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Buying a pair of Surefoot full custom boots ?

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wimms
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Hello,

I am trying to determine whether i should get a pair of surefoot boots made for myself or not. I have very strange feet, wide at the last, but more narrow in the ankle. so finding a boot off the shelf doesnt ever rlly work for me. My friend told me i should do surefoot, but after reading reviews online, i find myself at a predicament regarding whether the boot i get made will actually be comfortable. Please any input is helpful, specially if you are riding a pair of surefoot boots.

thank you for your help !


Jan 20 2013 10:37PM
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50Kal
Posts: 2826 - Karma: 5,367
Re post in regionals and ask for good boot fitter locations. Surefoot is good, but you should be able to find a better fitter if your in an area.  Surefoot is always trying to get people in the top of the line gear.
(at least  it feels like that when I've been there)
Jan 21 2013 1:10AM
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7springsprod
Posts: 2661 - Karma: 3,181
There are also fully custom Daleboots.

http://www.dalebootusa.com/root.html

(Sorry no clicky, on mobile)

Jan 21 2013 1:23AM
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tomPietrowski
Posts: 7099 - Karma: 17,043
Dont do the surefoot thing, sure there boots are just what any shop sell and you could get a sidas liner in most shops too, but where they are not good is footbeds. The Amfits surefoot use are pretty terrible. I have a bucket full of ones I have had to replace this season alone.

So dont bother with surefoot. Find a really good fitter who can offer Sidas products and has a good selection of boots. He should be able to get you in a much better boot then Surefoot can offer
Jan 21 2013 2:05PM
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freeballer
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Surefoots are not really that comfortable, but they offer the best performance if you get the foam injected liner.  Basically, the foam fills all the extra space between the liner and shell of the boot.  They are the titties for skiing.  There is no slop and your heel will be held in place better than any other boot/liner combination.  They cost a lot of money though, but if that is not an issue, I highly recommend Surefoot.

As for their footbeds, I have to disagree with the guy above me.  I've had a lot of their footbeds and they are the best IMHO.  You step on this machine that takes a scan of your exact foot, then the footbed is milled out to match your exact bottom of your foot.  No other footbed companies to this that I know of.  I wouldn't ski anything but a Surefoot footbed. 

A lot of people might disagree with me, but I think that if you have the money to spend, Surefoot boots, liners, and footbeds are the absolute best.  I do think that they might be overpriced for some people, but if you live in your ski boots, they are the absolute titties.  Who doesn't like titties?
Jan 21 2013 3:13PM
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onenerdykid
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Their footbeds might work for you, but you're an exception. I agree with Tom here- their footbeds usually cause more problems than they solve and their scanning process is just smoke and mirrors. I've had to replace so many of them during my tenure as a boot-fitter because their footbed was the source of the problem.
Jan 21 2013 3:30PM
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schism
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Try the Fischer Vaccum fit boots. In my opinion they're more custom than a surefoot custom boot.
Jan 21 2013 3:45PM
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AJizzle
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A couple of the problems that I see from sure foot are; their foot scanning process doesn't work nearly as well as actually using someone's foot and a skilled fitter to build a proper footbed, they put intermediates in way too stiff of a boot, and many people who just got to surefoot because they are told they are the "best" and don't need the prcise fit of a full custom closed cell liner, and would enjoy a shitty open cell soft liner more.
Jan 21 2013 5:56PM
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AJizzle
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Wow... Just re read, that is terrible grammar.
Jan 21 2013 5:57PM
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Session
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It's my understanding that all Surefoot really does is sell rich gapers oversized shells, then foam the shit out of them to make them comfortable.
Jan 21 2013 5:58PM
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wimms
Posts: 7 - Karma: 19
I was definately expecting there to be some mixed reviews. I just want a comfortable freaken boot! Money is not an option at ALL when it comes to my comfort on the ski hill, atm i have a very comfortable spk kaos boot but i get alot of ankle rise, is there a way i can fix that boot to make the ankle rise less ? since the shell fits be perfectly, should i maybe go and buy a custom liner ? I am going up to whistler this weekend on friday- i will be doing one thing or the other, and kinda need to decide. Please help me decide ! and any options to stop the ankle rise in my boots now aswell would help if people think that is a better optoon.
Jan 21 2013 11:18PM
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FUUUCK
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3rd season in my surefoots and I'm still loving them.

In the past I've always had a lot of trouble getting boots to fit right, they were either way too tight, or I had shin bang, but not anymore.

I've had no issues whatsoever with the footbed as others have mentioned, in fact they've out lasted my orthotics I received from the my doctor.

