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Candide BC 111 - New Touring Setup?

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tedford
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I've been skiing the CT 3.0s with Shifts the past few years. I've gotten more and more into backcountry skiing and this season I want to get a proper touring setup with lightweight bindings and skis.

I'd been looking at the Deathwish tour skis from Moment, but I just found out about the new Candide BC 111s. I'd love to hear any thoughts or opinions on these. The individual ski weight clocks in at 1,900 grams per ski. I'm wondering if I might be better off with something lighter. I want to be able to charge pretty hard and throw some small tricks in the backcountry, but I want something pretty lightweight for longer days and hut trips.

What do you guys think?
Nov 22 2023 4:02PM
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fabbe
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You should've posted this in either the gear forum or the AT & Backcountry forum...

Anyways, i have absoloutley no clue gangily
Nov 22 2023 4:27PM
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profa_212
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They just dropped this fall so idk how many people have had a chance to ride them yet. probably going to be pretty tough to get any real review for another month or two.
Nov 22 2023 4:50PM
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hamsauce
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Are you going to be mounting your shifts on them or are you getting a lighter binding? I personally see no reason to get a super light ski if you put a shift on. Id much rather have light binding heavier (1800-2000g) ski than the other way around.

if you are doing shifts, id say go for it!
Nov 22 2023 7:03PM
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Dan-Man
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I kinda think light weight touring specific skis are BS. Just get whatever ski you want, throw some fuckin pin bindings on there and bam! your a fuking back country maniac. shifts are a dope binding and a good entry level option for some1 getting into touring but pins can really be a great option.
Nov 22 2023 7:13PM
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freestyler540
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Are you planning on hucking big cliff? Are you gonna build BC jumps? If the answer is no, drop the weight. All of it.

Go carbon!
I have a pair of old dps wailer 99 tour 1, 1300g a ski and put on dynafit superlights. These are increadible skis! They kill it in deep powder and easy to hike with. Ive put in 20km days on the without having any type of pain.

If yes, got bulkier to resist the impact forces.
Nov 22 2023 8:01PM
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tedford
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Thanks for the helpful comments guys. I'm planning to put the ATK Freeraider 15s on these for a full lightweight touring setup. I'll only take these skis out for longer day missions or overnight trips.

However, I do want to huck cliffs and will probably build some BC jumps here and there. I'm just not sure if a carbon ski lighter than the BC 111s would be worth the compromise in handling on some rowdier downhill.
Nov 22 2023 8:37PM
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profa_212
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tedfordThanks for the helpful comments guys. I'm planning to put the ATK Freeraider 15s on these for a full lightweight touring setup. I'll only take these skis out for longer day missions or overnight trips.

However, I do want to huck cliffs and will probably build some BC jumps here and there. I'm just not sure if a carbon ski lighter than the BC 111s would be worth the compromise in handling on some rowdier downhill.


If the cliffs aren't big or in variable conditions the atks will do fine for that
Nov 22 2023 11:07PM
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ogit
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these guys have skied them, not in their intended condition but worth checking this video out

https://youtu.be/6nTaZ7LwLC4?si=_E6rkwc4FQNlFuSk

**This post was edited on Nov 23rd 2023 at 9:05:33am
Nov 23 2023 9:04AM
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cali_invader
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The DW Tour 112s with freeraiders/voyagers is a proper lightweight setup. You're looking at a ~1700g ski + a 385g binding with brakes+spacers all included. At that 2100g point you're getting a ski that behaves like a resort ski and can drop cliffs + charge through crud without getting destroyed.

I have the DWT in 190cm length + voyagers and I have taken it up large objectives like Shasta without hating my life too much. They are super easy to ski, especially when you have a heavy pack and need that confidence on sketchy sections. I don't think I'd want my setup to be much heavier though, especially for volcanoes. After my first real tour on the DWTs, I sold my previous "burlier" touring setup. There's really no need.
Nov 26 2023 11:44PM
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