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I'm Russian. And I'm sorry!!!

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spintricks
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Guys. I want to apologies for this terrible shit made by our president.

Trust me - ALL non-idiotic people, non-watching-TV people dont want that terrible conflict.
We all are hostages now here, nobody asked russian people do they understand what is going on and do they want a war conflict. Yes there were NAZI problems, nationalist problems, like in almost every coutry with lots of population and different opinions. I believe 90% of russian people didnt even try to make any history researches to find roots of the conflict.
It is wrong to a country to invade other smaller country, whether it was usa invading iraq or afganistan, or russia, or any other country.

Dont ignore russian skiers and snowboarders, we all only for love, peace and shred.
Mar 7 2022 9:35AM
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keagan.karstens
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I forgive you
Mar 7 2022 9:39AM
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Ciaocippo
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FCK PTN

are these sanctions having any impact on the country? Or just targeting normal people?
Mar 7 2022 10:48AM
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spintricks
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unfortunatly only common people are suffering. currency exchange course complitely destroyed market.
we have to pay x3 price for stupid Iphone, pair of ski or new bicycle ( and comparing to 2014 - we are paying already x2-2.5 price )

CiaocippoFCK PTN

are these sanctions having any impact on the country? Or just targeting normal people?
Mar 7 2022 11:28AM
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corona
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spintricksunfortunatly only common people are suffering. currency exchange course complitely destroyed market.
we have to pay x3 price for stupid Iphone, pair of ski or new bicycle ( and comparing to 2014 - we are paying already x2-2.5 price )


Honestly, good.

The only way this war will end is domestic pressure in Russia and the only way that will happen is if the war hurts the citizens of Russia. Your pain is nothing compared to what is being felt by Ukrainian civilians and you (as a people) are not innocent because you're the reason Putin is in power.
Mar 7 2022 12:11PM
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Ciaocippo
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spintricksunfortunatly only common people are suffering. currency exchange course complitely destroyed market.
we have to pay x3 price for stupid Iphone, pair of ski or new bicycle ( and comparing to 2014 - we are paying already x2-2.5 price )


And this is why you should turn against that bloody dictator.

yes I know.. easier said than done...
Mar 7 2022 12:21PM
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Ciaocippo
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coronaHonestly, good.

The only way this war will end is domestic pressure in Russia and the only way that will happen is if the war hurts the citizens of Russia. Your pain is nothing compared to what is being felt by Ukrainian civilians and you (as a people) are not innocent because you're the reason Putin is in power.


Well this is a dumb and wrong simplification of things
Mar 7 2022 12:22PM
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corona
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CiaocippoWell this is a dumb and wrong simplification of things


Explain.
Mar 7 2022 12:23PM
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corona
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spintricksTrust me - ALL non-idiotic people, non-watching-TV people dont want that terrible conflict.

So then what the fuck are you doing about it?
Mar 7 2022 12:27PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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coronaSo then what the fuck are you doing about it?

Do you know how many people are getting arrested each day in Russia for "doing something about it?" They are trying you smooth brained insect
Mar 7 2022 12:29PM
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OldManAtABasin
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ReturnToMonkeyyou smooth brained insect


Adding this shit to the repository.
Mar 7 2022 12:31PM
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muffMan.
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coronaHonestly, good.

The only way this war will end is domestic pressure in Russia and the only way that will happen is if the war hurts the citizens of Russia. Your pain is nothing compared to what is being felt by Ukrainian civilians and you (as a people) are not innocent because you're the reason Putin is in power.


Putin is a fuckin dictator and some people don’t have a choice of living. The people are being arrested for even saying the word war, it’s called special operations there. Plus it’s impossible to leave. This is Putin’s war that is putting the Russian people at risk. Don’t blame the common citizen for a shitty government, sometimes they don’t have a choice.
Mar 7 2022 12:40PM
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muffMan.
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Hope you’re safe man, can’t imagine your situation
Mar 7 2022 12:41PM
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Ciaocippo
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coronaExplain.



The only way for the war to end is hurting not the 90% percent of russian citizens but that 2% which detains the power, which does not represent a vast part of russian population.
Putin managed to kill journalists, political opponents and to jail people protesting in the streets. Putin's mindset formed within the soviet union secret service so just image how astute he is in knowing how to defend himself, get rid of any opposition, balancing interests of the oligarchs around him and changing the law so he can continue to rule. He doesn't give a fuck about common people.
So sayin that russian people are the reason why he has the power is just wrong.
Mar 7 2022 12:45PM
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piss.boy
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You personally, will bear the punishments
Mar 7 2022 12:52PM
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dshiland
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It isnt your fault for simply being russian and if people are looking at it that way they are foolish. Tragic stuff that's going on.
Mar 7 2022 12:53PM
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Icant_kfed
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coronaHonestly, good.

