FD Wear Ads

I love pounding a good tranny. With my skis.

because youre browsing tranny.org


duh

It's getting pretty annoying

my main problem with the ads is the lack of tits on all the models

Tell us your age, and that will give you your answer.

thank god they seem to be going away finally...

i generally take this stand, being someone who's tattooed and doesn't dress her age, but i think it's a little pathetic. i'm fine with sexuality, i follow porn stars blogs, and it always amazed me how little most of them talk about sex. but i think the point is irrelevant to what your job is. the point is raising the question as to why is it so very important for an outerwear company, that specifically caters it's garments to men, think they need to use sexually provocative women in an ad campaign. i know on this site it's pretty much beating a dead horse, and standing up against a sexist ad makes you the fat, stupid, ugly person, but come on. it's a lame ad. calvin klein did it first, it's been beaten to death, every pun imaginable intended, and i think it fucking sucks.

there are kids on this site. fine and dandy when you don't live with your parents to peruse a site that has nudity on it, but until then, i think it should be a little more respectable. imo, if they're not going to sell me skiing, then i don't want to buy their shit, and that's what it comes down to. your ads sell your lifestyle, because you're selling your lifestyle product. if you want to sell me sexy women, then i'm going to assume you're selling me misogyny. there's a mature way to approach nudity, and a proper way to address sex and imo women and only ever women naked in ads isnt the way of going about it. we should be comfortable with the naked body, but i think the fact remains that north america is too immature to understand the difference, and i think it's pathetic.

naked women doesn't make you cool, all means in the eye of a 15 year old it might, but in the grand scheme, this a bi gender website, and saying 'well if you dont like it leave' is your prerogative then fine, but that's business that's easily kept or added based on something as fucking silly as a pair of tits or side vagina. you want to treat female skiers with respect, then treat them like fully clothed human beings. i'd love to see what a pro rider thinks of the ad, how many women riders don't care, and etc.

saying no to that ad doesn't make you a square. it just means you fully respect your entire community.

Jumping the gun a bit. There isn't any more nudity in these ads than there is in a PG-13 movie.

How many fucks David Lesh gives about your opinion on the FD ads:

If there's a parody I'm missing it.

Like Bishop said, it's not up to NS to make sure that "the children" (or anybody) is growing up in a clean, sanctimonious environment. The internet is not that way, has never been that way, and also never ever will be that way.

I have installed Ghostery (which is a combination ad blocker, tracking denier for Firefox, it rules) so I don't see these ads unless I'm on a machine besides my desktop.

But these women chose to be in the shoot. Just like there are guys on here with pictures making them out to be white boy thugs with their asses hanging out smoking weed and generally not giving a fuck. I'd say most of the time neither gender is represented in an ideal fashion. Not everyone represents their gender well, and they don't have to either. I realize it can perpetuate gender roles -- but really?-- can you expect NS to lead the charge on here and courageously rework gender theory for a more equitable e-world. No, you can't. And you shouldn't. I also think it's a bit of an over-extension to say "sell sexy women means selling misogyny." Males are stereotyped all the time in magazine and there's been a fair amount of writing done lately about the unachievable male body and how young guys will exercise themselves into oblivion, take steroids, etc. I'm not saying it's on the same level of female objectification, but no gender is safe here.

While, I agree on an intellectual level it can be in poor taste. But it's really something I'm not going to worry about. I will worry about how well I can treat women (and humans in general) because that's what I can do. There are plenty of female members on here I respect a ton. And all told, I'm not going to let a woman in a jacket and undies tell me how to treat or think about women.

Its really not a big deal, i use my iPad in school but when i have my laptop after school doing something and NS is up like it almost always is, the ads are a bit much

ad block people, i got sick of looking at them and was forced to do it

The was a whole deal about no more nsfw content, and then they reversed this and decided they shouldn't cater their entire website to kids who aren't allowed to see tits.

Not the case anymore - we reversed this rule after the FD campaign started.

so it was money that made the decision? isn't that white washing in a different form?

