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If First Drop made skis...

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Virtika
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If First Drop made skis.....

- what kind of skis would you want them to be- park? pow?
- what length would you prefer- 175ish? 185ish?
- what would you call them?
- what would the graphic look like?
Sep 2 2010 10:47PM
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Cow_Jibber
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WIN!!!

Bamboo is where it's at, On3p knows, if you're gonna make some skis, go for the bamboo core

Sep 3 2010 10:12AM
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muppehund
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Fat, rockered and playful park ski. Yes, just like Lizzy.
Sep 3 2010 10:19AM
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Bhblaine
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solid post
Sep 3 2010 10:40AM
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Algebra
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this but also not too fat park skis. likr 87mm waist
Sep 3 2010 10:45AM
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aquinn
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make line anthems please
Sep 3 2010 10:54AM
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steep
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,
Sep 3 2010 10:58AM
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BrownEyeIn
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1. Graphics -

for fuck sakes dont do anything to flashy, or gay as fuck like Salomon skis does, make it nice, maybe 2 colours, big logo, clean look.

I would say if anything take a look at 9thwards skis. This company nails graphics year after year with the best looking skis, hands down.

2. Flex

an OVERALL flex thats nice and even from tip to tail for presses, nollies, etc.

too many companies are making these gayass points past the bindings that are softer, so when your popping or spinning out of a press, your ski just flexes out when you really need to be locking the press.

3. Construction

Sidewall, i'd say is the best way to go, as far as cores go, I have no idea. Bamboo seems to be the trade nowadays, but at least send it with wood instead of shitty foam.

good luck.
Sep 3 2010 11:17AM
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BrownEyeIn
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Oh, as far as widths, sizes etc.

Park ski around 80 -90mm waist seems efficient, while a powder ski around 100 - 115 would be awesome.

Park ski lengths should probably be something like

170 - 174, 175 - 179, and 180 - 184

I would look at 170, 178, 184

Something that closes the gap between the 175 - 185 range in my mind is needed.

Alot of kids need a 175 ski and arent willing to bump up to something past 180.


Sep 3 2010 11:20AM
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Ryanvdonk
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183, symmetrical, 86 underfoot and flex like a race ski. come on dave, you ski summit, you know you want a stiff park ski for the big lines at breck and key, say no to noodles
Sep 3 2010 11:38AM
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king.tubby
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189 length.
dimensions something like 140/115/130.
mostly rockered with a tiny bit of camber underfoot.
light weight.
bamboo core.
poppy.
burly edges.
some sort of island/ tropical themed top sheets
called the aloha
Sep 3 2010 11:44AM
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pjbauer
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a symmetrical park ski!
Sep 3 2010 11:47AM
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LMPJibbin
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rockered park and pow skis
Sep 3 2010 11:48AM
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smuggs
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oh my god, first drop is so legit, they listenened to everything i had to say!

but seriously isnt this gear talk?
Sep 3 2010 12:28PM
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.cam.
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if you make skis please make them in a 190ish size!!
Sep 3 2010 1:11PM
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samsquamch
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would make sense to do a colab with someone, maybe surface or liberty
Sep 3 2010 1:16PM
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averyshyra
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I've been waiting for a Back to the Future/ Marty McFly graphic for far too long.

Sep 3 2010 1:42PM
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i.ski.troll.
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Park skis.
lengths. 166, 176, 185
dimensions: something symetrical and around 117-88-117
Medium to soft flex
graphics, something with plain colors, keep it simple.
Sep 3 2010 2:17PM
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allybrown360
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Super durable park skis with early rise
Sep 3 2010 3:38PM
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SOLID7
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Stiff, DURABLE, wider park ski. Make the design simple without too many gimmick technologies. The topsheet should definitely be a simple flat colour to fit everyone's taste. Possible to buy it in various colours?
Sep 3 2010 3:44PM
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YoungJah
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If this was to happen, it would be sick to see a mid-fat all-mountain ski, with symmetrical dimensions, tip and tail taper and a softer flex for a more playful feel.

And maybe mid-heavy reverse cambered pow ski, with a stiffer profile, for charging big Ak style lines and can take the abuse of big airs and hard impact's.

Or a more light weight reverse cambered pow ski, with a softer playful profile for them crazy deep days in the trees.
Sep 3 2010 4:39PM
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joshua
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How do you guys have money for all this stuff? Outerwear, shoes, tall tees, and now skis?
Sep 3 2010 4:44PM
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jamodeo
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Liberty collab would be my choice because of the bamboo and shit. I also don't see the skis going well no matter how good they are just because you've already established yourself as an outerwear company.
Sep 3 2010 4:51PM
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YoungJah
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Didn't you know, that first drop are funded by the columbian medellín cartel.
Sep 3 2010 4:57PM
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jibjunkie
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definitely make some soft ass park skis. like as soft as possible then even softer.after a certain company that i will choose not to mention dropped three of the softest skis ever designed to ride hardpack we are left with a plethora of skinny two by fours. we need fatter softer cambered skis please.
Sep 3 2010 5:11PM
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Online_Alien
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2 words, trust fund.
Sep 3 2010 5:12PM
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carver087
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This is funny...
Sep 3 2010 5:17PM
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tyberesk
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98-102 mm underfoot....fully symmetrical park/all mountain ski with medium flex. Preferably in size 182.
Sep 3 2010 5:18PM
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WVskiing
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some all mountain skis 98 underfoot or something
Sep 3 2010 5:21PM
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Daydreaming
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keep first in the name