The only way this war will end is domestic pressure in Russia and the only way that will happen is if the war hurts the citizens of Russia. Your pain is nothing compared to what is being felt by Ukrainian civilians and you (as a people) are not innocent because you're the reason Putin is in power.


That’s a bold assumption that Putin gives two and a half shits about his citizens
Mar 7 2022 1:14PM
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PimpChimpin
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He ain’t your president. He’s your dictator. He’s been cheated into office forever
Mar 7 2022 1:23PM
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corona
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ReturnToMonkeyDo you know how many people are getting arrested each day in Russia for "doing something about it?" They are trying you smooth brained insect


Fucking good. They're doing something about it rather than being a pussy and whining on NS about the price of skis being too high.

I sound like skierman here.
Mar 7 2022 1:28PM
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corona
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Coleg55Hope you’re safe man, can’t imagine your situation


Of course he's safe. His country isn't the one being invaded.
Mar 7 2022 1:29PM
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DesertStix
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Think it’s time for a coup in Russia
Mar 7 2022 1:30PM
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SofaKingSick
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just as decent people in russia do not want the war, decent people here do not blame the average russian

we know the government is the issue and we feel pity for many of the russian troops and the situation they've been put in. and we know the russian citizens speaking out and protesting have serious balls

look, even on this website for idiots the majority opinion doesn't seem to fault regular russians: https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/930178/Siver-voll

peace and love OP we wish you the best
Mar 7 2022 1:31PM
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corona
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CiaocippoThe only way for the war to end is hurting not the 90% percent of russian citizens but that 2% which detains the power, which does not represent a vast part of russian population.
Putin managed to kill journalists, political opponents and to jail people protesting in the streets. Putin's mindset formed within the soviet union secret service so just image how astute he is in knowing how to defend himself, get rid of any opposition, balancing interests of the oligarchs around him and changing the law so he can continue to rule. He doesn't give a fuck about common people.
So sayin that russian people are the reason why he has the power is just wrong.

They fucking elected him (the first time, the rest was rigged.. the first was likely also rigged).

The people of Russia are 100% complicit as they overwhelmingly have supported his leadership for the past 2 decades.

No leader, dictator or not, stays in power for over 2 decades if they don't have the support of the people.
Mar 7 2022 1:36PM
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Prince_Pollo
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coronaHonestly, good.

The only way this war will end is domestic pressure in Russia and the only way that will happen is if the war hurts the citizens of Russia. Your pain is nothing compared to what is being felt by Ukrainian civilians and you (as a people) are not innocent because you're the reason Putin is in power.


You sound very silly sir, are you sure you did your research? I dont think you understand how corrupt Russia is. The 2018 election in which Putin won his 4th term is said to be a huge fraud. Russian elections in general have been tied to fraud since the early 2000s. On top of that, citizens who speak out against Putin or show any type of resistance are arrested and thrown in prison. Seriously, do your research you sound very ignorant
Mar 7 2022 1:37PM
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corona
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Prince_PolloYou sound very silly sir, are you sure you did your research? I dont think you understand how corrupt Russia is. The 2018 election in which Putin won his 4th term is said to be a huge fraud. Russian elections in general have been tied to fraud since the early 2000s. On top of that, citizens who speak out against Putin or show any type of resistance are arrested and thrown in prison. Seriously, do your research you sound very ignorant


You make it sound like the people of Russia have been against him since the beginning. They overwhelmingly have supported him over the decades. You think a tyrannical dictator can stay in power for 2 decades if the people hate him? They fucking don't and they're all part of the problem.

Brainwashed or not, make the people hurt and change will happen. Let them live the lives like they've clearly been fine with for the past 2 decades and fuck all will change.
Mar 7 2022 1:41PM
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sexyjulian
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I’m surprised you still have internet lol. Lots of reports saying Russia has banned Facebook and Twitter.
Mar 7 2022 1:43PM
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Prince_Pollo
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coronaYou make it sound like the people of Russia have been against him since the beginning. They overwhelmingly have supported him over the decades. You think a tyrannical dictator can stay in power for 2 decades if the people hate him? They fucking don't and they're all part of the problem.