Ugh these ads are so annoying, what a joke of a company, and NS is just as bad for promoting this BS.

i think that excuse is a poor way to direct blame elsewhere. obviously it's a parents job to raise their kids with ethics and etc, but i personally think society lacks any personal ans social responsibility. no one wants to be responsible for what the youth learn or are taught, but the reality is, that every aspect in your life, plays a role, and without proper parenting, or rearing, or just plain guidance, people make stupid decisions. and that's a whole other can of worms.

i personally don't like that, and i do understand that people scoff at that mentality. but it doesn't phase me if someone thinks being responsible for my actions makes me a loser, because i don't think it does.

women always perpetuate stereotypes, or objectification, and it's a matter of why does it happen. there's two spectrums if you ask me, one is of women who understand sexuality, and their right to use it, and the other, is full of women who think it's cool - in other words, use their sexuality to impress men to feel better about themselves. nothing to do with how it reflects themselves. i mean, the whole slut shaming thing is such a catch 22, but it's because sexuality is fine, if you do it for yourself, and not to impress everyone. and that's where i get annoyed.

i think people do not at all, in the least, understand the impact of these types of advertisements. and yes, you will have a small percentage who aren't affected, but there are many who are going to take this the wrong way, and therein lies the problem. you can at the end of the day raise someone to think a certain way, but if they're bombarded with enough imagery, or propaganda, or just what we consider to be social norms, it won't necessarily matter what they were taught. people will still be made insecure by these ads, and why is that? well it's a huge issue, because it has to do with how the internet is treated; not seriously. and i feel like society is the same. no one takes anything seriously, and not in the utopian way it should be, but rather in a negative way. no one cares about anyone else, and that comes back to social and personal responsibility. basically what i'm saying is men and women alike, are shown images of who they should be and act, and it's unrealistic, and most everyone is affected physically, and mentally by it.


basically, i don't buy the don't take the internet seriously opinion, because it's false. and i don't fully blame media for the way we shape society and the individual, but it is also false to deny it's responsibility. everything you see everyday, will shape you, especially if you're an impressionable person. and this isn't a competition. objectification and stereotyping happens to both genders, and if you don't like it, you should change something about what you see, what you produce, and what you live. but people are fucking lazy.

it all comes down to, this was a lame campaign, and if first drop wants to continue using it, fine, but as someone said to me "they're just going to shoot themselves in the foot."

why is that? because big companies use skiing to advertise skiing, not attention grabbing foolishness.

let me put it this way, you may think that photo your dad hung never affect you, but your drunk commentary dictates otherwise. with all due respect.

A couple of things first.

I think you tried to call me out for being drunk, making excuses, and referencing a photo my dad hung?

I don't know if you have me confused with someone else in this thread, but I did not write my response drunk. At all.

I don't know what photo you think my dad hung, or if that is a hypothetical, but my father is a stand up guy who has instilled nothing but respect in me for women.

I could go on and rip you apart for having disgusting run on sentences, failing to cite anything, failure to clarify some of your positions and how they relate to mine, and also for the "girls are like crows, they like shiny things" quote in your signature as being ironic because you're speaking about the problems of objectification of women and stereotyping of gender.

But I won't. I don't think that's going to help things here. I also think I agree with you in many ways, so, I'd rather have this be a productive conversations.

Let's continue this then...

I don't know what specifically you think I meant as an excuse because you didn't clarify in your post. I'm not excusing anything, I'm simply saying that its a little naive to attempt to hold a website, the internet, or its users to a high (perhaps even unachievable) standard of ethics.

If you were referring to my statement that what I do/will worry about is how I treat women as an excuse? Well, it's not. It's a fact. I am not able to single-handedly change many things. So I focus on my own behavior and try to lead by example. That's not an excuse. It's in perfect alignment with your saying you take responsibility for you actions, which is what I'm doing right now as well because I also believe in that. 

A lot of people say society lacks personal and social responsibility. It's a blanket statement. Thus, I don't find it particularly effective as criticism; it's amorphous, nebulous, and unclear. If this is a line of thought akin to "society's morals are decaying"--generation after generation after generation has said that. Do I not agree with you? No, it's not that either. But broadly stating society lacks responsibility is really a hard thing to pin down unless you use examples. Likewise, isolated incidences often fail to have the far reaching implications to verify such a claim. Do I agree with you though that there are real societal problems? Sure, absolutely. But it really frustrates me hearing these "decay of society" comments with nothing referenced, no articles, no studies, no patterns, no nothing, just society is falling apart. That does not, IMO, progress much of anything, it just accelerates the momentum of such a nebulous statement, regardless of its veracity.

