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Blue mountain: The worst decision ever.

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UNREAL
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Ok, this all started yesterday, when some n00b fell on the smallest drop in the blue mountain bike park. He apparently cracked his skull, no longer than an inch long. As I rode by the scene, I here crying and see bike patrol all over him. I keep riding and hit a jump in the progression park (pretty much terrain park), and continued on with my daily ride. This being my last run, little did I know this would be the last jump that I would hit ever again at blue mountain.


The next morning (this morning), I arrive at the lineup to a very unpleasant surprise. My freind, Sam is standing at the line up. I walk over to him.
"Yo Graeme, Guess what"?
"what"?
"There are no more jumps at blue"
I laughed
"No buddy, im not joking. A kid fell yesterday and the result is that there are no more remaining jumps on blue mountain"
"Your Kidding, Right"?
"Uh no"...

So after this, we walk into the line. The liftie says (we know all of the lifties and they know us on a name to name basis), "passes please". So we pull out our passes, like usual, and Wob (the liftie) Says "Where are your green stickers guys"?
Now, theres has been no such thing as green stickers, and so we asked what they were. He said any child under the age of 16 needs a green sticker to ride the trails now (even though there all flat now..), and that we needed to take an "assessment".

Me and Sammo (and our other riding freinds), are some of the more advanced riders at blue mountain, and we had to take a lesson. Now what happened during this lesson was pretty funny. We passed the instructors, and after one run they gave us our stickers. We went up the lift.

As soon as we got to the top we knew it was going to be bad. They had already been destroying trails since 4am this morning. We learned this at the top from the lifties. The trail list follows (and status).
From the blue mtn site.

Double black diamond - Autobahn - closed (being bulldozed tommorow)
Black diamond - Showcase - closed (being bulldozed tommorow)
Blue run - Sidewinder - closed for the season
Terrain park - Spark-a-rama - closed permanently
Blue run - Fresh-air  - open with all features closed
Blue run - Raison Run - open with all features closed
Blue run - The ridge - open with all features closed
Black diamond - Grab bag - Open with all features closed
Double black diamond - The wall - open with all features closed
Black diamond - Squeeker - open with all features closed
Double black diamond - Big Sleaze - open with all features closed
Black diamond - Waterfall - Open with all features closed
Double black diamond - Highway - Permanently closed (best run)
Black diamond - R.Shore - open, comepletely flat
Double black diamond - O chute - Open, ruined after today
Double black diamond - Shot glass - Permanently closed
Blue run - Route 66 - XC run
Double black diamond - Scorpion thunder - Permanently closed
Terrain park - Progression park - Permanently closed
Green run - Happy valley - Open, Only intact trail! (no features to begin with)
Project - Fluids - will never be comeplete

Almost every trail effected. Bullshit.

I have learned through the course of 4 1/2 hours, a bike park can be comepletely ruined. Seasons passes are being refunded for only 25 % of retail... horrible.

All this because some snotty nosed kid from Toronto who has never ridden a downhill trail in his life falls. Cunts need to learn how to run a bike park.

Anyways, thats my rant, tell me your thoughts.







Aug 10 2007 8:12PM
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UNREAL
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Ok i jst got back from the town hall meeting. the situation intrawest is left in with this whole thing is pretty bad. it leaves me screwed as i am 13. i dont want to explain it there was so much said.
Sep 8 2007 9:21PM
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SkierX
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Woah woah woah.

Is this something that is going to affect the whole mountain-sports situation at Blue?
Sep 9 2007 12:13PM
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Ryno
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Some details please.
Sep 9 2007 12:24PM
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Steezysmurf
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that is SOOO GAY

I haven't been there before, but I wanted to go bad this season I just never could get a ride down

Was this tart wearing a helmet at least?
Sep 10 2007 12:02PM
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Jenns
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http://www.dropmachine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26773

Lots of information here.
Sep 13 2007 10:49AM
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whattheshit
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so any word if all this is because the kids parents are threatening something or is it because blue wants to make a voluntary change for the safety of its riders?
Sep 14 2007 1:20AM
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Pipe_Munky
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from what i understand it is a voluntary act to keep their riders safe while determining a new risk management policy.

unfortunately i was at the bicycle tade association of canada show in montreal this past weekend so i wasn't able to attend the meeting. but hey, anyone hitting up blue this weekend? i'll be there riding with one of the guys from kona. i'll be on my grey sasquatch and he should be on either a stab deelux or supreme




Sep 14 2007 10:44AM
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UNREAL
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yep ill be there, i dont know if riding because ill have to rustle myself some armor... gay. Oh and they said if theres one more law suit, the bike park is over forever. Also, they said privaledges could never be based on ability rather than age, because the legal system dosent see your skill level, only your age. fuck.
Sep 14 2007 11:24PM
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carve_89
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Maybe not even that ... isn't there a disclaimer on the back of the ticket???

I don't understand this at all; clearly its the rider's responsibility for whatever happens in there, it was THIER CHOICE.

