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Unpopular opinion: Simple rails>technical rails

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PimpChimpin
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Gonna get attacked for this but simple rails such as a long tube or flat down that I can throw big tricks on are better than technical rails like triple kinks

This is a W take and there’s no arguing it
Apr 6 2022 3:54PM
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eheath
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Apr 6 2022 3:58PM
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Deez_Mcskis
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You've forgotten that most people on this site are still trying to learn to do a straight rail.
Apr 6 2022 4:03PM
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PimpChimpin
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eheath

There’s two rails in front of you, 50 foot tube that you can do 40 backswaps on or a triple kink, which one you taking?
Apr 6 2022 4:07PM
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eheath
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PimpChimpinThere’s two rails in front of you, 50 foot tube that you can do 40 backswaps on or a triple kink, which one you taking?


idk you didnt say what kinda rail the 3 kink is, if its a pc double barrel down flat down flat with a nice landing, I might hit the 3 kink.
Apr 6 2022 4:09PM
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CowboySkibop
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id take the long flat tube because the most technical rail I've done is a very short DFD and it didn't go too hot
Apr 6 2022 4:11PM
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dwt802
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This goes to the question of what you mean by “better”.

I enjoy greasing a 6 kink more than a tube personally but I get what you’re saying for tricks. It’s just more actively challenging and rewarding greasing harder kinked rails. Flat/down tubes/rails maybe easier and less scary for learning tricks but I don’t think they’re more fun for me. When I’m cruising through the park doing minimal tricks, I’d rather hit a bunch of hard kinked rails than a bunch of tubes I could do each and everytime.
Apr 6 2022 4:21PM
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SofaKingSick
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good point OP i'd probably agree if i sucked too!
Apr 6 2022 4:23PM
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Deez_Mcskis
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PimpChimpinGonna get attacked for this but simple rails such as a long tube or flat down that I can throw big tricks on are better than technical rails like triple kinks

This is a W take and there’s no arguing it

Wait you can throw big tricks what are you doing on this sight.

You'd better not be andri in disguise
Apr 6 2022 4:31PM
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armchair_skier
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Another way of saying “I’m bad at skiing rails 😌”
Apr 6 2022 4:37PM
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PimpChimpin
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My 6p6 says otherwise






sike
Apr 6 2022 4:57PM
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PimpChimpin
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Deez_McskisWait you can throw big tricks what are you doing on this sight.

You'd better not be andri in disguise


I’ve thrown a quad cork onto a flat tube, wasn’t too hard
Apr 6 2022 5:05PM
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BallZach420
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Doing tricks on a tube is one thing, taking them to more technical rails is what progression is all about. Better to 2 on to sw a skinny quad kink then super elusive a flat tube imo.
Apr 6 2022 5:23PM
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270on420out
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99% of Instagram skiing is the same shit on and off and the same swaps on the same rails for 5 shots. Add some trap song and throw in a little b-roll on that and boom you’re a pro skier.
Apr 6 2022 5:38PM
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AndrewGravesSV
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imo a park kinda blows if its a bunch of hard and huge rails that only pros can do tricks on. You need some accessible features for people of all skill levels to get clips on. Those same hard features also elevate a park if there are one or two. Id rather lap a park with features that i can learn new shit on and get a line vs a park where i only get to the end of each feature one out of five times
Apr 6 2022 5:59PM
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PimpChimpin
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AndrewGravesSVimo a park kinda blows if its a bunch of hard and huge rails that only pros can do tricks on. You need some accessible features for people of all skill levels to get clips on. Those same hard features also elevate a park if there are one or two. Id rather lap a park with features that i can learn new shit on and get a line vs a park where i only get to the end of each feature one out of five times


Totally agree
Apr 6 2022 7:35PM
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PimpChimpin
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270on420out99% of Instagram skiing is the same shit on and off and the same swaps on the same rails for 5 shots. Add some trap song and throw in a little b-roll on that and boom you’re a pro skier.


That’s why I don’t be really enjoying pro skier clips… yes, the stuff they do is extremely difficult and I could never do it, but it just doesn’t look as cool to me as someone making a creative trick and having style
Apr 6 2022 7:37PM
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Sean_D
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PimpChimpinGonna get attacked for this but simple rails such as a long tube or flat down that I can throw big tricks on are better than technical rails like triple kinks

This is a W take and there’s no arguing it

Idk even just a 2 out of the quad kink at my hill feels more rewarding than like dub swaps and 2 ons
Apr 6 2022 8:38PM
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ski_salmon69
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I wish more parks would have higher handrails, but with a wider rail. Just like 4 inch diameter downrails and kinks higher off the ground would be so nice. It would be a lot easier to transition tricks from a tube to that instead of like a one inch skinny af rail.

Or even just more features high off the ground in general.
Apr 6 2022 8:52PM
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Christian_Bale
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PimpChimpinThat’s why I don’t be really enjoying pro skier clips… yes, the stuff they do is extremely difficult and I could never do it, but it just doesn’t look as cool to me as someone making a creative trick and having style

True but there are plenty of pros who are creative and have a nice style
Apr 6 2022 8:58PM
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Farmville420
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It’s not about the rails it’s about the tricks lol
Apr 6 2022 10:09PM
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.frenchy
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i love both honestly. a huge S rail, Z rail or a dfd+ is fun as hell and makes you feel good after stomping it
Apr 6 2022 10:47PM
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mrk127
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eheathidk you didnt say what kinda rail the 3 kink is, if its a pc double barrel down flat down flat with a nice landing, I might hit the 3 kink.


