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morocco_mole
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im a republican, but im so pissed that faggot McCain is our only choice. Why cant we have a better option than some righteous hardass whos gonna throw the entire population in jail for smoking weed? fuck this shit. Im sorry but all i want is a chill mofo as prez who has low taxes.
Jul 2 2008 10:35AM
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Atypical
Posts: 1339 - Karma: 45
IF you want a chill mofo who has low taxes, I don't think rep is the way to go...
Jul 2 2008 10:36AM
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morocco_mole
Posts: 635 - Karma: 17
yeah but obama is gonna have like 50 percent tax rate on my padres, i like obama but how am i gonna vote for someone who costs my parents millions
Jul 2 2008 10:39AM
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Atypical
Posts: 1339 - Karma: 45
oh yeah I agree, tax is gay as shit.
but either way we're getting taxxed up the ass in this election.

My vote is - drop land and wage taxxes, make maryjane legal and tax it like cigarettes. Bingo, they just won over the entire skiing population.
Jul 2 2008 10:43AM
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Dylan_
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not me, i dont smoke weed ;-)
Jul 2 2008 10:45AM
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Kornn101
Posts: 3534 - Karma: 25
so your parents are millionaires?
Jul 2 2008 10:48AM
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TheButterHashira
Posts: 9691 - Karma: 1,702
You were pulling for Ron Paul in the primary cycle weren't you?
Jul 2 2008 10:53AM
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rusteezee
Posts: 332 - Karma: 14
yeah fuck obama too. FUKC THE BLACK GUY
Jul 2 2008 10:56AM
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Ryno
Posts: 31125 - Karma: 336
Ron Paul looks like the Rep. candidate for you...
Jul 2 2008 10:57AM
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freestyler540
Posts: 13050 - Karma: 18,319
Good thing you are not allowed to vote, people like that should be allowed to talk
-karma for being racist
Jul 2 2008 12:48PM
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skiingonskis
Posts: 2076 - Karma: 262
politicians are shitty in general...but in this case, obama is better than mccain
Jul 2 2008 1:28PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
Posts: 1734 - Karma: 40
Yeah but strangely enough, the candidates aren't super concerned about the newschoolers.com vote.  And if you want low taxes, conservative is the way to go.  Unfortunately, the Republican party is not very conservative anymore.



Jul 2 2008 1:31PM
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dandougherty
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word
Jul 2 2008 1:33PM
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dandougherty
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yeah fuck McCain he's just gonna be bush's little follower    bush 2
Jul 2 2008 1:35PM
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beer.
Posts: 3096 - Karma: 44
Exactly.  Like it or not, taxes have to be increased.  You can bitch all you want, but we fought a very expensive war and we have to pay the price.



Mccain plans to make the tax cuts made under bush permanent, as well as cut taxes for the middle class.  Nice one Mccain, we all know you don't give a shit about the middle class.  That's a smokescreen to distract people from the tax cuts for the rich, because if all he did was make those permanent people wouldn't stop bitching.  Oh and Obama wants to cut taxes too.  Both candidates' fiscal plans would increase the national debt.

The fact is there shouldn't be any tax cuts whatsoever.  In case no one has noticed, we have a deficit in the multiple trillions, and we still aren't out of Iraq.  There are obvious ways for the government to get money (i.e. end the war on drugs and prostitution and tax both of them and make the penalties for nonviolent crimes simply fines instead of prison time) but of course it's never going to happen.

Yeah we all hate paying taxes.  I don't like to brush my teeth, but i do it twice a day.  A republican may not like paying taxes because they don't support our (practically nonexistent) welfare system or social security.  I don't like paying taxes because of the Iraq War, our prison system, and many other things.  Life is full of things you don't like to do.
Jul 2 2008 1:39PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
Posts: 1734 - Karma: 40
Easy there killer...a true conservative doesn't like the Iraq war, the prison system, or many other things either.  And really, legalization (or at least decriminalization) of things like marijuana is also a conservative cause.  But like I said, most Republicans these days aren't real conservatives.



