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Maximum amount of toe shimming under Tyrolia PowerRail track?

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Locutus
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I've got a few Head skis mounted with PR (PowerRail) bindings. Was thinking of upgrading to the Protector PR 13 GW, which I can simply slide onto the existing PR's.

Unfortunately, the Protector's delta is ≈2 mm larger than what's on there now (and yes, I'd notice that difference). If I were mounting the Protector flat (no PR), that's easily addressed by adding shims under the toes. But these have the PR track, which means the shims need to go under the track, which distorts it.

I currently have 3 mm toe shimming under the track of my FF16 bindings, and that's worked fine. Should the PR track be just as accommodating?

The alternative would be to gas-pedal the boot.

**This thread was edited on Jun 9th 2025 at 4:59:46pm
Jun 9 2025 4:58PM
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skierman
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Fuck off to Reddit and take your shitty threads with you.
Jun 9 2025 8:32PM
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vishnugaper7000
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buy vishnus and do some fucking lip on blind 2s like a man
Jun 10 2025 12:05AM
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deadhead420
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I doubt anyone on here has the answer to your question. those are pretty niche bindings. Also most people around here are trying to reduce stack height on bindings and not tune binding delta. those bindings look pretty cool if they weren't as tall as frame bindings

this post made by marker gang
Jun 10 2025 2:49AM
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Non_State_Actor
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It's 2mm, just don't worry about it. You're not talking about machine parts.

You could easily tape a partial shim to your boot board but I wouldn't bother.
Jun 10 2025 3:53AM
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deadhead420
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Non_State_ActorIt's 2mm, just don't worry about it. You're not talking about machine parts.

You could easily tape a partial shim to your boot board but I wouldn't bother.


Shining the boot board is not gonna is not gonna accomplish what he wants at all. That would change the boot fit and does not change the angle between the cuff and the ski
Jun 10 2025 10:19AM
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Non_State_Actor
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deadhead420Shining the boot board is not gonna is not gonna accomplish what he wants at all. That would change the boot fit and does not change the angle between the cuff and the ski


It would change the angle between the foot and the ski though? Cuffs are frequently adjustable. But really when you get down to it it's just such a small amount. If this person was a world Cup skier where this might actually matter they would have ski techs figuring this out.

Worry less, ski more.
Jun 10 2025 11:45AM
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Locutus
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deadhead420Shining the boot board is not gonna is not gonna accomplish what he wants at all. That would change the boot fit and does not change the angle between the cuff and the ski


Yes, exactly right.
Jun 10 2025 9:27PM
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deadhead420
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Non_State_ActorIt would change the angle between the foot and the ski though? Cuffs are frequently adjustable. But really when you get down to it it's just such a small amount. If this person was a world Cup skier where this might actually matter they would have ski techs figuring this out.

Worry less, ski more.


“Worry less ski more” 100% correct.

the rest of is completely wrong. Expert skiers can definitely tell a major difference in cuff angle, ramp angle, binding delta, stack height, ect. Tuning all these things to your specific skis, boot and style makes a huge difference in turn initiation and shape.

no it’s not gonna turn a B450 into a B630 but I could be the difference between shooting a gap in a high speed turn and smacking a tree
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