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DoublyDeeze
Posts: 625 - Karma: 3,863
Ok so im hitting up mt. snow this weekend and my 2010 ar6's just came in, is there a really quick way to detune my edges in time?
I know there are plenty of threads about this but i need advice for a quick and easy way
Dec 10 2009 11:40PM
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KellyK
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just hit some rails.  they'll dull themselves down.  it really isn't that big of an issue, it may mess you up at first, but so will any new pair of skis. 
Dec 10 2009 11:41PM
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-ShredTheGnar-
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you neeeeeeeeed a gummi stone.

just run it along you edges and it takes it de tunes them....

they are cheap...
Dec 10 2009 11:42PM
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DoublyDeeze
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ok so if i start off with hitting some rails this weekend do u think they will be detuned in time?
Dec 10 2009 11:45PM
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BWalmer
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The best way to detune your edges is to use a metal file to round the out underfoot then go tip to tail with a gummy stone to get all the burs off. This will help prevent edge cracks over time cause there's less to catch on rails and boxes. Don't get to crazy with the file, you just want to get the a little smoother. This is what I do to ALL my park skis before hitting and rails or boxes and I've hit hundreds of rails with them and never had an edge crack.

If you don't have a metal file or gummy stone, hit a bunch of rails before hitting any boxes cause you'll catch your sharp edges on the plastic on the boxes.
Dec 10 2009 11:47PM
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T*Ski
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yo dont detune them. if you just hit some rails theyl detune in the exact places you want them to just the right amount so you dont fuck them up detuning the shit out of them or somthing
Dec 10 2009 11:47PM
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-ShredTheGnar-
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If you have time just go to a tuning shop they would probs do it for free and would take them 2 seconds...


Using rails and shit to do it.... will give an uneven de-tune.... but its up to you...
Dec 10 2009 11:48PM
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DoublyDeeze
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im leaving tomrow...
im just gunna hit some rails then they will detune themselves in the right places
Dec 10 2009 11:51PM
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skiP.E.I.
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rubbing them on any abrasive and durable surface will get the job done effectively.
Dec 10 2009 11:51PM
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KyleA
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I personally find hitting rails with sharp edges terrifying.  I usually take an angle grinder or a file to my new edges.  It's not really difficult to find the part of your ski that you plan to slide rails with.
Dec 10 2009 11:57PM
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ShredTheGnarnia
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DETUNE THEM

i already broke my collarbone this season because i caught on a rail because my edges were too sharp. dont make the mistake i did

Dec 11 2009 12:05AM
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Blurst
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stop being a panzy and just grind them down on rails.
Dec 11 2009 12:10AM
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-ShredTheGnar-
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Thats shitty dude.
Dec 11 2009 12:11AM
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two_plankers_one_wanker
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For god sake don't use a file to round them underfoot. As a former racer it hurts me to think about that. Use a diamond stone or a gummy stone. It will detune ur edges enough that they are no longer aggressive and prone to catching. If you take a file to them it will impair your ability to hold an edge in the snow.
Dec 11 2009 12:33AM
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Tripplesixty
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just hit the rails and get it done naturally.... never caught an edge yet, never detuned yet
Dec 11 2009 3:10AM
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Jibberino
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ALWAYS detune underfoot! I recommend the file, works for me. With regards to grip in the snow, detuning underfoot will not take away significantly from your grip, since it's mostly the edges infront of your bindings that do the gripping. It will of course give less grip, but the advantages of not smashing your face in on a rail heavily outweighs this.
Dec 11 2009 3:43AM
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Balto
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A. this should be in the sticky in geartalk
B. dont file down your edges its the worst thing you can do
C. just use a gummy stone underfoot like i say in the sticky
Dec 11 2009 3:53AM
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KyleA
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If you ski park/rails, holding and edge in snow doesn't matter.  The only snow that matters is  8+ inches which you don't need edges for anyway. 
Dec 11 2009 4:14AM
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dirtylion27
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Sandpaper? probably not tho
Dec 11 2009 8:36AM
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T_orageskiier
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i use a gummi stone cause its almost impossible to screw your edges with one. A file is a different story.
Dec 11 2009 8:44AM
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I_Am_Mod
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Pick up a rock

rub it over your edges

depending on the coarseness of the rock you might want to do this several times...



(i wouldn't suggest the use of a gummi stone, they're used to detune filed edges, to get the sharp brims off but your edge will still be sharp as fuck and catch an edge...
really think of it, you'll be sliding metal rails with your edges, you'd have to be quite a moron to seriously fuck your edges up, doing more damage with a handfile than with 10ft metal rails...)


Dec 11 2009 9:51AM
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BWalmer
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*Disclaimer* I mean NO hate by the following, and I am talking about skis that is used primarily if not solely in the park.


For everyone who says "Dont use a file", watch this video and remember these are PARK skis, you are doing what the rail is going to do to them anyways, only you're controlling the pressure and where on the ski it's getting detuned. Now, here is a video on how to tune/detune your skis, please pay attention at around the 5:00 mark and you will understand why a file is good to use:
Courtesy of Newschoolers.com

I agree that a gummy stone is a good way to go, but it's not going to help round out the edges underfoot, and rounding out the edges underfoot can help prevent damage to the edge. This is not something to do to an all-mountain/jump ski, but most likely he's planning on using them primarily in the park, and park skis get thrashed hard, but by detuning the edges properly you can lengthen the life of your ski.
Dec 11 2009 10:45AM
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Gangspar
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Gummie stone and detune your edges really hard !!!!
Dec 11 2009 10:55AM
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ISKIBC
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eject your skis next to a rail and run the edges perpendicular to the rail with a small amount of force... x 4

should be enough to get you started
Dec 11 2009 11:21AM
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DoublyDeeze
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sounds like a good idea
Dec 11 2009 3:05PM
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