Jul 2 2008 1:47PM
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tribefan226
Posts: 2122 - Karma: 209

amen to that. but outta the two candidates McCain is by FAR more conservative so thats who im going with

Jul 2 2008 1:51PM
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lazyguy
Posts: 470 - Karma: 10
i disagree with many of McCain's policies and decisions but about legalizing weed and taxing it that will not work cause buddy down the street will always be able to sell it cheaper than any store or way the government will go about selling it. Therefore it wont work. Thats the number one reason why alcohol and tabacco are legal and weed is illegal. Much harder to make your own alcohol or tabacco than to grow a single plant.
Jul 2 2008 1:53PM
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TheButterHashira
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Hes pretty moderate on all ends though, compared to other repubs at least. I do give him credit that he isn't going to make God his vp like most other neo-cons. I can't stand the hard core christian republicans.
Jul 2 2008 1:55PM
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TheButterHashira
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I forgot to mention if you want proof to how moderate McCain is in 2004 he wanted to run with John Kerry against bush. McCain is having to cuddle up with christian right and other neo-cons now if he wants any chance of winning.He has always been a war hawk though.

Just throwing that information out there I actually don't really like the guy, but I don't like the opposition too much either.
Jul 2 2008 1:59PM
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ben_southworth
Posts: 1063 - Karma: 447
not only are you racist
but you can't spell
do NS a favor and go play in traffic
Jul 2 2008 2:02PM
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beer.
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Trust me, I'm well aware of the definitions of conservatism.  Republican has become synonymous with neocon these days.  Hence Mccain, who has adopted the neocon platform since he decided to run for president, and even moreso when he emerged as the frontrunner.

Decriminalization is not a conservative cause, its a libertarian cause.  But since conservatives are in favor of decreased government control over our lives in many cases, it also is a cause for some conservatives.  there are plenty of conservatives who don't agree with decriminalization.  It can also be a liberal cause, because it is a progressive step that would result in a lot less people being locked up in our incredibly shitty prison system.  And also, plenty of liberals don't believe in it.  This is all just labeling anyways.

I pity anyone who is 100 percent democrat, republican, conservative, libertarian or whatever.  Our politicians represent us to some extent, but will always be influenced by special interests.
Jul 2 2008 2:03PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Fair enough, but libertarians are on the extreme conservative side of the traditional political spectrum.  But it's definitely true that many libertarian ideals overlap in one way or another with extreme liberal ideals (usually, I think, they support the same policies with different rationales).  That demonstrates pretty well the failure of the traditional spectrum to accurately describe politics - it is always much more complicated than right vs. left.



Jul 2 2008 2:08PM
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beer.
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Ehh actually its pretty easy and cost efficient to brew your own beer or moonshine.  A lot of people near where I go to school make moonshine.  Tax free alcohol is a great way to make money, considering the stuff should cost about half as much as it does.

Growing is just as hard too if you want to produce a quality product.  even if you grow outdoors, you still have to keep the plants watered during dry months, and if you care about quality you will need a good strain and fertilizers, plus a fair amount of knowledge about growing, sexing, harvesting etc.  and if you grow hydro, its a big investment.

the reason weed remains illegal is it remains fairly taboo just because its illegal, its favored by hippies, and a lot of tightasses just despise it.  Not to mention the stake that pharmaceutical, paper, and alcohol companies have in keeping it illegal.
Jul 2 2008 2:09PM
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Elijah.
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That was such a pointless post.


Jul 2 2008 2:34PM
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skier_boy26
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for fuck's sake he NEVER EVER considered that. I even vaugely remember some article (forget where. Maybe NY times, USA Today, CNN, dont know) where it said something like "McCain to kerry: no no and no"

I think he said something like "he had to entertain it" (once again im a bit fuzzy on the specifics) but never to actually consider it.


