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Sending more troops to iraq

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SkiUnit03
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so bush just made his speech.
im not sure about my opinion yet.
please share your feelings/views
Jan 10 2007 10:08PM
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da-bling
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i thought the speech was supposed to be about pulling troops out of Iraq????
Jan 10 2007 11:40PM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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theres already a thread but i think a slight increase wouldnt hurt, the iraqis do need to know that we arent gonna do it for them though.
Jan 10 2007 11:41PM
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AndrewZ
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I dunno, he's going against the advice of everyone. It just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Flooding Iraq with 20,000 more soldiers...it just seems like he's putting more lives on the line. Why does he insist on going against top generals, the Iraq study group, and millions of Americans? I feel like I don't know quite enough about it yet, but from what i have read and seen it seems like a poor decision.
Jan 10 2007 11:46PM
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DDrem.
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war is dumb. i like bush, but he is sooo damn idealistic to think that he can send so many people to die in a foreign land, when he doesnt even know what iraqis want. just some lame manifest destiny shit.
and why do leaders get into an argument, kill tons of soldiers, meet, settle things with signing shit, and things go back to the way it was before war.
i hate politics
Jan 10 2007 11:52PM
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i-7
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Why not send 20,000 more troops? Its the best decision he has ever made and I bet you by fall of 2007 Iraq will be neutrialized.
Jan 10 2007 11:57PM
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BurgRider
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i think we should just bomb them some more and rape their country. 

I think it is a dope idea to send more troops. 

not joking either
Jan 11 2007 12:13AM
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Schmitz
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hey, peace man.
Jan 11 2007 12:16AM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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cant bomb, they hide with civilians like cowards. either send in more troops or pull out and let the iraqi police figure their shit out quick.
Jan 11 2007 12:21AM
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siversex
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that situation is so fucked up any action is good action.
Jan 11 2007 12:21AM
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wAy2sTeEzY4u
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that a pretty bold statement, care to back it up?
Jan 11 2007 12:25AM
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Lord_Piot
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hahahahahahahahaha


cute.
Jan 11 2007 12:35AM
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MitchPee
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I hope that was sarcasm...
Jan 11 2007 12:44AM
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poor@$$skibum
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Are you trying to tell me that by sending 20,000 more soldiers in no less than 8 months everything in Iraq will be just peachy? Put down your crack pipe sir, it's fucking your brain up.
Jan 11 2007 1:09AM
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Utahpowderskier
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Lets face it. No matter what we do at this point, it will only lead to more supposed failures. We have dug a hole to big to get out of with 20,000 or even 200,000 troops. Bush painted himself into a corner. The only "peace" that will come from Iraq is through their own civil war and an eventual creation of three countries with their own respective ethnic majorities, thus propagating the situation of ethnic rivalries that have dominant in the middle east for centuries.
Jan 11 2007 2:51AM
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SHastatahoe
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It has to be done.
Jan 11 2007 3:03AM
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J.D.
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Uh, newsflash, there AREN'T 20,000 more troops to send. He's going to have to send reserves over sooner while simultaneously keeping the guys already serving over there in Iraq for longer than they were supposed to be. So yeah, misleading terminology. Also, no one besides Bush seems to think this has a point to it aside from getting more Americans killed. So, solid plan, people die so the president can look like he didn't back out without one last push. That should comfort their families plenty.
Jan 11 2007 3:15AM
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spere
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^exactly, we dont have the troops and a lot of his top generals didnt support this surge of troops to Iraq, so he fired them.

im glad we have such an informed president running things
Jan 11 2007 3:24AM
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reggyboy
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FUCK GEORGE BUSH!!!!
IMPERIALIST BASTARD!!!

the sooner that dick head loose his presidency, the world will be far better off. clinton almost lost his title for getting his dick sucked. This bastard starts two wars one that was semmi legitiamte (even though he set up a oil pipe connecting russia to southern europe which america is pocketing some nice cash as result of this) and the second was complete bullshit, we all no it, he lied about his reasons going in and sadam being a bad person was not enough to justify a full scale military invasion. so after all this he sends more people into the mincing machine and no one fuck all to stop him, its going to happen and there is no way of stopping it.


we have just reached 3000 dead american soliders in iraq lets celebrate and send 20 000 more. but the celebrations probly a cover up, their actually really just still looking for the weapons of mass destruction. (ooozing with sarcasm)

the larger the target the easier it is for people to make an effective suicide bombing. think about it more troops more resistence from people who dont want american soliders and politicians telling them how to run their country. what makes the american form of democracy the best?

he calls them terroists, but hes worse than them. last time i checked he has killed far more innocent people than Osama binladen has, and last time i checked he is getting ever closer to matching sadams efforts. who is the lessor of three evils here?

lets replace a tyrrant with an army, cause that way the Iraqies will be free. how does this not seem remotely ilogical.

hand Iraq over to the UN let them sought the place out with a combined effort from all nations, not just one over imperialist nation who for some reason feels their democracy and freedom is better than others.

ill probly get flammed for this but i dont care...