Brainwashed or not, make the people hurt and change will happen. Let them live the lives like they've clearly been fine with for the past 2 decades and fuck all will change.

yea I agree they do support Putin. Because if they don’t they’ll be in jail.
Mar 7 2022 1:44PM
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corona
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Prince_Polloyea I agree they do support Putin. Because if they don’t they’ll be in jail.


I wish this was correct, but it's not. The majority of the population genuinely support him. There have been countless opinion polls done over the years that show this.

https://doi.org/10.1080/1060586X.2016.1144334
Mar 7 2022 1:49PM
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corona
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3/4 of Russians support the fucker, but no, don't blame them, they're not the problem at all. Ya'll are fucking idiots.
Mar 7 2022 1:52PM
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Ciaocippo
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corona3/4 of Russians support the fucker, but no, don't blame them, they're not the problem at all. Ya'll are fucking idiots.


If you spend $200 in fucking Jackson Hole for a daily ticket this doesn't mean you support the pricing policy they adopt. You just wanna ski and you adapt.
Now imagine an average russian say born in the soviet union working as a bus driver for a living. At the end of the month he survives and he's ok with that. Does he think his life could be better? Definitely, but he learned how to adapt in a system where nothing can be changed.
Now you also said that Putin support is extremely high. Just look how higher is support for Kim Jong Un or Maduro who are ruling two countries where life conditions are way worse than Russia.

Incredible how dumb you are
Mar 7 2022 2:10PM
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Ciaocippo
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+ just see how many young russian soldiers died in this war (some say more than 11.000 which is crazy considering the war started 10 days ago) and were tricked into invading ucraine.
I'm sure that they and their families count as putin supporters but they really are?
Mar 7 2022 2:20PM
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The_Best_Bread
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why is this in ski gabber lol, also i saw some russian tiktokers that almost say the same things word for word about the war in their vids
Mar 7 2022 2:24PM
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Quaggy
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corona3/4 of Russians support the fucker, but no, don't blame them, they're not the problem at all. Ya'll are fucking idiots.

Just tell us you're a Russian sympathizer and take loads from Putin on your chin bro, it's chill.
Mar 7 2022 2:28PM
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ASSholebomber22
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Time to quit posting and 1776 that bitch
Mar 7 2022 2:33PM
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*TURBONERD*
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CiaocippoIf you spend $200 in fucking Jackson Hole for a daily ticket this doesn't mean you support the pricing policy they adopt. You just wanna ski and you adapt.
Now imagine an average russian say born in the soviet union working as a bus driver for a living. At the end of the month he survives and he's ok with that. Does he think his life could be better? Definitely, but he learned how to adapt in a system where nothing can be changed.
Now you also said that Putin support is extremely high. Just look how higher is support for Kim Jong Un or Maduro who are ruling two countries where life conditions are way worse than Russia.

Incredible how dumb you are


The majority of the reason Venezuela's living conditions are so poor is because of the crippling sanctions the US placed on it because they want to spark a coup against Maduro; it's a been a regular part of the American playbook to try fomenting dissent against a leader (democratically elected in Maduro's case, not so much with Putin) using the "humanitarian" option of not allowing basic supplies and generally immiserating people. The 1973 Chilean coup (the original 9/11, if you will) is probably the most successful example - Nixon's instructions to "make [their] economy scream" really unveil the violence. Anyway, sanctions are ultimately no less harmful to civilian populations than an outright ground war.

I'm not here to pose any solutions, just to add some nuance that NS typically lacks.
Mar 7 2022 2:53PM
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*TURBONERD*
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coronaHonestly, good.

The only way this war will end is domestic pressure in Russia and the only way that will happen is if the war hurts the citizens of Russia. Your pain is nothing compared to what is being felt by Ukrainian civilians and you (as a people) are not innocent because you're the reason Putin is in power.

So would you have supported similar sanctions against the US with the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? I disagree with your position here, although that's often not the case, and I'm curious if you've got any ideological consistency
Mar 7 2022 2:58PM
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icedcoastskiing
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L putin
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BCbuddy
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Russian revolution v2
Mar 7 2022 3:03PM
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Farmville420
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coronabecause you're the reason Putin is in power.

u can't be for real lol
Mar 7 2022 3:24PM
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SavageBiff
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More like he kills them and arrests a few for the media to play to the world.
Prince_PolloYou sound very silly sir, are you sure you did your research? I dont think you understand how corrupt Russia is. The 2018 election in which Putin won his 4th term is said to be a huge fraud. Russian elections in general have been tied to fraud since the early 2000s. On top of that, citizens who speak out against Putin or show any type of resistance are arrested and thrown in prison. Seriously, do your research you sound very ignorant
Mar 7 2022 3:24PM
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Farmville420
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Lol imagine if the east placed sanctions on the US for invading the middle east and all of us suffered and then you go on the internet and a bunch of chinese people were like "Well 3/4 of you support George Bush, you did this to yourself". Like even if Putin didn't rig every election and throw people who speak out against him in prison, that still doesn't justify blaming Russians for a war that only the leader of the country is allowed to wage.

