going to make a slo mo version counting the rotations correctly. Its a flat 3 into a flat 10. I think you guys might be forgetting to count the flip as part of the rotation

Mar 16 2013 1:09AM
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jca
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this guy's got it! i have a video being processed right now, which i think is fairly clear and straight forward.
Mar 16 2013 1:17AM
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Mtougas
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I see a 1080.
Mar 16 2013 1:20AM
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BASEDRILEY
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when he comes around at what you think is 7 he is really at 10 there is a 360 kind of hidden between the flips that goes unnoticed unless you are REALLY looking for it.
Mar 16 2013 1:20AM
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jca
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There ya go.
Mar 16 2013 1:21AM
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Ksteez666
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how can you think after watching the slow mo that its a 14? clearly a 10
Mar 16 2013 1:25AM
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AGOF
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so i love sammys skiing, but thats a dub flat 10, what you said in that video is that a truly flatspin is impossible, which isnt true
Mar 16 2013 1:26AM
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Ksteez666
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and that video is just completely wrong and the stupidest thing i have ever seen
Mar 16 2013 1:28AM
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john7elway
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You are a dumb mother fucker. He does two flat 3s and then a 360 after, well more liek 270 since he was at 90 or so already after the dub.
Mar 16 2013 1:29AM
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jca
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im sorry that you don't understand.
Mar 16 2013 1:29AM
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PhilboydStudge
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This thread is dildos
Mar 16 2013 1:32AM
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jca
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find a video of a double flat 720 that has actual spinning in it. compare it to what you are calling a dub flat 7.
Mar 16 2013 1:32AM
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jKutcher
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Really sick dub flat 10
Mar 16 2013 1:33AM
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eheath
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Mar 16 2013 1:33AM
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Ksteez666
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im sorry you don't get that its a dub flat 10

simplified: flat 3 + flat 3 +3 = dub flat 1080!!!
Mar 16 2013 1:33AM
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john7elway
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but he doesn't spin you thick skulled mother fucker.
Mar 16 2013 1:34AM
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jca
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i wrote that too fast..\

find a video of a double flat 7. and compare it to what you are calling a dub flat 7 in sammy's video.

you wont find one because you can't actually spin during a dub flat 7 or single flat 3.

go to the second part of the rotation from where he enters the second flip to slightly before where i paused it and he's still off axis a bit but backwards in the air. if he were to remain in a ball and widen his stance and there was a theoretical step up landing there, that would be called a flat maybe even bio 5. if you take the trick from the beginning to my hypothetical step up landing there, in most you your guys' minds would that be a double flat 9? or a double flat 5 or some shit that you guys are alluding to? dub flat 5s are impossible yo.
Mar 16 2013 1:38AM
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john7elway
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dude, it doesnt matter what his EXACT position is, he still ONLY DOES A FUCKING 720. You keep adding another 360 and its not there dude. how fucking blazed are you?
Mar 16 2013 1:40AM
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