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84891jnf92048
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its in the other forums, why not here? so, any "what camera should i buy?", "what is a good song", etc. questions go here.
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Balto
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They are made of cheap plastic that that is prone to become brittle with time and age, very rough mechanically, replacement parts are damn hard to find, and when you do they are stupidly over priced. I have hands on time with all the main MF systems other then the fuji 68 and 69, and the bronicas are hands down the worst of all. If you go into my local camera shop and ask for bornica, they will laugh. Everyone I know who gets a broni ends up hating it in 3 months because they are awful. I don't care how expensive something is, that doesn't make it a good product, if you think that you are an idiot. but when it comes to cameras, you 100% get what you pay for, just don't be impatient and save up if you actually want something. I bought my first M working minimum wage, it's not hard.
Feb 18 2014 11:44AM
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lIllI
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The relative utility of an investment is proportional to one's investment in that activity.

In other words, while I agree with you in principal, this advice does not suit everybody. If I recall, POV is a video guy (could be wrong), and like me he probably doesn't want to invest that much into film photography when his intentions are to dabble (again, correct me if I'm wrong).

For instance, I often recommend people spend bare minimum $1000 on a tripod (because financially, you'd be stupid not to) but I only recommend that to people whose intention is to fully commit to video, not someone who wants to informally play around with video without any commitment. I'd buy a Mamiya 7ii in a heartbeat if photo was my main thing, but considering my low level of involvement, its a completely impractical choice as an investment: great camera, terrible tool.
Feb 18 2014 12:04PM
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m-tang
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I'm looking to get a nice old compact 35mm camera, a shop in my town has a few in the 20-70 dollar range (Argus, Kodak Retinette IA, some others). I really have no idea what makes one a better choice than another necessarily. Anything specific I should look for? I've done a little research on the Retinette and I am kinda liking that.
Feb 18 2014 2:59PM
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Rafiki
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look on ebay. yashica electro 35 and canon canonet 28/ql17/ql19 are pretty readily available for your price range. i'm currently watching 11. just look up reviews on them and google "best first rangefinder" or something to that effect. the camera nerds of the internet will have written everything you could ever want to hear about them
Feb 18 2014 3:14PM
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plorr
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I second this as a really solid choice for a cheap 35mm rangefinder. I have a ql17 and I really like it. The lens is surprisingly sharp. 40mm is a perfect do it all focal length IMO.

If you are looking at SLRs too, an Olympus OM1 would be a great choice. Really well built, compact, and great lenses. Personally, they're my favorite manual SLRs. I wish I had one.
Feb 18 2014 5:53PM
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Rafiki
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you can find them for really decent prices on fleabay. forgot to throw in my last minute bid on this nikon EM, it sold for $10.80 and is in immaculate condition

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i personally like my canon ae-1 just because so many lenses can be adapted to it. and there's a tiny bit of sentimental value behind it.
Feb 18 2014 6:21PM
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TijmenDal
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I've got 4 OM-1's... They're fucking fantastic. Hands down my favorite SLR ever build. Can't say a bad thing about them, except for maybe that the rings you attach your strap to might be positioned a little more to the side of the camera, but we're not even talking an 1/8th of an inch here. Probably half that. With lighter primes (which I like a lot) it tends to be a little lopsided. With heavier lenses, it's perfectly balanced.
Also, you forgot to add the OM-1 has the brightest, biggest hugetest (I know this ain't no english) viewfinder ever. It's everything I want in a camera.
Feb 18 2014 6:31PM
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No.Quarter
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What do you want in a camera? Do you want a fully manual camera or a camera with more auto features?

I shoot with a OM-1 (fully manual) and a Pentax ME (Aperture priority only) in conjunction. The OM-1 is such a great camera. It is very aesthetically pleasing, especially the black one, and the VF is very big and bright. You can shoot it without taking it from your eye if you can memorize the aperture and shutter clicks so that's nice. I have yet to shoot it much handheld as I have been using slow film with it and have been using a tripod 90% of the time, but comparing it to my ME, the ME feels nicer in the hand personally. It is rounder, feels smaller, and the faux leather is more grippy, but the OM-1 does just feel more solid.

Overall, if I were to have only one 35mm camera, I would have a very hard time Choosing between the ME Super and the OM-2 (both are cameras with Aperture Priority and full manual modes. The Pentax ME series and the Olympus OM series both have probably the biggest and brightest VFs compared to their Nikon, Canon, Minolta, etc counterparts.

