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Wait but you think your way is better... What makes what im saying any worse than what youre saying. You are pretty much telling me that because you think you are right, I am not entitled to my own opinion. Which, in aaall of my experience is #typicalliberal

Mar 10 2013 8:07PM

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EmperorKuzco

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The thing is I dont think Im better than anyone, some just need to see the light.

Mar 10 2013 8:10PM

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If a Democrat doesn't want a gay marriage, he won't get one.
If a Republican doesn't want a gay marriage, he wants all gay marriages outlawed.

Mar 10 2013 8:14PM

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they already are in most places...

Mar 10 2013 8:20PM

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Yea, like every single liberal retard out there. Keep living in the dark you dumb socialist.

Mar 10 2013 8:40PM

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Hah

Mar 10 2013 8:45PM

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Come on man you are one of the most respected members in my eyes on the site and then you post this crap. Republicans hate gay marriage, and don't want it they're not secretive about their life they try to out law it. Also Republicans lost the last election and now they're trying to reshape their entire platform. Did you see them all stand up clap and smile when they were talking about illegal immigration. I really don't know how you can believe Democrats are that extreme and Republicans are that laid-back they're both pretty bad. I know a lot of Republicans that would love America to be a Christian nation and try to force it on people.

Mar 10 2013 8:58PM

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Typical skidmark liberal.

Mar 10 2013 9:02PM

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It would be pretty easy to make one of these where the republicans look like extremists and democrats look reasonable...

Mar 10 2013 10:39PM

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Zimmerman

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Lol this thread is a joke. It isn't even centered around an issue.

Mar 10 2013 10:42PM

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Then do it. For all of the same topics presented in that one ^ except for gay marriage which is bullshit and seriously an embarassing that anyone would think its a choice.

Mar 10 2013 11:00PM

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No it wouldn't, you're just retarded.

Mar 10 2013 11:01PM

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Democrats arent dumb, they leech of the systematic tyranny of the poor majority in order to get themselves jobs at the expense of people who have the talent to provide a service. They are fucking scumbags but they are not stupid, well not politically stupid. The democratic politician is essentially inferior to the millionare who works with technology. And democratic followers are essentially leaches themselves as well, wishing for a system in which they get their iphone and at the same time crucify the rich people who make the iphone

Mar 10 2013 11:04PM

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Not really. Care to try?

Mar 10 2013 11:07PM

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Zimmerman

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Too much herp derp in here. Sayonara!

I don't belong or follow either party by the way.

Mar 10 2013 11:08PM

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Ron paul then? Or are you stupid nonetheless?

Mar 10 2013 11:13PM

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Yup

Mar 10 2013 11:16PM

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Like california? Haha

Mar 10 2013 11:19PM

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True dat ^

I think we should just abolish political parties so the individuals of our country can vote based on the issues that are most important to themselves without the influence of political parties. Then maybe this country (USA) could get something done instead of fighting for the majority to overrule the opposing party.

Political parties present us with a never ending political stalemate if you ask me.

Mar 10 2013 11:43PM

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I can honestly say that this isn't true; at least for me and the other conservatives I know. I honestly can't stand extremists on either side of the political fence. When I hear a conservative say something racist or hateful against any group, I cringe, because it makes us all look insane.

Like I said in another post, the polls show that most people in country believe that gay couples should have the same rights the hetero couples have. That's where I stand too. Where it gets sticky is in calling it "marriage". It may sound trivial to some, but plenty of people have issues with that, and that is reflected in national polls. Someone may say that they are opposed to gay marriage, but that doesn't mean that they are opposed to gay unions.

Marco Rubio is the guy who started the push within the Republican Party for immigration reform. His parents were Cuban immigrants at a time when Fidel Castro was taking his worst criminals out of Cuban prisons and sending them in boats to Florida. He understands the complexities. You have to figure out a way to help people become U.S. citizens, but you have to be fair about it and you can't just let anyone and everyone cross the boarder. There are people waiting to immigrate to the U.S. legally. It's not fair that they have to wait while millions sneak through the back door. Not everyone crossing the southern boarder into the U.S. is doing it because they want a better life here.