Like yes, Putin should feel backlash and sanctions make sense but you can want to both economically collapse a country and show remorse to the innocent individuals who feel the backlash. Going on here and being like "Fuck you, you did this" is dumb, instead you could just be like "Your leader is a fool, blame him". Just the attitude that bugs tf out of me.
Mar 7 2022 3:34PM
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Kevinb5
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sexyjulianI’m surprised you still have internet lol. Lots of reports saying Russia has banned Facebook and Twitter.


Russia coming for Newschoolers next
Mar 7 2022 4:04PM
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Schoess
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coronaNo leader, dictator or not, stays in power for over 2 decades if they don't have the support of the people.

Have you ever looked at basically the entire Soviet Union history? What about Sadaam? Or Mussolini?
Mar 7 2022 4:05PM
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corona
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SchoessHave you ever looked at basically the entire Soviet Union history? What about Sadaam? Or Mussolini?


Most of them were very well supported by the people. If they weren't they didn't last long (with very few exceptions). Read up, Putin enjoys the support of about 3/4 of the population.

Mussolini is a pretty shit example.. he was extremely well supported in Italy before the war.
Mar 7 2022 4:27PM
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Schoess
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coronaMost of them were very well supported by the people. If they weren't they didn't last long (with very few exceptions). Read up, Putin enjoys the support of about 3/4 of the population.

Mussolini is a pretty shit example.. he was extremely well supported in Italy before the war.


lol
Mar 7 2022 4:29PM
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corona
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*TURBONERD*So would you have supported similar sanctions against the US with the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? I disagree with your position here, although that's often not the case, and I'm curious if you've got any ideological consistency


Neither are at all comparable with the Ukraine. Ukraine, while corrupt, has been fairly democratic and forward thinking for getting on close to a decade now. They didn't attack Russia or support terrorism in Russia, their crime was becoming too 'western'. Not at all comparable to Afghanistan which supported a blatant attack on the west for which there had to be repercussion. Iraq is more comparable.

I think we have to make hypotheticals here for a better comparison: if the US outright invaded Mexico because they were getting too chummy with China, that would be a better comparison. And in that case, yes. I would fully support sanction on the US.
Mar 7 2022 4:39PM
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corona
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Schoesslol


lol
Mar 7 2022 4:39PM
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corona
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CiaocippoIf you spend $200 in fucking Jackson Hole for a daily ticket this doesn't mean you support the pricing policy they adopt. You just wanna ski and you adapt.
Now imagine an average russian say born in the soviet union working as a bus driver for a living. At the end of the month he survives and he's ok with that. Does he think his life could be better? Definitely, but he learned how to adapt in a system where nothing can be changed.
Now you also said that Putin support is extremely high. Just look how higher is support for Kim Jong Un or Maduro who are ruling two countries where life conditions are way worse than Russia.

Incredible how dumb you are


This is the most laughable comparison I've seen. As you point out, 'just living' =/= support. 3/4 of Russians aren't just living, but they actually support him as their leader.
Mar 7 2022 4:43PM
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corona
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QuaggyJust tell us you're a Russian sympathizer and take loads from Putin on your chin bro, it's chill.


You fucking suck at reading comprehension. Or maybe just reading in general.
Mar 7 2022 4:47PM
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Farmville420
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coronaThis is the most laughable comparison I've seen. As you point out, 'just living' =/= support. 3/4 of Russians aren't just living, but they actually support him as their leader.


How many times do people have to explain that your “3/4” argument is invalid because not showing support for Putin can literally put your life at risk….
Mar 7 2022 4:57PM
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combatgoon17
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where do you take these 3/4 from ? according to wikipedia in the latest opinion poll for elections from 2021 putin's party gets just below 50% of the votes which is realistically even lower cause people are scared to speak out against putin publicly
coronaThis is the most laughable comparison I've seen. As you point out, 'just living' =/= support. 3/4 of Russians aren't just living, but they actually support him as their leader.
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