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Sooo... Penguins or Red wings?

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mtbakerteacher
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I'm votin' Penguins. Who's with me!
May 21 2008 11:17PM
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AbeFroman
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Red wings
May 21 2008 11:18PM
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ChanchoVelez.
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May 21 2008 11:21PM
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Avifarer
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wings
May 21 2008 11:21PM
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spiegel
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basically, anybody but the pens.
May 21 2008 11:30PM
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mtbakerteacher
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Yeah? Why's that?
May 21 2008 11:32PM
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ChanchoVelez.
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sorry bro i was just putting the pens to make you feel good but wings will take it
May 21 2008 11:33PM
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mtbakerteacher
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This has been a year of upsets. Only best out of 7 will tell.
May 21 2008 11:49PM
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Bumbleton
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wings, penguins are to inexperianced, no matter what that fag crosby says
May 22 2008 12:03AM
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Reptar.
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...have you been watching the same playoffs that I have? Pens have lost 2 games so far, Wings lost 2 last series.
May 22 2008 12:32AM
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Bumbleton
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ya and wings have lost 4 games throughout the playoffs in a much more challenging and competitive conference
May 22 2008 12:38AM
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williamtell414
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GO REDWINGS THE PENGUINS ARE DIVERS AND CHEATERS AND BANDWAGON FANS PLUS THEY BEAT MY FAVORITE TEAM SO THEYRE GAY. AND SIDNEY CROSBY WILL NEVER BE AS GREAT AS ANY OTHER HOCKEY PLAYER AND HE RUINED HOCKEY IM GONNA GO WATCH THE OHL.


/end sarcasm
May 22 2008 12:42AM
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williamtell414
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yeah that the pens went 8-1-1 against this season
May 22 2008 12:45AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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Deeeeeeeetroooooit..... hockey?
May 22 2008 12:54AM
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Manlenium
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Detroit should stick to auto working.
May 22 2008 1:25AM
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720skiguy
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wings for the win
May 22 2008 1:26AM
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Elijah.
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Brian don't pretend like you know hockey...
May 22 2008 1:27AM
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Elijah.
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(I'm joking, you played it for 1000000 years...)

May 22 2008 1:28AM
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FUUUCK
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Crosby is god. You cant beat god.
May 22 2008 1:57AM
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spiegel
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sure you can.

his name is ovechkin.
May 22 2008 2:01AM
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Hannah.
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wings!
May 22 2008 8:00AM
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dave44
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Go Wings! West coast pride

not gonna lie tho, ovechkin is soo hot ritght now
May 22 2008 8:45AM
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FUUUCK
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oh but what team is he on again?
May 22 2008 9:26AM
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mtbakerteacher
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Haha doesn't mean I know how to talk about hockey scoring. I know how it works, just not the lingo.
May 22 2008 10:06AM
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720skiguy
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a team that can't back up his abilities
May 22 2008 10:22AM
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MurderBert
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fuck both of them, go islanders!
May 22 2008 10:26AM
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lazyguy
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detroit will win in 5 games... heres why. 1st, Detroit's offense is equal or better than pittsburgh, they all both have plenty of star offensive players and secondary scorers but detroit has more. Filpula, Franzen, Draper, Maltby, Hudler, and more. Another difference is their forwards are all accountable and reliable defensively. I believe detroit has 4 forwards that have been nominated for the selke (best defensive forward) zetterberg, datsyuk, maltby and draper. I believe pittsburgh has only 1 player (stall) who has ever even close to getting nominated. Those two pairings at even strength will be able to shut down or significantly limit pittsburghs top 2 lines. These lines also put a lot of of pucks in the net and get key goals. Therien will soon be forced to get creative with his lines and be forced to change constantly on the fly in order to try to get crosby's line away from zetterbergs as detroit will love that matchup. Detroit is also the best puck possession team in the league so these guys will be forcing the big lines to do a lot of skating. Detroit only struggles and gets beat if the team plays too physical for them. Pitts has some physical players but I dont think they have enough so the game will likely fall into a finess series, which plays into puck possession which detroit owns at. Add in the fact that detroit is the best faceoff team in the league and pitts is the worst only helps detroits cause even more. Those offensive shutdown people does give them a ridiculous PK so i think pitts PP wont dominate either.
Now the D. Detroits D is the best in the league, only Anaheims D is even close. They are smart, quick, versatile. I truly believe that anyone on Detroits D would find themselves in the top pairing on PItts. Also with it being a speed game some of the pitts D are just big and slow. Put them in a skill game and they will get exposed.
Now goalies, sure fleury has played well so far I give him credit. and yes he is older than those world junior days. But hes still a flake until he truly steals a couple games, which i have to say he hasnt really had to do yet. But hey he did look ridiculous in that world juniors before he choked in the gold medal game. Osgood is proven and a veteran with big game experience and RINGS!
The west is a way stronger conference this year, but I have to say neither team was fully tested because every team they played had key injuries, or just exhausted. I said this before the playoffs and will say it again, the only way a team from the east will win is if the team from the west comes in completely beaten down from the war in the western conference. Detroit's only injury is to franzen but he will probably be back for this series

