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What should my DIN be?

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jmasterp
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So I'm a ski instructor so I brought my skis to the local shop to get a tune up. When they returned them to me, the DIN was not changed. I got bigger this year and need to know what i should change my DIN to I:
Am an aggressive skier
lap the park nothing big
5'10 165-170
Thanks
Dec 8 2011 6:05PM
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onenerdykid
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I wish this information wasn't as big of a deal as it is.. but the reality is these kids are liable for what they say and they really need to be aware of it.

A DIN chart is only a first step in determining your DIN and it often does not correlate to the actual DIN that the binding will test out at. A release test NEEDS to be performed in order to know what your specific binding needs to be set at. For example, the chart says I should be at a 9.5 but my Dukes (at the time)required that the toe be set at 10 and the heel at 11 in order to get the torque factor that a DIN of 9.5 required. Simply because it is on the chart it does not mean that is what your binding will need to be set at. To determine your DIN, a proper release test needs to be performed.

Again, I wish this was like over here in Europe where it doesn't matter but everyone should know that in North America they are liable for what they say regarding recommending a DIN.
Dec 12 2011 2:14PM
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skithesprings
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Hoji rides at essentially a non release setting.

that being said, at 6'2" 180lbs and 335BSL I feel like my fks155's at 13 is essentially non release in all but the most extreme falls. works for me.
Dec 12 2011 2:38PM
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StReEtPIRATES
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I have gradually increased my din from 10 over the last few seasons, and ended up at 14. this is right where i dont get unnecesary releases, but pop out only when i need to.
Dec 12 2011 2:56PM
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Chompo.
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According to that I should be at a 6... My shop puts me at 10
Dec 12 2011 4:00PM
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californiagrown
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no he doesnt. he locks the toe out, and the heel is at a 12. hence, he essentially rides at a 12, maybe 13.


But CR used to ride with his skis maxed out in pow because he didnt like coming out in pow which was understandable. would be interesting to know whether his ski came off when he dry docked and tumbled into the rocks at squaw.
Dec 12 2011 10:29PM
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mscinto
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probally and 8-10 depending on the release you want
Dec 12 2011 10:49PM
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midwestmike
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This is absolutely wrong. My friend's dad is a ski area owner (big powderhorn in the UP of MI) and a rep for Marker and Tecnica. Bindings are engineering so you can set them anywhere you want in between the numbered din settings.

like .Jonathan said, dinsetting.com will tell you what you should have it at. If you ski park or pow, go with III+ for you ability. I did it and it told me to set it at an 8.5 which is perfect. I'm 5'8'' 175lbs and ski aggressively.

Don't give advice that is wrong/you're not sure of.
Dec 13 2011 12:57AM
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iffe
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That site gives me 9.5 and I run 8 and 9 on my park and pow skis, respectively. Be aware that it might give you a higher number than what you need.
Dec 13 2011 4:49AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Again, in total agreement, but I think the information should be at least out there and known. Recommendations are right out, no way in hell, and yes, you do need to go to a shop before doing anything, but knowing your personal DIN range and what you should be about at is a good thing to know, rather than just blindly cranking up the binding, as kids are doing now. I bet that just by better knowledge inhibiting the stupidity going on out there with posi drives, we'd see a lot less knee and leg injuries in freeskiing.
Dec 13 2011 11:40AM
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xkuza
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Convert your weight to Kilos and then divide it by 10.

I weigh 92kgs with my gear on, so i choose DIN between 9 and 10. Usually 9 pops my ski off when I start spinning, so for calm riding it is lower, for more aggressive i set 11, so skis wouldn't pop off while taking off a kicker. But as sometimes shit happens on flat surface, 11 din is twisting your knees while you lay on the ground, and that shite hurts. On greater impact skis just come off as normal.

And there is another league of big mountain chargers, who have their settings on 16 or even 18, so they won't lose their skis while rolling down billions of times.
Jan 3 2012 6:58AM
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Heart
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5'8" 130 pounds, DIN of 7 on griffons. what i've found works best is to start low, and only increase your din if you find yourself prereleasing. I've found 7 to be the perfect setting for me.

Don't be that dumbass who cranks their din all the way up. this kid i know cranked his din all the way up and derp he tore his acl. Saw another kid my size with his din at 12 (hes a park rat), terrible idea.
Jan 3 2012 5:39PM
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profa_212
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I'm 5' 10 and 135lbs. Mine is set at 7.
Jan 3 2012 6:00PM
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monkatizer
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im
5' 10" 115 lbs. bsl- 309mm
and my din is set at:
toe: 4
heel: 5

blowing a knee is the last thing i want to do
Jan 3 2012 6:27PM
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rozboon
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This is full of wrong, terrible and bad.

A 6' 5" person with a size 13 foot may need a COMPLETELY different DIN to a 5' 6" person with a size 8 foot, even if they weigh exactly the same.

And the people who run very high DINs do it so their skis don't fall off when they're on top of a no-fall cliff line, not to stop them coming off when they're ragdolling at the bottom of it.

Jan 3 2012 7:23PM
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rozboon
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Argh, double post... but I thought I should add, DIN (generally) isn't what causes knee injuries (particularly ACLs). I popped my knee in a slow, backwards twisting fall. There was nowhere near enough force in a direction my binding would release to get out of the skis. This is the whole point of the Knee Binding, normal bindings will not do a lateral heel release (even Pivot/FKS, they just pivot under the axis of your tibia when the toes release for less jarring)

A significant number of ACL injuries are beginner skiers riding rental skis with very conservative DINs. Having your DIN set WAY too high will increase your chance of injury but lowering your DIN isn't going to save you from ever injuring your knees. Having strong legs and learning to fall properly will be more good to you, but unfortunately it's a rather easy thing to do even in a very small fall.

Jan 3 2012 7:35PM
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pbandj
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how are you alive?
Jan 5 2012 2:21AM
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