FUCK BUSH!!! AND IF U SUPPORT HIM... FUCK YOU!!



Jan 11 2007 3:30AM
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MitchPee
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This is where we draw from the South American stationed troops.
Jan 11 2007 3:55AM
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Homebrewer19
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants..."
Jan 11 2007 5:43AM
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freestyleskiin
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because millions of Americans don't know what the fuck they are talking about...how many Americans died in WWI and WWII. How many in Vietnam. How many in Kereoa. In every war we have ever faught in there have been lives lost. Thats what war does, and the fact that we have lost what 3000 soldiers? A small fraction of 130,000 i would say. I have spoken with multiple soldiers that have come back from Iraq, officers and enlisted, and all I have heard is that its war, shit happens, and everything is not what the press plays it out to be. They have all said that yes, there are some issues with the plan of the US government but it is not as out of control as the press plays it off to be. They have told me they were shocked when they came home and watched the news for the first time. I have a friend who works as a high ranking military officer working for the Surgeon General and is in charge of nearly all military and civilian hospitals in the region and he has told me many a time not to listen to the press and to always call him for any questions.
However, as with any issue there are two sides, and both those sides are always know to overexagerate in one direction or another. I just hate it when people watch the 6 o' clock news and think they are experts on the subject. (I got done ranting and realized that i have deviated from the origional post so dont take offese to anything I said)
Jan 11 2007 8:46AM
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BurkeSter
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they will send in more troops and make a final push and then probably pull out and leave some green baraide people in iraq to train the iraqi police, just like vietnam.

but then again im Canadian
Jan 11 2007 8:48AM
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freestyleskiin
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South America is not the most stable place we could take troops from. Also we have written obligations to some of those countrys to have a certain amount of soldiers in said countries.
Jan 11 2007 8:49AM
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Kevo
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Well personally, I don't see why he isn't sending 200,000 more troops. Why not just send every US male between the ages of 18 and 40 over to Iraq?

This is getting to be absolutely ridiculous. The US should become isolationist again. We should keep naval forces on patrol around the world, but bring back most ground forces.
Jan 11 2007 3:12PM
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soulskier
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seeing we've been able to take over parts of iraq, but not hold them
i dont think it'll hurt anything it will just help us hold territory
but then again i dont know anybody thats leaving to go over there
Jan 11 2007 3:14PM
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BurgRider
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leave it to a fucking australian
Jan 11 2007 3:27PM
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reggyboy
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wat u mean leave it to an australan, if u havnt noticed we have sent troops to iraq as well. our government isnt part of the solution at all.

but atleast we dont force our political beliefs onto other countries. eeast timor for example, we freed those people for an opppressive regime but then we let then set their own system up. he had no political influence on how that government was establsihed. and nor should america with how iraq's government is created. the main reason your still their is to secure oil for a few more years.

bush said in his speach, "the situation in Iraq is un acceptible for american citizens" like most of you really give a shit what happens in a country on the other side of the world. your government cant even run your domestic health care properly, y would the american public care whether or not Iraq is running to the same democratic beat as the "land of the free"
Jan 11 2007 8:39PM
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Utahpowderskier
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How can you make that accusation? Obviously a lot of us care about Iraq or else there wouldnt be such a big controversy on how shitty it is over there. Sure, our country has plenty of its own problems, what country doesn't, but that has absolutly no bearing on whether the american populous cares about not fucking a country over.
Jan 12 2007 11:43AM
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hoodratz47
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fucking bullshit.. i have 3 family members in shitfuck iraq right now. and im gettin presured by there parents to join the milatry.. i tell them FUCk you and they tell -me im non patriotic but fuck that shit..... i love my country but i have never seen how some camal fuckers halfway around the world endanjer mylife
Jan 12 2007 12:51PM
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derick
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ya thats what i thought too
Jan 12 2007 12:54PM
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Rez4frederick
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I know that I'm sure as fuck not going to risk my life for this so called 'war on terror'.  I dont want to lose my arm or leg either, fuck that, you cant do anything against those sneaky fucks and their bombs planted everywhere.
Jan 12 2007 1:06PM
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freestyler540
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What I dont get is some people want this war, but dont want to be on the battlefields fighting and dying for whatever the cause is.

