Cast Freetour 1.0 toe pieces falling off

edollo_dredlocksI haven't had any scary releases since this issue resurfaced but just wanted to ask if anyone else has had this issue and ask when I should get worried?


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Nah, you good. If it's freaking you out I could machine metal tabs for you. The plastic stud things are probably wearing out.

Interesting, I've never seen this happen but I assume it has to do with wear on posts? I wonder if taking the toe piece and posts completely off and re-mounting them in the same holes changes anything? Curious to hear what others think, Do you mind posting some photos so we can have a gander?

these are the photos of the original situation (addressed by cast w/ new locks in jan. 2024). The new situation is almost identical, I just don't have a photo of it rn

BallClapperNah, you good. If it's freaking you out I could machine metal tabs for you. The plastic stud things are probably wearing out.

Word! are you talking about the plastic buttons for sliding the binding on and off? Interesting that the freetour 2.0 seems to do away with all of this button lock stuff and it seems a lot more condensed.

seems like it doesn’t really matter given they aren’t loose while your boots are clicked in. only issue i can think of is possibly losing the toe piece in a crash if the ski pops off.

edollo_dredlocksWord! are you talking about the plastic buttons for sliding the binding on and off?

That is the thing that wears out.

BallClapperThat is the thing that wears out.

It’s actually not. The main issue on cast toe pieces with incorrext fitment wobbles or releases are the little contact tabs. The little metal taps that put pressure onto the post usually aren’t set correctly or they’ve been bent and don’t provide enough pressure to keep tight retention. Its the most common issue with cast other than incorrectly mounted posts that are not aligned from the get go.

see the little metal tabs in front of the springs. Those typically need to be adjusted. Releasing toe is almost always attributed to this issue.

Check your post and tab alignment. You may need to bend them to create more static pressure.

**This post was edited on Apr 3rd 2024 at 11:52:20am

Think I misunderstood. So your pivot toes won’t stay on? What about the touring toes? Any issues?

Word; so here's s what cast's final advice; kinda seems like I bent the towers and fucked up the shims because of that.

For the Freetour to work properly and allow the toes to change easily is dependent on the mount. The 4 screw towers all need to be perfectly up and down and side to side to allow the toes to stay locked and change easily. To me it appears one of your toe shims is not sitting flush to the ski (see attached photo).

1. Is this the ski that is hard to put the toe on?
2. Is this the ski the toe is not staying locked to?

This is what I think can be causing the problems you are experiencing. We will need to fix that/adjust the mount to get this working properly. I would recommend asking your local ski technician for help with this.

If the mount is off and the toe is struggling to click on, I would recommend the following directions below...

1. Unscrew the towers/toe screws all the way out/off.
2. Check to make sure that the screw holes have not volcanoed and preventing the toe shim from sitting flush. If there are volcanoes you can remove them with a razor or rasp.
3. Reapply wood glue to the holes
4. Screw the standoffs screws back into the ski leaving them very, very loose.
5. Click the alpine toe on while the screws are very loose.
6. Snug the screws down while the Alpine toe is on. (The alpine toe helps align the towers straight).
7. Test the alpine toes to make sure it now stays locked on. Then test other Alpine toe and tech toes to make sure they are still working properly.

Keep me in the loop on this as we do want everything to work for you.

Let me know if you have any questions?

Thanks

Mmmm, alloy tabs wouldn’t hurt either. Interesting.

edollo_dredlocksWord; so here's s what cast's final advice; kinda seems like I bent the towers and fucked up the shims because of that.

For the Freetour to work properly and allow the toes to change easily is dependent on the mount. The 4 screw towers all need to be perfectly up and down and side to side to allow the toes to stay locked and change easily. To me it appears one of your toe shims is not sitting flush to the ski (see attached photo).

1. Is this the ski that is hard to put the toe on?
2. Is this the ski the toe is not staying locked to?

This is what I think can be causing the problems you are experiencing. We will need to fix that/adjust the mount to get this working properly. I would recommend asking your local ski technician for help with this.

If the mount is off and the toe is struggling to click on, I would recommend the following directions below...

1. Unscrew the towers/toe screws all the way out/off.
2. Check to make sure that the screw holes have not volcanoed and preventing the toe shim from sitting flush. If there are volcanoes you can remove them with a razor or rasp.
3. Reapply wood glue to the holes
4. Screw the standoffs screws back into the ski leaving them very, very loose.
5. Click the alpine toe on while the screws are very loose.
6. Snug the screws down while the Alpine toe is on. (The alpine toe helps align the towers straight).
7. Test the alpine toes to make sure it now stays locked on. Then test other Alpine toe and tech toes to make sure they are still working properly.

Keep me in the loop on this as we do want everything to work for you.

Let me know if you have any questions?

Thanks

BallClapperMmmm, alloy tabs wouldn’t hurt either. Interesting.

Fax. seems like they fixed this issue in the 2.0

PartyBullshiitThink I misunderstood. So your pivot toes won’t stay on? What about the touring toes? Any issues?

Touring toes don't go on well to my ski with the bent up towers and non-flushed shims; but its only rlly one ski

Looks like your metal locking tabs are worn on the corners. These are supposed to grab the little bump on the plate, but there's nothing to grab onto anymore

edollo_dredlocksTouring toes don't go on well to my ski with the bent up towers and non-flushed shims; but its only rlly one ski

I bet once you straighten the towers out the problems will be solved. Their alignment is crucial for the system to function.