Need advice on new skis

MaTtToM86Greetings! I need advice on new skis. I mostly ski the Rockies and am a type 2 skier. I currently ride Volkl Super Sports. I’m looking for something a bit more versatile since I’m interested in exploring more terrain parks. I still want to be able to get my speed fix though on the groomers. I’m 36, 6 feet tall, and 165 pounds. My budget is $600 without bindings.

I’ve read a number of things that suggest the Atomic Bent Chetler 100’s would be a good ski for someone like me. Any thoughts and advice would be much appreciated!

Jeffrey 102

Frenchmayo1287Jeffrey 102

Might be too much ski. Chetty 100 sounds like a better fit.

Revolt 104 could be a great fit. Also the K2 poacher, those are fairly stiff and stable our of the Park too

Jeffery 102 and Woodsman 102 destroy everything in their path except for themselves.

SchoessJeffery 102 and Woodsman 102 destroy everything in their path except for themselves.

I'm sure you're right, but those are above his budget and I'd imagine that they're a bit heavier than what OP is looking for, since he said he's a type 2 skier

Bentchetler 100 is a sick daily driver. Performs great everywhere even the park.

Armada ARV 96 or 106 could fit the bill.

what does a type 2 skier mean?

tutipupswhat does a type 2 skier mean?

Basically a beginner/intermediate.

Jets with the Pit Viper Pivot 15s.

MaTtToM86Greetings! I need advice on new skis. I mostly ski the Rockies and am a type 2 skier. I currently ride Volkl Super Sports. I’m looking for something a bit more versatile since I’m interested in exploring more terrain parks. I still want to be able to get my speed fix though on the groomers. I’m 36, 6 feet tall, and 165 pounds. My budget is $600 without bindings.

I’ve read a number of things that suggest the Atomic Bent Chetler 100’s would be a good ski for someone like me. Any thoughts and advice would be much appreciated!

I'm older as well and ski all mountain and park, inc XL line stuff. I use currently the 187cm J-Skis Masterblaster (about 600 dollars) mainly but also have recently bought some Armada 184cm ARV96 to replace them as they got a bit thrashed this season in Les 2 Alpes as they had less snow than typical this season throughout France. The Masterblaster (MB) is a nice ski. It is versatile, I use it all over the mountain and in XL line park, though I'm not doing much spinning these days. The ski itself is directional so it is stable going forwards and has titanium in the core, so is strong and stable at speed. I also ski switch in it regularly without any noticeable issues versus a true park twin tip which I also have. It does have a reasonable amount of rocker at tip and tail, I would prefer it to have none really to get a full length effective edge but this is the current trend in ski design. The ARVs though I've not yet skied them look rather nice. They have less rocker length on them, and more underfoot camber so should be pretty nice in carves and I would think poppy enough on jumps as they're reasonably stiff similar to the MBs. The mount point is more centred on an ARV96 over the MBs I'm describing, and they are more twin tip designed. This means your stance will need to accommodate that a bit and be more centred as a result. Both should be a decent ski for what you're describing.

I'm 49, 6 1' and about 175 pounds. I would say I'm in the type 3 skiing mode but these skis will suit your level just as well and allow room for improvement. The ARV will most likely be a bit cheaper, particularly if you get them like I did in the end of season sale - mine came in at 250 notes UK, or about 320 dollars without bindings. The MBs are going to be 660 next season I believe, but they are a little more unique. J-Skis is defo worth a look for those that live in the USA - it is owned and run by Jason Levinthal who was the originator of the LINE ski brand so you know you're getting a good quality product.

>sell proclaimed type II skier

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baz25216I'm older as well and ski all mountain and park, inc XL line stuff. I use currently the 187cm J-Skis Masterblaster (about 600 dollars) mainly but also have recently bought some Armada 184cm ARV96 to replace them as they got a bit thrashed this season in Les 2 Alpes as they had less snow than typical this season throughout France. The Masterblaster (MB) is a nice ski. It is versatile, I use it all over the mountain and in XL line park, though I'm not doing much spinning these days. The ski itself is directional so it is stable going forwards and has titanium in the core, so is strong and stable at speed. I also ski switch in it regularly without any noticeable issues versus a true park twin tip which I also have. It does have a reasonable amount of rocker at tip and tail, I would prefer it to have none really to get a full length effective edge but this is the current trend in ski design. The ARVs though I've not yet skied them look rather nice. They have less rocker length on them, and more underfoot camber so should be pretty nice in carves and I would think poppy enough on jumps as they're reasonably stiff similar to the MBs. The mount point is more centred on an ARV96 over the MBs I'm describing, and they are more twin tip designed. This means your stance will need to accommodate that a bit and be more centred as a result. Both should be a decent ski for what you're describing.

