PimpChimpinYes, and in the smaller size my toes were practically curled up. The “up one size” size has my toes touching the toe of the boot
Let's do this test:
Remove the liner from the shell
Step into the shell with a thin ski sock on
Slide your foot to the front so your toes just barely touch
Measure the space behind your heel
1cm = high performance fit. I do not suggest going down this road unless you are 100% sure of what you need and/or have a legit boot-fitter (not a boot seller). This fit will most likely feel too short & uncomfortable out of the box and therefore need some stretching & grinding in order to feel comfortable.
2cm = normal fit. I suggest this size if you do not know what you need. It will be snug for most people (provided the shape & volume of the shell is also the right thing for you).
3cm = problematically too big. Never buy a boot with this shell fit.
And no matter what size you end up going with, always get an aftermarket footbed. A footbed creates the proper interface between your flexible foot and the rigid shell so that your foot is held in a comfortable, efficient position. Without a footbed, your foot will slide around causing fit issues, discomfort, and inefficient skiing. Without one, are wasting your time worrying about what boot to get.