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Morality of poaching

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Gourd
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my broke ass can't afford the all access pass for my resort this year, so I think I'm getting the once a week one instead. The thing is I'd obviously like to go more than once a week, but I'd have to poach. Idek what the setup at perfect is and if its even possible to poach.

On the other hand, they're a smaller resort, and I'd hate to steal service from the little guys. What do you guys think
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bogust
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My local mountain has such a bad setup that I inadvertently poached it 90% of time despite getting a free season pass for instructing.
3 years ago
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SchizoSkier
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If their chicken tenders are over 10 bucks then id say go for it
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Gourd
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SchizoSkierIf their chicken tenders are over 10 bucks then id say go for it


@Rparr p north tendie price?
3 years ago
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Rparr
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Gourd@Rparr p north tendie price?


think it's like 5 or 5.50. As far as poaching perfect goes, I rarely get checked for tickets there. You could definitely lap the rope tow park as long as you want with no ticket, they don't have employees at the bottom of the rope tows. They have an employee at the top of the rope tow in a little hut just to stop and start the tow when people fall in the tow path and such
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Gourd
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Rparrthink it's like 5 or 5.50. As far as poaching perfect goes, I rarely get checked for tickets there. You could definitely lap the rope tow park as long as you want with no ticket, they don't have employees at the bottom of the rope tows. They have an employee at the top of the rope tow in a little hut just to stop and start the tow when people fall in the tow path and such


Word, a working tow rope will be nice
3 years ago
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PsychicMigration
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My local tripled the price of college passes in three years, the ownership are more and more of assholes about park features and the ski instructors bitch us out all the time although they have absolutely no knowledge of what’s happening. They don’t check passes often so I would take friends to poach all the time. Place has basically fallen apart as far as park goes. Used to have half of the main slope as park half lessons… it’s more like 20% park now if we get lucky. Since the Yawgoons are old it’s not helping. Op not every small area deserves to survive just cause they’re small. Depends on tons of factors if it’s worth it to poach. It’s tough being a ski area in Rhode Island but not really an excuse to turn tons of people away that way. All they care about is lessons now since it makes money.
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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I thought this thread was going to be about ducking ropes.
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Gourd
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BigPurpleSkiSuitI thought this thread was going to be about ducking ropes.


it kinda is. I was asking if people think its ok to poach from small resorts, rather than pay for a ticket
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cndr
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Kind of a gray area here. A smaller, locally owned area will see a bigger hit from it over a large corporate owned place. I wouldn't call it immoral.

In my experience, getting caught once means they'll probably just ask you to leave for the day and come back tomorrow with a paid ticket. If they nab you again you start facing longer lasting repercussions that could really put a damper on your season.
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WGalinski
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Don’t ski if you can’t afford it. With that being said- I’ve poached without a pass only a handful of times in my late teens and it always left me feeling guilty and uneasy, even if it was just to ride a ripped up rope tow park for an hour before close. The only time it ever felt justified was during a huge ski meet that took over a solid 75% of the runs and the hill didn’t have anything posted about it (I’m in the midwest, so not much to get after but driving over an hour, paying $70 for 3 runs of 300’ vert was insanity that day). Would suck to be banned from a ski hill that you love so keep that in the top of your mind if you ever poach.
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Gourd
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WGalinskiDon’t ski if you can’t afford it. With that being said- I’ve poached without a pass only a handful of times in my late teens and it always left me feeling guilty and uneasy, even if it was just to ride a ripped up rope tow park for an hour before close. The only time it ever felt justified was during a huge ski meet that took over a solid 75% of the runs and the hill didn’t have anything posted about it (I’m in the midwest, so not much to get after but driving over an hour, paying $70 for 3 runs of 300’ vert was insanity that day). Would suck to be banned from a ski hill that you love so keep that in the top of your mind if you ever poach.

Yeah I’m gonna buy a pass, but it’s only good for one day a week and there will likely be times when I want to go a second day. I’ll probably just lap the tow rope in those cases.
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keagan.karstens
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If you have bills to pay and genuinely are working full time already and can’t afford to it’s more understandable. But if you’re not working as much as u could or at all. You should work that extra week so that you can afford to ski.
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Gourd
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keagan.karstensIf you have bills to pay and genuinely are working full time already and can’t afford to it’s more understandable. But if you’re not working as much as u could or at all. You should work that extra week so that you can afford to ski.


