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Look Pivot vs Tyrolia Attack DIN setting

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DragonSlayer7
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I have two skis, one with pivot 14 and other with attack 14. Same skis and center mounted on both.

on the pivot I’m at 7.5 DIN and 8 DIN on the attack. But I am consistently getting pre release on the attack if I land switch heavy or land off a rail a bit too shuffled. I had my bindings checked by two shops and they said its all set correctly (AFD and Forward pressure)

i can do the exact same tricks and on the pivots I never pre release, even when I land shuffled I get the chance to revert back to straight.

my question is, is it normal for people to set their attack bindings to higher DIN than normal? I like having the attacks for days when I’m hiking because they’re easier to take on and off but also nervous about setting a higher din and getting hurt. But I’m also losing confidence in trying new tricks with these because pre release also hurts.

**This thread was edited on Mar 22nd 2025 at 4:21:53pm
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Liamsasd
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Attacks just suck fat booty cheeks ngl tyrollias hay days are long gone
3 months ago
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officechair
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I’ve ejected out of attacks and strives at the same DIN as pivots, but never the pivots. Makes we wonder if pivots actually eject when they should.
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DragonSlayer7
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Ive had some bad landings that I am glad my pivots released me from so they definitely work well for me. My calculated din is 7 but I am at 7.5 on the pivots and 8 on the attacks.
officechairI’ve ejected out of attacks and strives at the same DIN as pivots, but never the pivots. Makes we wonder if pivots actually eject when they should.
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Bloc_chain
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LiamsasdAttacks just suck fat booty cheeks ngl tyrollias hay days are long gone

>implying tyrolia ever had a hay day

Just buy pivots, problem solved
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TOAST.
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I've had this issues on multiple pairs of attacks and griffons. Forward pressure and afd set where they should be. Never had this problem with pivots. Got a release test done on the pivots to make sure they were releasing correctly because I can run the din around 7 without issues.
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PartyBullshiit
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Pivots have a higher overall elasticity range so they’re going to allow you to move within the binding more before they eject you. That’s the main selling point of the pivots turn table heel. That doesn’t mean they’re going to retain you more when you actually hit the din setting and need to be released. If your dins set properly you’ll still eject when needed. You just won’t get pre release when you shouldn’t like the attack.
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HumanGenius
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Anecdotal but I rock pivot 14s consistently 1 to 2 din settings less than other bindings. However the other bindings I have are shifts which famously pre-release so maybe not a good measure
3 months ago
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deadhead420
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I bet your forward pressure and/or AFD height is set wrong causing pre-release
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apalm
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PartyBullshiitPivots have a higher overall elasticity range so they’re going to allow you to move within the binding more before they eject you. That’s the main selling point of the pivots turn table heel. That doesn’t mean they’re going to retain you more when you actually hit the din setting and need to be released. If your dins set properly you’ll still eject when needed. You just won’t get pre release when you shouldn’t like the attack.


This is the only right answer assuming both bindings are set up correctly.
3 months ago
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deadhead420
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apalmThis is the only right answer assuming both bindings are set up correctly.


Thats a big assumption for the smooth brains on here
3 months ago
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DragonSlayer7
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I ended up setting my attack 14 DIN to 9 and haven’t had any pre release since. But I’m probably going to sell these and go back to the pivots with 7.5 DIN; I’m not comfortable being at a 9 DIN because I’m lightweight and also I had a previous knee injury that I don’t want to risk re-injuring.
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SmokedGouda
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Back when I mainly skied pivots, I wasnt going as hard but still had some falls/ crashes. Pivots are by far the most solid bindings ive ever ridden in and could do well at a lower din compared to other bindings. From falls that I had pivots on, either the skis were still slightly locked in or almost ripped the binding completely out of the ski or even bent skis/broke because they wouldnt come off at like a din of 9 but also dont have your little ones roaming an empty run all over the place… hardest hockey stop edge catch fall Ive ever had or else I would of been in jail for murder. Put my tyrolia attacks at a din of 9 and I got too much pre release that a few encounters almost landed me with a concussion or ski hits a bump and ejects instead of absorbing. It is nice having it pop off when needed, but the pre release was almost deadly.
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