Also for the record I am not a fan of either team, but I have to say I will admit that I am biased because I have never been a pittsburgh fan and stevie Y is from my hometown, and i am not a fan of crosby.

May 22 2008 10:42AM
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PhaedeD
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unfortiantly you have failed to hear almost every person that has something to do with the nhl say that the pens have the best defense in the league. also you dont watch hockey much because the wings have played a bunch of pussies the whole playoffs and the pens are going to hit hit hit and they wont know what to do. we only have one big slow defenseman Hal Gill and the dude is fuckin good. Wings in 5 lol pens will win both home games. i think you also forgot that hossa and malkin are on fucking fire playing like gods.
May 22 2008 10:51AM
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lazyguy
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where are you finding that. Thats BS. I have yet to hear anyone say that Pitts has the best D in the league. Lets look at their teams D one at a time. Lidstrom or Sergei Gonchar? Im sure every GM in the league aside from may Shero would take Lidstrom. Rafalski or Witney... popular pick is Rafalski, Shneider or Hal Gill. No brainer: Shneider, Then Detroit has Kronwall, Lebda, Chelios and Stuart. These people own Detroits other D's... Sydor, Letang, Orpik or Scudari, Switch up the orders however you want and believe me aside from Ray Shero no one would take Pittsburgh's D over Detroits. Yes they have a lot of solid young players but they are still maturing. This is not about 3 years down the line - at that point you have an argument, but now there is none.
Playing a bunch of pussies? Seriouisly, you clearly dont watch the playoffs. Pitts beat a slumping ottawa team that was filled with injuries, who couldnt put anything together, who last year manhandled pittsburgh. I still believe last years ottawa team would beat pitts this year. Ohh then next there is the NYR. they are not known as a physical team, they are a skill team, who yes is becoming more physical but their D is still a big question mark. They are a team that always disappears after the first round because they dont have the physical play. Next up is philly. Yes Philly is a physical team. But life is a lot easier when their 2 best Defencemen timonen and cobourn are playing injured. Now look at who detroit played. Nashville: thats a very physical team. Colorado is a physical team and very talented but they had injuries. Then Dallas, yes they came in tired from their war with San Jose but they also just beat Anaheim. The three most physical teams by far in the west. The west has also been known for playing more physical in the playoffs. Detroit beat each team by at least matching their physical play. Know what you are talking about before you say that detroit beat a bunch of pussies. If anything i would argue that based on who played who, i know you cant control who you play but pittsburgh definetly had a softer trip to get to where they are.
You are forgetting how many detroit players are on fire. I dont mention that because look at franzen and the goals hes scored, and then the big 2s are even in points in the playoffs. Just get used to seeing holmstrom pissing off fleury and zetterberg and datsyuk controlling the puck down low with pitts top lines not being able to play O because they are stuck playing D
May 22 2008 2:00PM
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wordzofwizdum
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wings
May 22 2008 2:09PM
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Avifarer
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ya they certainly lost that series they swept
May 22 2008 2:24PM
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spiegel
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sounds like YOU'RE the one that doesn't watch much hockey.  the western conference is by far the more phyiscal conference.
May 22 2008 2:36PM
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PacificRimJob
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West coast of what? Lake Champlain?

I actually live on the west coast... dont insult it by putting the wings there..