Between school and work, my schedule is pretty full, but I could definitely cut some stuff out of the budget to save some money.
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dmcdmc
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Like Aladdin said, "gotta eat to live, gotta steal to eat". And we mostly sympathize with him.

Just don't cry or complain if you get caught and banned/arrested or whatever they do.
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partyandBS
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Get yo funds up homie! I’m sure they got something you could do in the am 1 or 2 mornings a week that lets you ski in the afternoon. Then you’re obligated to be there anyway and would likely ski more.
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Kevinb5
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I got the once a week pass too but I don’t live that close so I won’t go much more than that. I’ve ridden there with no ticket on cause it was on my jacket and I took it off without issue though.
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skiP.E.I.
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Gourdmy broke ass can't afford the all access pass for my resort this year, so I think I'm getting the once a week one instead. The thing is I'd obviously like to go more than once a week, but I'd have to poach. Idek what the setup at perfect is and if its even possible to poach.

On the other hand, they're a smaller resort, and I'd hate to steal service from the little guys. What do you guys think

If you feel bad about poaching maybe offer to volunteer a few hours a week to maintain the park or something in exchange for a pass.
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Gourd
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skiP.E.I.If you feel bad about poaching maybe offer to volunteer a few hours a week to maintain the park or something in exchange for a pass.

Yeah, I would get a job there for the pass, but I don’t have a car or any other form of reliable transportation.
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yavone
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Pn isn't struggling at all that place is packed all the time and they bought another resort I wouldn't worry to much about hurting them
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johnblaze
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Skiing is more important than paying to ski.
3 years ago
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Gourd
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BigPurpleSkiSuitI thought this thread was going to be about ducking ropes.
Gourdit kinda is. I was asking if people think its ok to poach from small resorts, rather than pay for a ticket

I’m an idiot. Forgot poaching has different meanings
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theabortionator
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Rparrthink it's like 5 or 5.50. As far as poaching perfect goes, I rarely get checked for tickets there. You could definitely lap the rope tow park as long as you want with no ticket, they don't have employees at the bottom of the rope tows. They have an employee at the top of the rope tow in a little hut just to stop and start the tow when people fall in the tow path and such


How big are they, need picture before I can condone poaching. If they're proper ass tendies for that price woth fries I might have to call the police. If they're some bunk tiny nuggets and no fries I see no way to morally object.

Good luck regardless
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Koshermilk
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johnblazeSkiing is more important than paying to ski.


Paying to ski is not core
3 years ago
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drew.ski
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Yes
3 years ago
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RIP_leos_shack
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You can't get your pass pulled for ducking ropes if you don't have one.
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SPK_
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If you really can't afford it maybe a middle ground would be to get a children pass: they'd still get some money and if they have some keycard system you can still get around for cheap... Until you get your pass checked that is.
3 years ago
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GayWolf420
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Don't be a wookie dude just buck-up and get a job and get a pass.
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Gourd
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DeebieSkeebiesDon't be a wookie dude just buck-up and get a job and get a pass.

I have a job, and I’m gonna buy a pass. Just not the all access one.
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skiP.E.I.
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GourdYeah, I would get a job there for the pass, but I don’t have a car or any other form of reliable transportation.


My point was more if you're there skiing anyway, maybe you volunteer for like an hour at the start and end of your session to maintain the features. That way you ensure that everything is in the best shape for your own use too.
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Gourd
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skiP.E.I.My point was more if you're there skiing anyway, maybe you volunteer for like an hour at the start and end of your session to maintain the features. That way you ensure that everything is in the best shape for your own use too.

I think it’d be a liability issue for them as I wouldn’t be an employee, but I can see, that would be chill
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skiP.E.I.
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GourdI think it’d be a liability issue for them as I wouldn’t be an employee, but I can see, that would be chill

Be worth checking in to, maybe they could have you sign a release or something. I've worked at many ski hills and every one of them would accept volunteers- their work was just supervised or checked by an employee.
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piss.boy
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Was about to make a thread about this
3 years ago
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