Season with Outpeak - What skis?

Benski2001Hey Guys!

I am doing my first ski season as a ski instructor with Outpeak this winter and is looking to buy some new equipment during the summer sales. I have some questions about equipment. What should I priorities for a season? Get a pair of like hardcore race skis to improve my technique during the season or will I get more enjoyment with a pair of off piste / all mountain pair for the season? I believe Outpeak recommends a pair of slalom / giant for the courses to develop more but Idk what I you guys think?

Both is the real answer here,

You can use your instructor pro deals as well if you want to pick up a pair of FIS racing skis, personally you should look to get from my perspective:

1 carve ski for instructing on most icy days: Head Supershape, Fischer RC4 The Curv, Völkl Deacon



1 all mountain/ fun off-piste ski: Rossignol 110 free, Dynastar mfree 108, Salomon QST 106, Black Crow Atris



If you are joining to get your instructor qualifications, I'd recommend a carver frontside ski for technique and to iron out your issues you are carrying, A frame etc, carv lean, dropping the hip etc

Wets and misfits

TRVP_ANGELWets and misfits

normal person: it was recommended i get some slalom/GS skis or all mtn skis for a ski instructor job

NS: yeah bro you should get park skis from this company that no longer exists

It doesn’t really matter. If it’s you’re first season skiing you probably won’t be advanced enough to really take advantage of the features on the ski. Just get something cheap around 80-100 underfoot with a nice sidecut

Rock_InhabitantIt doesn’t really matter. If it’s you’re first season skiing you probably won’t be advanced enough to really take advantage of the features on the ski. Just get something cheap around 80-100 underfoot with a nice sidecut

yeah sorry my post wasn't helpful either

i agree with this, get a decent all mtn ski between 80 and 100 that sounds like it'll for you and you're good to go. i think getting a race ski for a first year instructor is overthinking it

Ben_ShortBoth is the real answer here,

You can use your instructor pro deals as well if you want to pick up a pair of FIS racing skis, personally you should look to get from my perspective:

1 carve ski for instructing on most icy days: Head Supershape, Fischer RC4 The Curv, Völkl Deacon



1 all mountain/ fun off-piste ski: Rossignol 110 free, Dynastar mfree 108, Salomon QST 106, Black Crow Atris



If you are joining to get your instructor qualifications, I'd recommend a carver frontside ski for technique and to iron out your issues you are carrying, A frame etc, carv lean, dropping the hip etc

Hey!

Thanks. What do you think though for a ski instructor course? Would I be able to still get a good improvement on a pair of all mountains? Or will I loose the value of the course if I don't step into a pair of "carvers"? Just seem too expensive for 2 pairs. But I believe during the course I will enjoy a race type of ski more. But during the season probably a wider ski more..

Maybe a Ranger 96? If you want to learn to carve, start with a flat tail. But I wouldn’t recommend a dedicated carving ski unless you know you’ll want it; they aren’t versatile.

Sometimes old race skis can be gotten for cheap used since not a lot of people want them. But again, I wouldn’t make that my main ski.

Benski2001Hey!

Thanks. What do you think though for a ski instructor course? Would I be able to still get a good improvement on a pair of all mountains? Or will I loose the value of the course if I don't step into a pair of "carvers"? Just seem too expensive for 2 pairs. But I believe during the course I will enjoy a race type of ski more. But during the season probably a wider ski more..

Oh man, you would be sorted on just an all-mountain pair of skis, 90 width, my recs were biased due to what I use for instructing and guiding, but anything in that early-mid 90-95 width ski would answer most of your questions:

Line Blade Optic 92

Salomon Stance 90

Rossignol Sender 94 Ti

Fischer Ranger Blue

Dynastar M-Pro 90

Zag Slap 92

You can easily go more narrow but just some extra options that mean you should be fine with a single ski*

do some more research into these and see which one matches your price range (remember bindings!)

It depends on what levels you will be instructing but generally speaking, you will spend many hours on those skis so you want comfortable skis and the rest doesn't really matter as you will be going slow all the time.

If you are teaching beginners you might want to consider twin tips that are slightly too short for you. This makes it easier to ski backward, shuffle back up, assist people, etc. A slightly fatter ski will also make it less exhausting to stand around. If only they still made the Line Lizzies, those are my go-to bunny hill instructing skis.

If you are teaching intermediate groups it really doesn't matter. Just take your favorite ski. As long as they aren't snow blades or hell bents, you won't be confusing your students.

If you are coaching racers or guiding back country it becomes a different story.

Regarding personal progression, again, choose what you like. If you like all-mountain skiing, go for an all-mountain ski. If you like slalom, go for a slalom ski.

**This post was edited on Jun 15th 2024 at 11:20:49am

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michael_bcIt depends on what levels you will be instructing but generally speaking, you will spend many hours on those skis so you want comfortable skis and the rest doesn't really matter as you will be going slow all the time.

If you are teaching beginners you might want to consider twin tips that are slightly too short for you. This makes it easier to ski backward, shuffle back up, assist people, etc. A slightly fatter ski will also make it less exhausting to stand around. If only they still made the Line Lizzies, those are my go-to bunny hill instructing skis.

If you are teaching intermediate groups it really doesn't matter. Just take your favorite ski. As long as they aren't snow blades or hell bents, you won't be confusing your students.

If you are coaching racers or guiding back country it becomes a different story.

Regarding personal progression, again, choose what you like. If you like all-mountain skiing, go for an all-mountain ski. If you like slalom, go for a slalom ski.

**This post was edited on Jun 15th 2024 at 11:20:49am

Thanks!!

Ben_ShortOh man, you would be sorted on just an all-mountain pair of skis, 90 width, my recs were biased due to what I use for instructing and guiding, but anything in that early-mid 90-95 width ski would answer most of your questions:

Line Blade Optic 92

Salomon Stance 90

Rossignol Sender 94 Ti

Fischer Ranger Blue

Dynastar M-Pro 90

Zag Slap 92

You can easily go more narrow but just some extra options that mean you should be fine with a single ski*

do some more research into these and see which one matches your price range (remember bindings!)

Thank you!!