I paid $80 for my OM-1n Black body (I overpaid a little) and I think around $30 for my ME, so quite a bit of difference there.
Feb 18 2014 8:07PM
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Laurent.
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Realistically any 5$ thrift shop 35mm SLR with a nifty fifty will do.
Feb 18 2014 8:11PM
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Balto
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+ trix = pulitzers?
Feb 18 2014 8:54PM
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m-tang
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I would definitely be looking for a fully manual setup. But thanks for all the advice guys. Notes taken!
Feb 18 2014 10:29PM
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Laurent.
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Feb 18 2014 10:31PM
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notspoicey
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This is an UnKenworthy thread
Feb 19 2014 3:55PM
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Rafiki
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boo you suck get off the stage
Feb 19 2014 4:49PM
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gravel
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U wot
Feb 20 2014 12:06AM
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cheener12
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She's ready to go for this weekend!
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Feb 21 2014 12:10AM
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Laurent.
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^ In that picture you have the facial complexion of either a 12-year old boy or a 20-year old pixie lesbian.
Feb 21 2014 1:05AM
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plorr
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Is that a toaster glued to a piece of particle board?
Feb 21 2014 10:22AM
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cwphoto
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whats the best way to get an edit to flow with the beat of the song? is it best to first put in the song, then trim the shots so they fit in appropriately? i've always just done the editing of the video, then plopped the song on top. is there really any way to indicate where the beat is? i use fcpx. thanks!
Feb 21 2014 7:15PM
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eheath
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I always put my song down first then edit, period.
Feb 21 2014 7:32PM
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plorr
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Thats ass backwards. You definitely want to choose your song and put it on the timeline before you start adding clips to it. Idk how exactly to do it on FCPX but there is probably a way to show the waveform of the audio track, which sometimes helps with getting your cuts right on the beat.
Feb 22 2014 2:42AM
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lIllI
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Boy am I out of line. I always add the song last.
Feb 22 2014 1:50PM
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cwphoto
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yeah for sure. i'm definitely doing the song first next time. thanks man, and thanks ehv
Feb 22 2014 2:10PM
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JuliusJ
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Nikon D4s officially announced. Figured this deserved a place in this thread as it probably doesn't apply or matter to that many people. Fast frame rate, some crazy ISO specs, better movie & AF, smaller RAW files, this camera would be cool if it wasn't gonna cost an arm and a leg, but honestly not sure how huge of a step up it would be without actually trying it.
Feb 25 2014 1:09AM
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Laurent.
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It's their mid-model refresh. Makes no sense to upgrade from the D4 but if you have no D4 get the S for resale value.
Feb 25 2014 5:39AM
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raymondcabral
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I can't even think of a time when 409600 ISO would even be needed....
Feb 25 2014 8:42PM
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No.Quarter
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test shots to get the right composition, exposure, etc for astrophotography or even some other long exposure shots.
Feb 25 2014 8:50PM
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raymondcabral
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Oh yeah that would be handy.
Feb 25 2014 9:07PM
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JuliusJ
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6400 ISO would probably be very usable if it is capable of 409600
Feb 25 2014 9:56PM
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cwphoto
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if i shoot video, or even pictures in cinestyle format, whats the best way to go about color grading these in fcpx?
Feb 25 2014 11:48PM
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gravel
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I like grading most with the Luma Curve. Sometimes I use the standard color corrector (not the three-way) to match clip colors and white balance, but that's more color correction than grading.
Feb 26 2014 12:20AM
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cwphoto
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cool, thanks! i just got a t4i, so i'm starting to play around more with aperture and fcpx to get better looking pictures/video.
Feb 26 2014 1:36AM
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foodisfun
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are tablets like a wacom at all useful for video editing, or just mainly photo and graphic design? i'm focusing on video but also trying to build up my photography skills and was wondering if a tablet could help for both workflows. the intuos pen and touch is what caught my eye - http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Intuos-Touch-Small-Tablet/dp/B00EN27U9U

I'm also a lefty and have been using a right handed mouse my whole life, so being able to use my left hand is appealing too
Mar 3 2014 4:06PM
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plorr
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I can't picture it being all that useful for normal editing. I could see it coming in handy if you're doing heavy work in after effects though, for rotoscoping and motion tracking different layers of masks and such.
Mar 3 2014 5:45PM
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cydwhit
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Like the guy above said heaven for rotoscoping and masks, not really that great for much else
Mar 3 2014 8:15PM
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family_vacation
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I'll be lucky enough to spend my fall traveling in Vietnam, Bolivia, and Morocco this year! I'm gonna need a new camera for this trip because I'd like something nicer than my X10 and I don't want to drag something big like my GH2 around when I don't want to get robbed.

Anyone have any thoughts? I'm thinking RX100 II?
Mar 3 2014 8:40PM
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foodisfun
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thanks guys, I'll definitely hold off on it then
Mar 3 2014 11:59PM
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lIllI
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When you do a lot of normal editing even, a tablet is much nicer than using a mouse. It's healthier for your wrist too.
Mar 4 2014 2:57AM
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Balto
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Used Rx1 ;)
Mar 4 2014 9:58AM
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Laurent.
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Nah bro, trackballs is where it's at.


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Mar 4 2014 1:11PM
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lIllI
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wut
Mar 4 2014 1:23PM
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family_vacation
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It's a lot smaller than a DSLR, but not really anymore portable.

I don't want to deal with the whole interchangeable lens getup, I'd rather have something I can just put in a pocket when I don't want to look like I'm carrying an expensive camera.
Mar 4 2014 9:33PM
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Laurent.
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Buy a brassed up Leica.Then no one apart from the ver occasional aficionado will assume that your camera's is worth several year's salaries.
Mar 4 2014 9:36PM
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plorr
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x100 maybe? Or a ep-5 or gx7 with the 20 1.7
Mar 4 2014 9:39PM
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lIllI
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I can fit my Gh2 + 20mm 1.7 in my pants pocket. I can fit three of those configurations in a hoodie pocket. Anything smaller is going to be a card-like point and shoot.
Mar 4 2014 9:42PM
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Laurent.
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Matt Granger probably keeps 4DS's in his pockets.

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Mar 4 2014 9:49PM
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raymondcabral
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A full frame camera with a fixed lens? wut...
Mar 5 2014 10:28AM
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Balto
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with a fixed 35mm f2 Zeiss lens and an amazing sensor, it's a true professional pocket camera
Mar 5 2014 4:41PM
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foodisfun
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Video too? I'm just learning lightroom and not doing too much yet, but I could see it being useful in the future. I feel like to be worth it for me, though, I'd want to be able to use it well in premiere too
Mar 5 2014 6:25PM
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lIllI
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I'm speaking from a strictly video standpoint, so yeah. Doing any strenuous work on a computer is made more comfortable/safe by using a pen rather than a mouse. The only people I see using the Wacom as a substitute for a mouse are people who edit for a living, as in 40+ hours a week on the computer.
Mar 6 2014 2:30PM
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