I'm a street/urban rider but I've always wanted to go to Blue with some of my friends ho ride DH (though...I've been delaying that for years LOL); this just sucks.
Sep 18 2007 11:05AM
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UNREAL
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meh it might be sytill worth it........
Sep 20 2007 1:36PM
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Boards
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Mauii, take er easy on Gary, he did not ruin Blue's Park....i'm not going to say who did, kuz they know who i am on NS and read this shit all the time, but it was definitly not Gary....

As for personal responsibility, just make sure you never sue for anything that is your own fault, lead by example, protest pathetic lawsuits and embarrass the shit out of whiny bastards and parents who sue at every occasion.

Insurance companies shut down bike parks, and terrain parks, they have too much sway over our lives, somehow we need to fix that....
Sep 26 2007 11:45PM
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Pipe_Munky
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yes i can blame them!

out in BC, bike parks are becoming more and more common and they aren't having the problem that blue is having. the problem in Onterrible is that we are so much like the US now that the first thing on peoples' minds after an accident is ho can i blame?" this is horrible and it's ruining it for all of us that hit a tree and all we say is "fuck i was dumb"


Sep 27 2007 10:57AM
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GORDON
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You guys REALLY like to beat dead horses...

one more fact to throw in here...

Blue mountain operates on ITS OWN LAND...
Many of the BC resorts operate on CROWN LAND/PARK LAND...

Ontario IS NOT BC...its sad...the western culture is far more Liberal than hear...but if you don't think thats changing...you need to pull your head out of the sand...

Blame society..NOT insurance companys...if you had ANY idea how the insurance industry works...you would understand this...

ALSO....Blame society NOT the Risk manager....this is a bigger issue than a most of you seem to understand...resorts have a TREMENDOUS responsibility..and no matter how much you think you should be able to do whatever you want...be responsibile for your own actions...it just doesn't work that way anymore....I wish it did..my job would be MUCH easier...

Here's a suggestion...Why don't some of you go and buy some land and build your own area...Where you don't have to abide by anyones rules...responsibilities are your own, insurance is your issue, no "stupid people"...and be able to AFFORD to maintain that.
I'm not being an ass here..just trying to get a point through
I wish it were possible....Believe me, I would have done it by now...

It's just not that easy.....I don't like where ANY of this is going...but if you just want to sit back and bitch...you'll spend the rest of your life sitting and bitching...

My .02
Sep 27 2007 3:17PM
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UNREAL
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No shit buddy. the first stuff is all common knowledge to all of the people i know. And i dont think most people can afford to buy land and buy dirt and buy a bobcat or whatever.
Sep 27 2007 7:48PM
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UNREAL
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and who the fuck are you? and who knows your on NS? I know alot of people within blue through my freinds there. It was supposed to be shut down (investors order) but the two saved it... (their names are escaping me right now) haha that may sound stupid but i was at the meeting
Sep 27 2007 7:52PM
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schism
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Graeme thats dan kellar he works park staff at blue i think he also did the summer of snow series.
Sep 27 2007 10:34PM
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SkierX
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Holy crap dude.

Chill out.
Sep 27 2007 10:39PM
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UNREAL
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I love stirring up shit hahah
Sep 28 2007 3:26PM
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GORDON
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thats my point....

other than the common knowledge bit...if that were true...this thread would have been very short.


If we didn't make the decisions we do we couldn't afford to do any of this either.

Plain and simple....

Oct 1 2007 10:43PM
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UNREAL
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hmmmm
Oct 2 2007 3:44PM
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Boards
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duff_man, watch yourself there son.  don't be relying on 'friends' you know.  learn about the person who you ask 'who the fuck are you' too, i guarantee i know what i am speaking of and i guarantee i have contributed to NS a little bit more than most over the years...

the fact is insurance shut it down and actually had the nerve to ask the park staff "who they were to say the jumps were safe to reopen".  this kind of shit is not good for skiing as insurance companies are trying to control what we can build.  it is time for insurance companies to fuck the fuck off and for people in north america to take responsibility for their own actions.  it is a sad when someone is hurt but they were not forced to take any risks, they CHOSE to.
Dec 27 2007 9:42PM
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Boards
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i think you missed my point.
i understand insurance companies allow our sport to continue, that is the problem.  they limit what we can do and what we can build because people wont take responsibility for their own actions.  what i am saying is they have too much power over our sports and our lives, restricting our actions because of liability. well if there was once again personal responsibility (it would make things more civil in NA) we would be able to have huge parks with huge jumps and it would be up to the rider  (or the riders PARENTS) to decide what they can or can't do.

insurance companies sue other insurance companies to re-coup losses.  it is not blue mountain who pays out, it is our intrawest insurance policy who then has to recoup their losses somewhere else.
Dec 31 2007 4:44PM
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UNREAL
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sorry, i was very pissed. and why is this thread still around?
Jan 2 2008 5:21PM
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