Still voting for McCain. Obama is a bunch of fucking air in my opinion. I'd gladly write pages and pages as to the pluses and minuses that of each leading to my decision, just to shed a tiny bit of light, but some other dumbshit thread will appear just a couple of weeks later, and the "argument" (a far stretch I know) would just start anew.
Jul 2 2008 3:02PM
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rusteezee
Posts: 332 - Karma: 14
how can i be racist if im black? i an say whatever i want about that WACK ASS NIGGA if i want to so suck my dick.
Jul 2 2008 3:04PM
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Alex_G
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I completely agree.



Jul 2 2008 5:07PM
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BMB
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thats a great vid alexG
Jul 2 2008 5:16PM
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Ben.
Posts: 21463 - Karma: 683
but obama is a flip flopper who wont take sides. AAAAH i see now. it makes perfect sense.

hahahaha. but seriously some of the responses in this thread scare me. Picking your president based on marijuana laws..... great, the country is officially fucked
Jul 2 2008 5:23PM
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DaewonS
Posts: 717 - Karma: 104
if you want Bush round three, vote mccain
Jul 2 2008 5:26PM
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.jr
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fight hate by hating?
Jul 2 2008 6:10PM
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Ryno
Posts: 31125 - Karma: 336
Would you rather be fucked super hard or just a bit....there is clearly a better choice outta the two...
Jul 2 2008 8:03PM
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dylhole
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Don't you guys think there are more important issues than that of decriminalizing marijuana? 
Jul 2 2008 8:12PM
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slaydave
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ron paul was the man for the job... but truth and real solutions are somehow seen as "radical" and "unpatriotic" in this country
Jul 2 2008 8:14PM
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Ryno
Posts: 31125 - Karma: 336
You cant win with the wiretapping issue. Clearly the US gov't is going to continue this no matter who is in office so its really a stalemate there.
Jul 2 2008 8:16PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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Honestly, I think the choices are equally bad.  That's why I'm writing in Bill Cosby in November.




Jul 2 2008 8:28PM
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Tasche
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Disenchanted overwhelmed and tired = me on the next presidential election.


I read both of Obama's books and did some research on McCain and they are both sufficient candidates but I believe Obama is better suited for dealing with the upcoming social and global climate changes (not global warming.)

So I am voting for Obama.
Jul 2 2008 8:58PM
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TheButterHashira
Posts: 9691 - Karma: 1,702
Don't waste your vote. Vote for Rick Astley.
Jul 2 2008 9:00PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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I agree.



Jul 2 2008 9:28PM
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ChrisMercer
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that video Alex-G posted was fantastic.

who is the kid who made this form. "My parents are going to lose millions" those millions are going to help thousands of people who make nothing at all.  Your dad is racking in a ton of money at the expense of other people's lives. the least you could do is pimp out their local parks and fix the streets they need to get to work.   if you're dad is going to be taxed millions, your dad doesn't NEED those millions. quit being such a greedy person and look out for your fellow countrymen. You are the bush of our generation, a spoiled greedy bitch.  I hope my parents get taxed more, we have plenty of money to give.

Jul 2 2008 9:52PM
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cottonwoodarmada1651
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But they're too greedy to give unless the government forces them to?

There's no question in my mind that people should help each other.  But they shouldn't be forced to do so.  If you think you have enough money to give more away, there's nothing stopping you.  So by all means, go for it.



Jul 2 2008 9:59PM
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Campeador
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I don't think many people have a problem with paying taxes to fix streets and improve their parks.

My main problem is with bureaucracies and with people making ridiculous amounts working for the state. Over 50% of the taxes you pay are going directly to pay for those who work for the state.

1. I have a problem when a fire chief who works 3-4 days a week makes far more money than a heart surgeon (my neighbor) who works 5-6 and is almost always on call.

2. I have a problem when said fire captain's daughter (who was my prom date) drives around in a brand new BMW 5 series, while hard working people drive around in piles because of the taxes they pay.