Bruh a DFDF is only a double kink
Apr 6 2022 11:26PM
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eheath
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mrk127Bruh a DFDF is only a double kink


shut up
Apr 6 2022 11:57PM
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armchair_skier
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mrk127Bruh a DFDF is only a double kink


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1039131/Learning-to-Count----Teach-Your-Child-to-Count
Apr 7 2022 12:11AM
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The.Fish
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I hear the argument for technical rails, but the fat tube kinked rails (dfd, z, up flat) are my favorite. I just don't really like super skinny rails because you need to land perfect. A quad kink or a thicker s rail are the most satisfying to complete though.
Apr 7 2022 12:15AM
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asparagus
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my hill took our 36 inch fat tube and made it a spine, park crew couldn’t move it after bc of covid and now it’s unslidable because too many racer kids have rolled over it and made grooves
Apr 7 2022 7:55AM
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keagan.karstens
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I’d much rather watch someone lace a challenge rail and like back 2 out then throw a bunch of swaps on a tube 6 inches off the ground
Apr 7 2022 8:28AM
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skierman
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"big tricks" AKA front 270s out.
Apr 7 2022 8:38AM
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PimpChimpin
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skierman"big tricks" AKA front 270s out.


Aka trip cork out nerd
Apr 7 2022 8:52AM
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asparagus
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keagan.karstensI’d much rather watch someone lace a challenge rail and like back 2 out then throw a bunch of swaps on a tube 6 inches off the ground

id rather watch the little groms learn their first 2s out than see the challenge rail hit 4 times by the same dude because everyone else sucks

kinda depends if your hill has both tho
Apr 7 2022 8:58AM
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BagOTricks
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A fat flat tube with enough drop off to get 4's around easily is the best feature a park can have imo
Apr 7 2022 9:38AM
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Schoess
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Lmao thank you for this
270on420out99% of Instagram skiing is the same shit on and off and the same swaps on the same rails for 5 shots. Add some trap song and throw in a little b-roll on that and boom you’re a pro skier.
Apr 7 2022 9:59AM
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Schoess
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All rails are created equal. It's up to us to find the enjoyment in them ❤️🥲
Apr 7 2022 10:00AM
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ReturnToMonkey
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I think rails should only be judged based on how much rust and sharp edges it has
Apr 7 2022 10:18AM
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TrickyDick470
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Mellow technical rails are awesome though, I love a nice, low to the ground, flat-up-flat-up-flat with mellow kinks.
Apr 7 2022 10:23AM
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eastcoasticeicle
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sugarbush made a 44 foot tube this winter, my favorite rail in the park
Apr 7 2022 10:46AM
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BradFiAusNzCoCa
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If it’s nice and smooth and my edges are full detuned, then the kink. If any of those are missing, then I chose the flat
Apr 7 2022 11:19AM
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IsaacNW82
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Yea fat tubes will always be my favorite. BE Inspired proved to me that there is no upper skill limit to who can enjoy them, they are amazing for learning new tricks, and they are by far the most approachable rail for park beginners.

And yea, before you ask I am pretty medicore at rails
Apr 7 2022 11:30AM
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Young_patty
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Unpopular opinion: if you do more than one two front swaps on a rail then I'm turning off your video.
Apr 7 2022 12:02PM
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dwt802
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Young_pattyUnpopular opinion: if you do more than one two front swaps on a rail then I'm turning off your video.


Agreed but it gets a pass if it’s through kinks each time on a bigger rail
Apr 7 2022 2:09PM
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mrk127
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eheathshut up


armchair_skierhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1039131/Learning-to-Count----Teach-Your-Child-to-Count


I refuse to call a DFD a double kink
Apr 7 2022 3:20PM
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Timby
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i second this, as a noob.
Apr 7 2022 3:20PM
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eheath
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mrk127I refuse to call a DFD a double kink


You can call it whatever you want, but objectively it is a double kink.
Apr 7 2022 4:30PM
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skierman
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mrk127I refuse to call a DFD a double kink


What the fuck do you think a "kink" is?

I refuse to believe people are this fucking dumb.
Apr 7 2022 5:28PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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mrk127I refuse to call a DFD a double kink
skiermanWhat the fuck do you think a "kink" is?

I refuse to believe people are this fucking dumb.

Please answer this.
Apr 8 2022 12:54AM
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theabortionator
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Simple rails get ovelooked sometimes but both are sick. A lot of times people ask for crazy shit when down and flat rails are usually the most popular.

A nice challenge rail is always fun to hike 30 times to get a trick and curse at the world when you come off 2 feet before the end
Apr 8 2022 4:20AM
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galardogod
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Sunday River has recently fetishized stacking multiple features on top of eachother and it drives me insane. I would rather hit a nice flat rail and then hit a DFD than have the two stacked up. Maybe I should just be a man and find a way to get better but that’s just my take
Apr 8 2022 2:51PM
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SofaKingSick
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galardogodSunday River has recently fetishized stacking multiple features on top of eachother and it drives me insane. I would rather hit a nice flat rail and then hit a DFD than have the two stacked up. Maybe I should just be a man and find a way to get better but that’s just my take


wait you mean shit like, e.g. adding a flat after a DFD so it's a DFDF? dude that's the best! i wish i'd known SR was into that shit i'd try to get up there

i hear ya that it's not fun if you're not great at rails but in my experience simple rails are by far the most common. parks will have 50 foot jumps but the biggest hardest rail is a gimme
Apr 8 2022 2:59PM
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mobadis
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ReturnToMonkeyPlease answer this.


The rail is a double kink it goes flat (different angle from straight downhill) 2 times
Apr 8 2022 7:40PM
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skierman
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mobadisThe rail is a double kink it goes flat (different angle from straight downhill) 2 times


down flat down is a double kink, you fucking idiot gaper piece of shit.
Apr 8 2022 7:57PM
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