Jan 12 2007 1:12PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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Since every other country on the planet seems to hate what the US did with Iraq, why don't they do something about it? There is a huge problem in Iraq and since everyone seems to think it's Bush's fault why don't they go in and do something about it? (I'm not talking about individual people, I'm talking about countries)
Jan 12 2007 1:26PM
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Republican_Enemy
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cause nobody can touch us by there lonesome. Thats like you going up to andre the giant in his prime
Jan 12 2007 1:31PM
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aprailey
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manifest destiny is the US believes it has the right to control North America from the Atlantic to the Pacific.. Imperialism is the term your looking for
Jan 12 2007 2:15PM
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Spitzer
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It's not about what the Iraqis want... It's about the Oil there that the US needs...
Jan 12 2007 2:32PM
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Mod
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Personally I think it's a good idea. The armed forces in Iraq don't have full control over insurgents, and by sending 20k over violence will DECREASE, saving more lives of soldiers and civilians and establishing a more civil enviornment for the Iraqi's who are afraid of going against these insurgents in fear of being killed.
Jan 12 2007 3:26PM
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bermbuster49
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well, i can tell you why the millions of americans dont matter. they are dumb as shit! they think the war is just a simple lets go over there kick ass and leave type thing, which it really isnt.
Jan 12 2007 4:07PM
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Benedetto.
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yo bango. i agree and a lot of these motherfuckers won't understand so fuck it, whatever.





however, i am stuck right now very far from america because of this


you win some, ya lose some
Dec 26 2009 7:45AM
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Benedetto.
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and just realized this is a thread from 2007 lmfao. i search about the new surge or troops.

and guess what? ol bango was right. IRAQ IS NEUTRALIZED
Dec 26 2009 7:46AM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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America has fucked over a Iraq big time.....Weapons of mass destruction my fucking ass.All America have done is used and abused a country.They were better off when Saddam was in power now theres no control,the Sunni and Shiites are at civil war and the Chrisitan Minorities are getting persecuted and slowly destroyed.

America fucked up a country which didnt really need to be changed,they dont understand that democracy doesent work in these types of countries only dictatorships. FACT
Dec 26 2009 8:32AM
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Benedetto.
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ALSO FACT: Sadaam was out to get america

/endfact

Dec 26 2009 8:49AM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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Fucking bullshit. Weapons of Mass Destruction? Huh where? LMAO Saddam was out to get America,LOL America used 9-11 which was a war on (Afganistan) as a way to get into Iraq just for oil and a playground to test out their lethal toys.Admit you fucked over a country and don't bullshit me.
Dec 26 2009 8:52AM
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Benedetto.
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Yes, I admit single handedly fucked over a country who fucking hates my guts. I personally took on an emeny who I can't even tell is an emeny till a IED goes off and strap metal is flying. All by myself, I sniffed out IED's and located terrorist hide-outs and neutriziled them. Also, by lonesome, I helped hundreds of sick and hungry Iraqi's. And by helping them (by myself), I have proved to them that America is not at all that terrible. Isolated and alone, I captured Sadaam and hung him. FYI, he's killed thousands of people with chemical weapons and FYI, that is again the NATO rules. I also recieved 3 purple hearts, medal of honor and a navy star.

just bullshitted you but there was a lesson learned in there.  It took thousands of Americans and other UN countries to accomplish this mission. So, fuck off.
Dec 26 2009 9:02AM
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Toilet-Ott3r
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No need for the fuck off but all i say is do you really think the Iraqi people give a fuck you helping them.I bet most of the kids that run up to your humvees begging for water and a source of nutrition would hope you would get the fuck out of the country or die. At the end of the day Saddam kept unity for both the Christian and Mulsim religons in the country now all there is ,is civil war.You just dont understand politics and religious movements only what you load into your M4 carbine and predator missles which normally hit a civillian home rather then their actual targets.

Well done, i look forward to World War 3 with Iran.
Dec 26 2009 9:11AM
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prontocuts.com
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oh sweet dude i didnt know you were in the CIA
Dec 26 2009 1:40PM
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NW_Rider
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Please enlighten us, although you yourself have failed to mention one of the largest groups (Kurds) and have given no hint to any knowledge to the former political structure of Iraq or what the future political blueprint is designed to achieve.
Dec 26 2009 2:27PM
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ECfreeski3
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are you insinuating that youd need to be in the CIA to know that there were no WMDs in iraq?
Dec 26 2009 2:33PM
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kepler.
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WMD's are a moot point. We would have gone to war even if it was known there were no weapons of mass destruction anywhere in Iraq.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/12/tony-blair-iraq-chilcot-inquiry
Dec 26 2009 3:47PM
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bermbuster49
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hahahah omg i was the last person to post on here in 2007!!! SHITS ANCIENT YO! hahah
Dec 26 2009 3:51PM
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