3. I have a problem knowing that when this fire chief decides to retire early, he will receive a ridiculously high pension each year, funded by hard working people like my dad and said heart surgeon. And eventually by me.

4. I have a problem when cops whose main job description is giving stop sign tickets and breaking up high school parties are making 6 figure salaries.

7. I have a problem when the city of Vallejo bankrupts itself because of ridiculous government salaries. Being a firefighter in an easy spot like Vallejo? You start at 90 grand a year. How about a tough place like Chicago? $46,000. What exactly is going on here?

8. I have a problem when normal hard-working people cannot afford decent health insurance because of the ridiculous medical and dental benefits awarded to members of bureaucracies and people who work for the state.

9. I have a problem when a significant number of these state jobs are done by people who are completely incompetent. And the fact that they cannot be fired because of legal loopholes and state-worker unions.

10. I have a problem new candidates for these jobs are only given them based on who they know. Family members and friends of current state employees, further increasing inefficiency and incompetence.

11. I have a problem knowing that 10% of every tax dollar goes directly to paying interest on our national debt. Mainly due to programs put in place by the government that we the people truly have no power to repeal.
Jul 2 2008 10:15PM
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rusteezee
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hey dickhead...i earned my millions and i dont wanna give it up to lazy ass bitches who cant get a fuckin job...ever think about it that way..i earned my mone and im not giving it away faggot.
Jul 2 2008 11:11PM
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Ben.
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ah what i fine and well thought out point. he even used the word faggot to really show his fine ideas. i love that people like this are voting
Jul 3 2008 2:15AM
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jsaya_SagStraps
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either candidate, were still not gonna get a better healthcare system. 
Jul 3 2008 2:38AM
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tribefan226
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"those millions are going to help thousands of people who make nothing at all"
exactly. they make nothing at all. im not sure what this kids parents did but chances are they have demanding careers which required college degree that were obtained through much hardwork. they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with it. why should they be forced to give it up to jobless people who do nothing. dont give me that its harder for some people bullshit. ANYBODY can make it on their own without government handouts. it may be much harder for some, but life isnt always fair.
"Your dad is racking in a ton of money at the expense of other people's lives"
how the fuck is this kids dads fortune at the expense in people's LIVES? wtf. unless he is a corrupt dictator of a 3rd world nation or assassin for hire i dont see how him making money is killing anybody. just typical liberal bullshit. obviously the plight of the poor is the fault of the rich right? i mean does this kids dad like beat up bums on the street and steal their money? how does his success negatively affect anybody?
Jul 3 2008 2:52AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Given the choice, I'll take a lot of air over 4 more years of shitty foreign policy and environmental catastrophe. I really feel like I'm the only person in Seattle that is wary of the pandering rhetoric that his campaign spews. I just hope he pulls through with his issues, or at least a few of them.

But really, I just wish our parties could get over this stupid bipartisan shit and elect a candidate that 75% of the country wouldn't mind for the next 4 years.
Jul 3 2008 3:01AM
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ThaLorax
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except the federal taxes are not only unconstitutional to begin with but aren't properly utilized or distributed as well.  the taxes we pay barely and rarely go to benefit our streets, schools etcetera.  a large portion of it goes straight back to the fed. reserve and a lot more of it goes to support the ever increasing expense of the "operation iraqi freedom" (more like "operation kill innocent iraqi civilians".  there are plenty of ways to help the poor/needy without paying unconstitutional federal taxes (philanthropic donations/volunteering namely),


and you really need to shut the fuck up  rusteezee or whoever you are. don't post if you can't post anything useful.
Jul 3 2008 3:39AM
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beer.
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Huh?  Seriously?  No offense, but that was the worst argument I've heard in favor of a position I sort of support.

I just believe that people don't need multiple millions to be happy.  Call me crazy
Jul 3 2008 11:12AM
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Ryno
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Statistically speaking isnt that near impossible :P
Jul 3 2008 11:35AM
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