I've studied media theory and gender theory, these topics are no strangers to me. So, as far as these ads go... yes, I have a pretty strong grasp of what they represent and can do.

"people will still be made insecure by these ads, and why is that? well it's a huge issue, because it has to do with how the internet is treated; not seriously. and I feel like society is the same. no one takes anything seriously, and not in the utopian way it should be, rather in a negative way. no one cares about anyone else, and that comes back to social and personal responsibility."-you

That could have clearer, no? I don't think treating the internet seriously is going to remedy this sort of thing. I think people care about each other and society (and the internet). That's why you and I are in this dialogue. This really isn't an argument against you, I'm sorry if it comes off as critical or detached. I am parsing what you've said, but that's because  I feel I agree with you in some ways. I really just wish you were more clear.

I'm not saying the internet is a big fat joke so lets go post boobs and dicks and gifs. But I don't find it reasonable to hold a website culpable to the degree I think you're asking. The mods here do a great job of balancing: keeping the site clean but allowing people their freedom of speech. I'm sure the FD ad line was a very difficult discussion for them.

It's not a campaign I was impressed by either. Aesthetics are sort of low on the totem pole in my opinion. I prefer to read up on fabrics, construction, and reviews. If anything their ad program has motivated me to never buy from them. That's a risk they were willing to take. But I have a feeling they're going after people younger and probably less educated than I am. Does it piss me off that that's the modus operandi they elect to motivate purchases? Yes. But is it their purview to decide what and how they will market their product? Yes.

You seem like a reasonable and conscientious person, which I admire. But I do ask you be more clear and not mention my dad :)

Honestly this has gotten out of control. The ads are unbelievable distracting and truly degrade the user experience. I am embarrassed to show the site to non-nsers with these ads. Girls are complete trash.

i def didn't direct that at you. congrats on winning the internet. i'm done with this thread since the orange name above my post is pretty dead on on how i feel.

so true. at least with the above Lange ad, the girl is actually fucking SKIING. the girl(s) in the FD ads are only wearing suspenders. I can't even tell what jacket is trying to be promoted. fucking lame. ad block on.

someone just got defeated

i feel like everyone is over-thinking this a bit to much,
just chill out, no need to get upset.

Mostly this. The girls are really not attractive.

For example, whatever is going on here:



I don't even notice the ads anymore - however everything about FD is visually terrible, and every ad they have ever run has sorta fucked my NS experience in one way or another.

It's mostly because of photos that make the girls look trashy, and bad design though.

Of course if that's how they want to try and promote their brand, they can go right ahead. It doesn't give me a positive perception of them.

And I too am seeing them somewhere around 50 percent of the time.

Sometimes I will refresh the page just so that they will go away, and occasionally I will have to refresh like 5x just to cycle through them.

HA

Wow.

I prefer the term lazy

my on beef is that spamming the same ad a million times gets annoying.

i can see where the OP is coming from, but all in all, almost every website that has a college age

but he's not wearing a bandana over his wang.... thank god.

Several thoughts along these lines:

This would be a great thing. It would prevent me from running ad block and never seeing the ads from any company and thus allow the other ads to bombard my subconscious. This is a good win-win for both users and NS, in my opine.

Or just get rid of the FD ads, seeing as those are the only annoying ones NS has ever had.

The point is more to make a lasting solution rather than a bandaid one. I'd rather see something that would work for future issues rather than having a three page argument every time there's an ad that people hate.

I'm bumping this because I want to hear from Bishop.

Only a day later but I like what you have to say and I too am curious as to what Bishop has to say. Beeeeump.

Thank you.

still haven't seen this ad, very curious. i just use adblock though

Their ad campaign probably ended, I'm sure its not the end of FD wear ads

Still wondering.

Oh god what a shit storm. Personally I can't really form much of an opinion on this argument because both sides have a decent argument. Threads for more.

Getting this argument in full on to the 2nd page. I would like to see this addressed as I am sure FD is saving up for future ads.

Take some notes first drop

bump for Bishop

vape world vaporizers ad?

...

Although the Ads are gone for now, the issue still remains, and David offered a pretty good solution to the problem.

Bump for Bishop, as his argument was there was no way to address this other than "white wash" the whole site, as he called it.

A solution has been proposed, and he conveniently disappeared from the conversation.