Bottom line is that I posted that because the thread was about Democrats and I thought the Foxworthy's take on it was pretty funny. I think anyone who forces there views on anyone else is fucked. Discussing and sometimes arguing about things is OK. I carpool up to the mountains every weekend with a great friend who is a democrat and I haven't kicked him out of my car yet, but I did make him ride on the ski rack once.

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Moderates = good
Extremists = bad
Gay unions = good
Gay "marriage" = not as good
Immigration = good
Open boarder = bad
Political discussion = good to a point
Forcing agenda on others = always bad. (even if your idea is good, it will blow up in your face)

I hope I never come across as trying to force my opinions on anyone here, or anywhere for that matter. I also don't want to cheapen NS, by censoring myself too much. The best thing about NS is that it's raw. There are tons of things that people post that piss me off, but then I realize that this is exactly why I love it. If you don't like what someone posted, give it a negative. If you don't like what I posted, give me 0/10 or call me a fuckhead. Just keep it real.

Mar 10 2013 11:43PM

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Reagan was a complete cumdumpster

Mar 11 2013 12:22AM

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Reagan turned a recession into a boom in no time flat

Mar 11 2013 12:47AM

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Not to mention how he handled that hostage situation so fast.

Mar 11 2013 12:51AM

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I am so sick of hearing the arguments about how he helped or made it slower so stop.

Mar 11 2013 1:21AM

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THIS is the perfect example of the issue in politics today. People associate on one side or the other. Each person has different social/political views. Those who are a part of the GOP do not all vote against gay marriage, or oppose looser immigration laws. You are gaining knowledge from the media, which portrays both extreme views on the spectrum. So while you sit at home listening to how a racist/christian Southerner Republican claims god "intended for girls to be raped," you're forgetting that he literally represents less than 1% of the GOP's opinion. You claim you know a lot of republicans that would love to be a christian nation. I know a lot of democrats that would say that. So before you make stupid remarks, think. For once.

Mar 11 2013 1:49AM

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Republicans want more government involvement in social issues and less government involvement in economic issues. Democrats are the exact opposite. So in a sense you are always grouping people who believe in a certain political ideology. However it is a spectrum from left to right so yes you do have outliers who believe in more extreme views but over all it all comes down to what the "thinker" thinks is human nature.

Mar 11 2013 2:14AM

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Yes, I agree that a two party system is shit, but as of now I agree with the majority of the democrats opinions on social, foreign (except drone strikes), and economic policies. Thats why I identify as a democrat, if there was a party that more thouroghly held my beliefs, then I would side with them. However, if you vote for the GOP you are voting for what they believe in, regardless of whether you do. If you voted for Mitt Romney, then you voted against gay marriage, and for stricter immigration laws.

I don't know any liberal (and I live in portland, I know a lot of liberals) that thinks the United States should become a christian nation. Also, you know the super bigoted 1% "Southerner Republican" you mentioned? People like him comprise the tea party, which has been pulling the republicans to the right since its inception. I don't think that anybody says that all republicans have the extremist viewpoint, but the party as a whole does, because they need to pander to the far right to get both.

On another note, In my opinion, In about twenty or so years, the republican party will have all but disappeared, the democrats will move more to the center of the spectrum, and another party like the green party, will take over the liberal spot from the democrats.

Mar 11 2013 2:31AM

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yeah no shit democrats force things on people so do republicans, but that posted i quoted made it seem like one party did all the forcing and the other does nothing wrong.

Mar 11 2013 2:39AM

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Not at all. I just don't believe in political parties. I'll vote for what I believe in, not what a party endorses.

Mar 11 2013 6:37AM

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Maybe not for those topics specifically, but you could easily do it for others. Both sides have their extremists, presenting it any other way just shows bias.