like the pow ski could be called 'first chair' or 'first descent'

i cant think of any 'first' names for a park ski though
Sep 3 2010 5:24PM
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smuggs
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first place
Sep 3 2010 5:26PM
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phishfood
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i don't know if you're still reading these posts- but something LONG!!
its stupid that people who are 5'9" ski the same 181 length as people who are 6 ft plus. most 185 length park skis measure 181 anyway.

besides being long- light and stiff is always a solid combination. something symmetrical, light, anywhere from 85 to 95 waist and comes in a TRUE 188 length would be my ideal ski. even if you didn't make a whole lot in that length, i think they'd sell to tall folk. maybe even some rocker, like last year's k2 kung fujas, but not really heavy and soft.
Sep 3 2010 5:28PM
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Daydreaming
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this. thank you, i was drawing blanks.
Sep 3 2010 5:30PM
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.cam.
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if they made this ski but longer i would be all over it
Sep 3 2010 5:42PM
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jibjunkie
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everyone in this thread saying they need longer skis are just compensating. making something longer than 182 wouldnt be a good business move fyi
Sep 3 2010 5:49PM
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.cam.
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im not saying it would be a great business move im just sick of riding short skis being over 6 foot 4 inches a 181 park ski or 185 just doesnt cut it
Sep 3 2010 6:25PM
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PurpleDino
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Yeah it'd be cool to have another core company making skis but you guys came into the ski world as an outerwear company and I really think you should stick with yours roots and put more effort into like improving jacket designs and such.
Sep 3 2010 7:07PM
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jhackbeez
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first drop trying to takeover.  first making shoes now thoughts of skis? when will it end

Sep 3 2010 7:15PM
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Queen_Selassie
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make an ashley battersby pro model in 166-169 for the females
Sep 3 2010 9:12PM
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powderhound100
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yup yup.
Sep 3 2010 11:42PM
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.Max.
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I like the sound of first hit, I was almost going to say "first drop would be cool too like dropping in. Then I remembered something...

Click for larger image
Sep 4 2010 12:13AM
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omIV
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make saucers. really sweet flying saucer sleds. a la shane.
Sep 4 2010 12:21AM
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GILLSKI
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trust me i know
Sep 4 2010 1:19AM
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panojibber
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Don't make skis yet! Absolutely nail your outerwear line, take it slow IMO.

If skis came around later though, I'd love to see something interesting though, try to get some really unique riders and give them pro models. I love the Eric Pollard stuff from Line, they're super sick, and pro models are always nice because its the riders' creative input. Unique shapes are always a good thing, but if you can't absolutely nail a weird shape or flex don't do it. Just make sure you put out some solid skis at first, whether they're really unique or generic.
Sep 4 2010 1:48AM
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Z_rob
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you suck enough at outerwear.
Sep 4 2010 1:53AM
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jeremy.g
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Sep 4 2010 2:12AM
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Virtika
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Thanks for all the replies everybody! Definitely some solid ideas, points, and suggestions.

We won't be rushing into anything, trust me. I think everyone will see the level we have stepped to this year once the outerwear gets into people's hands. Some really high quality stuff.

There are some products we have been testing and developing for over a year, and won't release them until we know they are top quality. We have no desire to risk the future of the business on what could be a low quality, under tested product.

Thanks again for your feedback!
Sep 4 2010 5:31AM
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sneezin
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I say you should make two skis, to keep costs low. Make a girls and a mens park specific ski, symmetrical, maybe one or two sizes. maybe 166 and 186 for those people wanting those big skis. or maybe 170 and 180
Sep 4 2010 8:46AM
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jibking1212
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Start out park and then get more into the big mountain stuff as the company progresses. Also fully symterical (for park) and ranging from 160 to 180s maybe a 160,170,180. For looks just something steezy.
Sep 4 2010 9:30AM
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TijmenDal
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Make something new. Something exclusive.

I'd go with one park (true twin) and one BC Freestyle ski. Keep it simple. Two models would be enough I'd say. Several lengths ofcourse.
Park ski like 167-174-181
Pow ski like 177-186

It'd be pretty cool if you started making your own ski's.
As for graphics, keep it simple and abstract. For example the top sheet of the Bents always really appeals to me. Sort of cartoony but very nice imo.

For a name just make it something funny non-saying. Just some random noun.

Sep 4 2010 10:45AM
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Oreos
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why aren't skis made in normal lengths like this? why are they always like 181 or 179? surely just add/subtract an extra centimetre and make it a round number.
Sep 4 2010 11:44AM
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