The liner is the best I've ever used (blows my old intuitions out of the water) and still hasn't packed out after 180+ days of use.
Jan 21 2013 11:52PM
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tomPietrowski
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You are in luck mate, Im actually one of the boot fitters at the salomon shop in whistler. Bring your boots in and Ill see what I can do to get them fitting better. Its finally going to snow tommorow too so you should have some good snow.
Jan 22 2013 2:48AM
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LC.
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...and you used to work for Surefoot, right? Genuine question: does the company totally brainwash you into thinking that their product is "the best" while you're employed, or are staff deliberately told to bullshit about the product? Dude in Surefoot Whistler in 2005/2006 went on a huge rant to me one time while I was there swapping some stock with them because he'd heard our shop had been badmouthing their product.
Jan 22 2013 9:56AM
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tomPietrowski
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^no i have never worked for them, but from what I understand they really do push there way of doing things as the only way it should be done. Lets be honest stock liners now are very good, so really there is no need to put a foam liner in every boot. But you ask surefoot they will tell you its the only way to go.

I changed a set of liners and footbeds today from surefoot for one of our team riders. They can work well for some people but in general they are not as good as what most shops can offer, well any good shop anyway.
Jan 22 2013 10:18PM
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Skiingsnow
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I have sure foots and i know a lot of other people with them whos feet have been fucked up from them, i have not a had a single problem, after well over 100 days in them now and they are still super comfy, i guess im one of the lucky ones. not sure about the footbeds though, they dont seem to do a whole lot.

I went from a 27.5 dalbello krypton with intuition liner to a 26.5 lange rs140 surefoot liner.
Jan 22 2013 11:40PM
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Ducky.
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A Surefoot boot sounds perfect for you. Those who are saying that they arn't comfortable are probably kids with Full Tilts 2 sizes to big for them. I have a full custom boot from Surefoot and they are the best boot I have ever had. Performance wise, they are spectacular. And I can ski all day and not worry about my feet hurting one bit. Go for a Surefoot boot, you won't be disappointed.
Jan 23 2013 12:48AM
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wimms
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My brother ended up taking me to fanatyk co. I got fitted into a pair of noridca transfire r1's, they punched the bot out in the last to meet my width, and i have awesome heel retention in the boot, however on one of my feet, my second toe is longer then my big one, so the stock liner i dont think will do as after skiing nothing hurt but my toe! I think i will be purchasing a pair of intuition liners to be molded to my feet so that this is no longer the case, I realized a huge difference in performance, and the boot was awesome for the first time skiing them ! Thanks fanatyk co. Will update as soon as i get my intuition liners in regards to whether it helped my toe or not, i am also hoping i do not loose the heel retention i get in my liner now, aswell i am hoping the shin area in the intuition liner is more comfortable then the stock as i was getting some tongue pain along my shin from the stock aswell. If anyone has any ideas on the intuition liner please feel free to post ! + karma.
Jan 28 2013 1:51AM
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libertyskis
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They put me in the smallest boot possible. I wear a 9.5 street shoe, and I'm in a 25 shell with a BSL of 290.  So what you are saying has not been my, nor any of my buddies experience.
Jan 28 2013 1:00PM
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Skiingsnow
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yea im a UK 10 shoe and have a boot size 26.5 306mm
Jan 28 2013 10:00PM
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Mdejournette
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I would highly recommend getting Surefoot boots. What they do is put you into a subtler neutral position. Its the strongest position your foot can be in. They put you into that position and scan your foot. It gives you the proper support for your arches holding you into place. The Cusom Liner fills in the extra space and giving you room in the places needed. So its not to loose or to tight. A stock liner that comes with a boot is normally very tight for a proper size boot. Most boot fitters will go up in a size making the boot the wrong size because its more comfortable during the fit. 20-30 days later your swimming in the boot and going back to the fitter either getting pads to make up for the volume or trying to get a smaller boot. The Boot fitters at Surefoot are very knowledgable and won't lead you into a wrong boot. They ask all about your skiing history, where you like to ski on the mountain, what type of skier you are. They pick the shell that is best for you based on your Instep, Last, & Skier ability. Then they pick one of the three liners that best works for you. From day one the boots are ready to go and there is no break in period. You get amazing comfort and performance. I would highly recommend going into one of the shops and seeing what its all about.
Nov 22 2013 2:50PM
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halfpipedream
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Surefoot Killington - YES!!!!

Surefoot Summit County/Vail - NO!!!!!

all depends where you go

I got custom boots done by a foot doctor one time... he canted them but failed to build the base back up to the proper industry standard so there wasnt enough plastic to hold my toepiece in the binding and I kept popping out at really bad times. glad I didn't die.
Nov 22 2013 3:15PM
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