Mar 11 2013 7:43AM

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There are plenty of extremist idiot republicans and conservatives. But those topics are pretty much the core of the liberal agenda. And republicans want to protect the constitution, and the democrats feel as if they can bend it and rewrite it however they want. Which is not what the constitution is for.

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Mar 11 2013 9:22AM

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Mr.Huck

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Hahahahahahaha! Flawless utilization of muppets!

Mar 11 2013 10:14AM

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let's think about the Reagan Era...

-supply-side economics=FAILURE

-Iran-Contra Affair-Lies, deceptions, selling weapons to Iran to fight an illegal war in Central America

-Economic crash of 1987

-deregulation

-extreme tax breaks for corporations/rich

-"The Enterprise" (North, {Poindexter, etc.)

-anti-communism mentality (and going to war (illegally)against any country trying to implement it

-EPA cuts/ deregulating any green/environmental policies

the only good perspective Reagan had was keeping his hands off of Immigration Reform

Mar 11 2013 10:30AM

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dtn13

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did you forget about the 1987 financial crisis? please, supply-side economics were and always will be a joke

Mar 11 2013 10:32AM

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Saying "the democrats" want to change the constitution to say whatever they want is a pretty big generalization, but okay.

Why is that not what the constitution is for? It's purpose is to protect our freedoms. It's an imperfect document. It's been amended plenty of times in the past, and it's naive to think it's unassailable

Mar 11 2013 10:32AM

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I should have said taking away our constitutional rights. Not just changing them.

Mar 11 2013 10:34AM

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Even so. Slavery used to be a constitutional right. It got taken away. The main thing now seems to be guns. Is is the same? Obviously not. I'm not particularly pro-gun; I think they should be better regulated, but by no means do I think they should be banned altogether. But it's stupid to dismiss anyone who wants to ban guns outright and brand them as someone who wants to destroy the country and let the government enslave us all. That's a little facetious but i've seen plenty of people who say things very similar to it. If you disagree with banning guns, fine, but there's no need to say that everyone who wants to ban guns obviously hates america and wants to burn the constitution.

Mar 11 2013 10:46AM

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Not sure where you are buying your coolaid from, but you have no clue. Reagan inherited a shit sandwich from Jimmy Carter. He turned it around and the 1987 financial crisis was a hiccup in the overall scheme of things. It was a significant correction, but most mutual funds still finished positive for the year. That correction had nothing to do with Reagan's policies. Reagan proved that you can decrease tax rates and stimulate economic growth. If you have more money, you spend more. It's pretty tough to argue with that one.

Also, If it weren't for him, we never would have gotten the hostages back from Iran, the Berlin Wall would still be up and Russia would still be the USSR.

The idea that you can tax the crap out of people and that will somehow make things better is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Show me one country on the planet that has had sustained economic growth to rival the U.S. with high tax rates. They would also have to have similar rates of immigration, because that is a huge factor.

Mar 11 2013 11:05AM

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Mar 11 2013 11:12AM

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What you don't believe me?

Mar 11 2013 11:27AM

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if ANYTHING, its the opposite, republicans dont want to change social issues, frankly i dont think many of us care at all (cept for homo marraige, but thats mostly religious people). and the only reason we care about the economy is because we stand for lower taxes and less government spending.

Mar 11 2013 11:33AM

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REGULATE THE INTERWEBZ!!!!!

Mar 11 2013 12:28PM

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fuck bitches!!!!11!!!

Mar 11 2013 12:33PM

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You're an idiot.

Mar 11 2013 12:51PM

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Reagan and W 2 were some of the biggest spenders in U.S. history. All of a sudden a black guy does it and its the end of the world.

Mar 11 2013 12:55PM

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You know nothing. Read any political science book. Or research the differences in modern consevatism and modern liberalism in america. You may find that you are more liberal then you think.

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