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beepski
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1086116/IMG-2521-mov


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1086117/IMG-2522-mov

I keep falling off the tube early in my slides or if I do make it to the end it just looks terrible, any advice?
Jan 29 2024 4:15PM
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jompcock
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Get all the way sideways from the shoulders down, have a wider stance, and put more weight on the front ski.
Jan 29 2024 4:33PM
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Mellow.dome
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Pop more, separation at the hips - keep your shoulders kinda perpendicular with the rail, eyeball the end of the rail to keep yourself centered
Jan 29 2024 4:38PM
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A15
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From what I see and think you seem to be initiating to far away from the tube try getting closer nit to the point where you straddle on

hence why you fall forward instead of sliding it
Jan 29 2024 4:51PM
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A15
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Also as mentioned above good pop of the lip turn as close to 90 as you can look at the end of the rail or tube, shoulder width apart at take off and while on the feature and more weight on the front of your foot
Jan 29 2024 5:00PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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People should always learn and master the urban-on method (from the side like you did), but it's way easier to learn rail slides by straddling the tube with one ski on either side of it. Go straight and pop up, then rotate your hips all the way to 90 degrees, but keep your shoulders and head facing the end of the rail. Keep your feet shoulder-width apart and weight distribution about 50/50. Then just keep on trying!
Jan 29 2024 5:13PM
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SteezyYeeter
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ReturnToMonkeyPeople should always learn and master the urban-on method

do you think it's better to just learn urban on to begin with? i feel more confident going onto a rail urban than straddle, makes it easier for me to get to 90 and bail if i need to. not as extreme as OP tho lol
Jan 29 2024 6:07PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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SteezyYeeterdo you think it's better to just learn urban on to begin with? i feel more confident going onto a rail urban than straddle, makes it easier for me to get to 90 and bail if i need to. not as extreme as OP tho lol


I don't think you have to learn by straddling, but it can make it easier to learn and I do believe it's helpful to learn how to get onto a rail from many angles, helps you learn balance and edge control. Straddling, slightly urban on, urban on from a bigger angle, lip on from multiple angles, even getting on perpendicularly. You'll find different rails where you'll want different approaches onto them

**This post was edited on Jan 29th 2024 at 6:25:17pm
Jan 29 2024 6:22PM
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Voyage86
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as other have said try and be much closer to the side of the rail on take off and use the slightest angle possible towards the rail to get on. you are kind of skiing from one side to the other right over the rail because you are taking to sharp of an angle to the left to get on.
Jan 29 2024 6:46PM
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lluscho
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Just a question why get wides as your first park skis?
Jan 29 2024 6:48PM
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dwt802
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SteezyYeeterdo you think it's better to just learn urban on to begin with? i feel more confident going onto a rail urban than straddle, makes it easier for me to get to 90 and bail if i need to. not as extreme as OP tho lol


Straddling the rail is helpful to stay on longer when using your feet for rail control is still a new concept, it can help you slide longer quicker. A balance though is probably best doing straddles on big lips or ride on lips where it would be easier and do urban where it makes more sense where a straddle is sketchy and that way you’ll get a balance and likely progress faster. (I did not do this, I only split legged and as a result I couldn’t land forward for 3 months after learning rails let alone be controlled enough for urban)
Jan 29 2024 6:49PM
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Farmville420
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SteezyYeeterdo you think it's better to just learn urban on to begin with? i feel more confident going onto a rail urban than straddle, makes it easier for me to get to 90 and bail if i need to. not as extreme as OP tho lol

Yeah coming on from the side is easier
Jan 29 2024 6:50PM
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beepski
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lusch0Just a question why get wides as your first park skis?


I’d heard so many good things about them, and I wanted a wider and playful ski. I also feel like the style of them is what I want to develop my skiing into.
Jan 29 2024 6:57PM
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muffMan.
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SteezyYeeterdo you think it's better to just learn urban on to begin with? i feel more confident going onto a rail urban than straddle, makes it easier for me to get to 90 and bail if i need to. not as extreme as OP tho lol


Straddling works but the issue is you can be limited by rail choice.

What worked for me learning urban on was first airing over the rail, then a quick 180 over it, then just commit.
Jan 29 2024 7:25PM
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beerskier
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vishnus as your first park ski ?
Jan 30 2024 8:23AM
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beepski
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Check my ealier comment
f4everyrhingvishnus as your first park ski ?
Jan 30 2024 8:53AM
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gvski13
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Something that helped me when learning was to practice the hop onto the rail just on the ground, do a 180 just standing with no speed just to get the motion. Also learn sliding both ways while youre learning so you dont master right foot forward and have to relearn left foot forward.
Jan 30 2024 9:40AM
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sethoscope
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I try to make my skis parallel to the rail as I go off the takeoff. Helps me get the right rhythm/pop on
Jan 30 2024 9:44AM
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kickdrew
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i used to have the same problem, try and go straight at the rail instead of an angle, then practice popping up onto the rail, lock your front edge in, look at the end of the rail and your good to go
Jan 30 2024 10:11AM
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hi_vis360
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lusch0Just a question why get wides as your first park skis?


f4everyrhingvishnus as your first park ski ?


Vishnu is a cool company that supports great content. The more people who buy their skis the better
Jan 30 2024 5:53PM
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jompcock
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dwt802Straddling the rail is helpful to stay on longer when using your feet for rail control is still a new concept, it can help you slide longer quicker. A balance though is probably best doing straddles on big lips or ride on lips where it would be easier and do urban where it makes more sense where a straddle is sketchy and that way you’ll get a balance and likely progress faster. (I did not do this, I only split legged and as a result I couldn’t land forward for 3 months after learning rails let alone be controlled enough for urban)


first dfd I ever slid was by straddling. The lip was an urban on lip and thinking back I have no idea why that felt safer. Couldn't pay me to do that now.
Jan 30 2024 9:20PM
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dwt802
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jompcockfirst dfd I ever slid was by straddling. The lip was an urban on lip and thinking back I have no idea why that felt safer. Couldn't pay me to do that now.


I did the same exact thing, and I wouldn't split leg half the shit I used to either for money...


Also typo in what I first said I could only land switch, not forward, I couldn't stop my momentum.
Jan 30 2024 9:35PM
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Kyrilmo
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Might sound stupid but one of the things that helped me to hit rails is if you find yourself about to fall off one side of a rail try to control your fall to the other side.
Jan 30 2024 10:19PM
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