I'm 49, 6 1' and about 175 pounds. I would say I'm in the type 3 skiing mode but these skis will suit your level just as well and allow room for improvement. The ARV will most likely be a bit cheaper, particularly if you get them like I did in the end of season sale - mine came in at 250 notes UK, or about 320 dollars without bindings. The MBs are going to be 660 next season I believe, but they are a little more unique. J-Skis is defo worth a look for those that live in the USA - it is owned and run by Jason Levinthal who was the originator of the LINE ski brand so you know you're getting a good quality product.

I really appreciate the information and input. I’m not as familiar with the MD’s, but I’m definitely aware of Armada. I’ve really considered ARV, but a part of me thinks they may be geared toward a more advance freestyle skier. The majority of my experience is carving groomers but I’ve really been interested in trying to develop skills in the park and even though some of the Armada designs won’t break the bank, part of me wonders if the price tag is worth it given how green I’d be….

STR1NG_B3AN>sell proclaimed type II skier

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Living in Kansas City doesn’t lend itself to very quick skill advancements. It’s be a fork’en lie to call label myself anything but type 2.

MaTtToM86I really appreciate the information and input. I’m not as familiar with the MD’s, but I’m definitely aware of Armada. I’ve really considered ARV, but a part of me thinks they may be geared toward a more advance freestyle skier. The majority of my experience is carving groomers but I’ve really been interested in trying to develop skills in the park and even though some of the Armada designs won’t break the bank, part of me wonders if the price tag is worth it given how green I’d be….

Entry level park skis are mostly price point skis geared toward tweens and Juniors. The ARV series are all-mountain freestyle skis not pure park focused and they should not be overwhelming for a skier with decent fundamentals. They aren't demanding or punishing.

The reckoner 102 may be worth a look? It's a lot of fun all over but doesn't carve super well and is not very composed at speed, though these things are all relative of course.

Another ski that might be worth checking out is the 4FRNT Switch.

Where do you ski primarily?

MaTtToM86I really appreciate the information and input. I’m not as familiar with the MD’s, but I’m definitely aware of Armada. I’ve really considered ARV, but a part of me thinks they may be geared toward a more advance freestyle skier. The majority of my experience is carving groomers but I’ve really been interested in trying to develop skills in the park and even though some of the Armada designs won’t break the bank, part of me wonders if the price tag is worth it given how green I’d be….

As another has suggested I wouldn't worry about being green to park. I was listening to what you said about carving groomers, and provided that your technique is genuine carving and being on your shins/centred and not leaning back at all, I'd say go for the ARV or the MBs. They are both great skis and will allow you to learn switch and ski park without issues and will be stiff enough to ski well on any condition groomer without rattling around. Just be honest with yourself about your ability before getting too hung ho in the park. I've seen many people come unstuck because they are not out of the backseat properly before hitting jumps, they get away with it until they go a bit bigger that's when it becomes critical to be centred/forward in stance for take off and pop. But if you're carving properly on piste, and your stance is centred or forward like it should be, then go for it!!!

mystery3Entry level park skis are mostly price point skis geared toward tweens and Juniors. The ARV series are all-mountain freestyle skis not pure park focused and they should not be overwhelming for a skier with decent fundamentals. They aren't demanding or punishing.

The reckoner 102 may be worth a look? It's a lot of fun all over but doesn't carve super well and is not very composed at speed, though these things are all relative of course.

Another ski that might be worth checking out is the 4FRNT Switch.

Where do you ski primarily?

The Rockies, mostly Colorado.

I’m an advanced snowboarder that switched to skiing pretty much this year. I’m 5’9@167lbs. I have about 3 days on skis a couple seasons ago(at which time I got a lesson), but I went all in this season, with only a few days of boarding on a cat trip and a couple deeper days. I started on some Black Crows Viator 85 @171 and rentals. I rode some Blizzard Rustler’s that I really enjoyed and considered purchasing but had a hard time finding them in my size. I almost pulled the trigger on some K2 mindbender 90c, but I figured I already had the 85 waisted Viators. I wanted something a little wider for the PNW. I mostly ride Meadows but have been at Tline this season. After reading enough reviews to make my eyes bleed, I ended up pulling the trigger on the Armada ARV 96’s in the 170. At first I thought I might of went to wide, but after being on them for a few days they feel pretty great. I think they will help me keep progressing on groomers and allow me to get more comfortable off piste. I’d eventually like to get into the park… prob next season. I’m 44 and I wish I’d started skiing sooner! In my opinion, the ARVs would be fine for you to progress on.

**This post was edited on May 3rd 2022 at 7:45:40pm

Chunder_KhatMight be too much ski. Chetty 100 sounds like a better fit.

100% agree super fun ski to go fast with and holds up super well in the park