May 22 2008 3:03PM
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Hannah.
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haha good call
May 22 2008 3:05PM
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KRASHED
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Penguins are going to absolutely smash the red wings. And that's not just because I want them to win I just can't see the wings stopping the momentum of a young and talented team.
May 22 2008 3:11PM
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.Capn.
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This thread is basically "Sooo... Are more people from Pittsbugh or Detroit?"
May 22 2008 4:42PM
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KRASHED
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I live much closer to detroit than pittsburg
May 22 2008 5:33PM
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mtbakerteacher
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I live North of Seattle, but family is from Pittsburgh.
Actually, I had basically ignored the Penguins as a team in recent years until they started showing talent this year. I'm stoked on this comeback though!
May 22 2008 5:46PM
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Reptar.
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i read this and reread this, and it still makes no sense.
May 22 2008 5:53PM
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Avifarer
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yea my bad. i mis read what you said and thought you had a typo so my response was really messed
May 22 2008 5:58PM
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Pippin
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No matter which team you're going for, you had to admire the fight this series will be, the talent from the young rookies is umbelieable, like REDICULUS while the vetrens playing in the series have easily matchable skill. This will be a great series, with great goaltending and im sure some intense over times.

That being said im saying pens in 7, i just love the intensity the young players have...and so what you can cover malkin.....crosby stall and many others are still there, you just cant beat a bunch of Canadian kids on the pens. the wizard of croz himself has set himself  up  to win it, and IMO  no one can touch him.
May 22 2008 5:59PM
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J.D.
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Red Wings should win. They could even sweep, but I'm going with 6 games. Here's the thing no one seems to realize: the best hockey player in the world will be in this series, and it's not Sidney Crosby. It's Nick Lidstrom.

The comment earlier about Pitts' D being the best in the NHL is absolutely absurd. They have played amazingly well in these playoffs, but Detroit has the best team D in the league. Please understand that the Datsyuk/Zetterberg line is a CHECKING line, not a scoring line. They're just a checking line that scores a hell of a lot of goals. Draper, Maltby, McCarty are perhaps the best defensive line over the last 10 years (besides maybe Holik's line 7 or so years ago). Franzen, Filpulla, Samuelsson... all defensive forwards first, scorers second. This is a team built to prevent Malkin from being Malkin.

Pittsburgh is a young group. None of them have ever played a team as good as Detroit in the playoffs.
May 22 2008 6:09PM
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Avifarer
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Detroit also played all last series without their leading scorer.
And i'm assuming he will play in the finals.
May 22 2008 6:14PM
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J.D.
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Yeah, Franzen's back for game 1. You never know whether the time off and concussion will have cooled off his hot streak though.
May 22 2008 6:19PM
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Elijah.
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May 22 2008 6:48PM
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djty111
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Pens in 6 or 7 games....
May 22 2008 7:02PM
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nealpgards
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Wings in 5 games
May 22 2008 7:09PM
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Reptar.
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Penguin Strategy
-More puck handling less physical, Detroit will kill us in physical play.
-We need to keep this "win the first 3 games" attitude. If we take a W at detroit early on, we got it.
-Hopefully Detroit uses the same strategy as the other teams we faced which is:Cover Crosby and Malkin at all costs. Then we just have Hossa Stall Talbot put it in.
-Kennedy You deserve a goal already.

other than that, should be a total blood bath, but seeing as a sweep is pretty much out of the question, i hope it goes to game 6 so we win the cup in pit.

May 22 2008 7:39PM
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mtbakerteacher
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You're just bitter because daddy almost broke the TV when the Flyers lost.
May 22 2008 9:03PM
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Krush
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wings bitch
May 22 2008 9:04PM
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Jeff_Lo
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Wings in 4 or 5, I'd like to see it go to seven for the pure sake of being to watch all the games since only the last 5 or scheduled to be on NBC, but Detroits depth and sheer talent and experience will beat out the Pens. 

The Wings have stunted the whole league all year long, its there year, 2 great goalies, Zetterberg/Datysuk combo, Johan Franzen if he comes back from his injury.  I dont know, diving just want win a series for the pens this time around, Detroit doesn't play the same game as the Rangers or Flyers, they own the puck 60-70% of the time with pracitcally any team they play, even in a loss to Dallas.  If the Pens can stay out of the box, they may beable to stretch the series to 6 or 7, but due to the young and OVERLY apparent immature talent that has been shown of late (Malkin and Crosby) they may find staying out of the box hard against a very very solid and strong willed team like Detroit.  Holmstrom will also cause alot of problems in front of Fleury that the Penguins haven't seen yet.  It'll be a great series, but Experience wins this cup, plus, its the western conference....comon
May 22 2008 9:12PM
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