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scape111
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Looking for some advice on a new (directional) twin tip with decent all mountain performance on groomers. Old(er) at 42 here, 5'-9" and 170 lbs -ish. I have skied for years, but also not for a number of years. Just got back from Smuggs and skied everything they had open. Took our 5 and 8 year old there for the school and after a few days, had them running down any green trail - and on some un-groomed side trail stuff.

For me - had an old pair of elan magfire 10's at 168 that I used to charge around on. I am loving the idea of getting something more playful (and updated). We'll be skiing the northeast, and mostly more local slopes around CT/MA/NY. Easily will have a few extended trips to better areas- and especially as the kids grow both in age and ability.

I demoed a pair of enforcer 104 frees - which I did enjoy, and was able to screw around on while the kids where in the school. When they were not, I was moving SLOOOOWWW and really not able to play around too much on them.

I had my eyes on the Ranger 102fr or Faction Prodigy 1 or 2.0's. Haven't been able to demo either, but looking to get out and demo something available more locally with a softer flex for comparison to the enforcers (I'm thinking of something like the Line Blend to try to get the 'other side' of the spectrum...) Been looking at the ON3P Jeffrey's too - just not sure with the flex and even do I go to the custom option to set a softer flex for my use?

Looking for some advice as I'm looking to expand some freestyle skills. I'm not going to be ripping at 50 mph, and not even at 30mph with the kids (just yet). I will have those days where I can actually ski harder, so still looking for something that can hold up to more all mountain rather than park oriented. My normal skiing day would be to hit a park if we were riding into it - not necessarily spend time in it as much (again, more so possibly as the kids get more skilled). I'm constantly seeking side hits and screwing around just off the groomers. With the kids, I'd do the same - taking my moments - but more so be looking to build skills at generally lower speeds such as buttering, switch skiing to side hits, etc. Nothing crazy, just screwing around. I'm torn between the ski I'd buy now for me vs. the one I'd by now knowing how I'd be using it more... and therefore, am I better off with something with a softer flex, easier edge to edge, etc.

any/all suggestions are welcome
Jan 10 2022 5:55PM
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ericforman
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Ppl on this website shit on them cause the marketing is corny but honestly j skis makes pretty awesome skis for what you are talking about.
Jan 10 2022 6:08PM
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nOtyRmOm
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speciffically the 20/21 ct2.0s from faction, super playful but fairly heavy so they charge but can still do everything else. 20/21 was built in a better factory so durability better. ik u didn't mention them but solid choice
Jan 10 2022 7:05PM
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anders_a
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2021 CT series from faction, CT 2.0 1.0 3.0

102 FR are very nice!

prodigys are fun (always) but less chargy and carvy more jibby
Jan 10 2022 7:10PM
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scape111
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I thought about those, but was thinking the prodigy’s wouldn’t have to be pushed as hard to get that playful performance?
nOtyRmOm123speciffically the 20/21 ct2.0s from faction, super playful but fairly heavy so they charge but can still do everything else. 20/21 was built in a better factory so durability better. ik u didn't mention them but solid choice
Jan 10 2022 7:10PM
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Neives_tiddies
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Check out the soul rider 97, a little more freestyle oriented than the enforcer
ct 2.0’s as stated above
k2 reckoner 102 also always comes up in this freestyle/all mtn conversation too
Also the other guy said, j skis all play or vacation

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2022 at 7:26:32pm
Jan 10 2022 7:25PM
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nOtyRmOm
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scape111I thought about those, but was thinking the prodigy’s wouldn’t have to be pushed as hard to get that playful performance?


in theory but i can butter them anywhere I want. i do ski more aggressively more often, but great all around, soft when u want it supportive when u need it
Jan 10 2022 8:02PM
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Celery
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On3p woodsman could be a good choice. More directional but still stiff enough to be chargy.
Jan 10 2022 9:17PM
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elm.
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Why does thread make me feel like we're being invaded by r/skiing?
Jan 10 2022 10:09PM
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scape111
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anders_a2021 CT series from faction, CT 2.0 1.0 3.0

102 FR are very nice!

prodigys are fun (always) but less chargy and carvy more jibby


I’ve just been wondering if I can get the 102 FR’s to be playful enough at lower speed… not being able to demo them has sucked. I think they truly would fit my bill with how I like to ski, but I’m also knowing I’ll only be able to ski the way I like to ski maybe 30-40% of the time over the next few years and the rest of it will be just cruising and screwing around with the kids. That’s why I was even leaning towards the prodigy’s rather than CT.


thoughts in that- or am I overthinking?
Jan 11 2022 7:08AM
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anders_a
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scape111I’ve just been wondering if I can get the 102 FR’s to be playful enough at lower speed… not being able to demo them has sucked. I think they truly would fit my bill with how I like to ski, but I’m also knowing I’ll only be able to ski the way I like to ski maybe 30-40% of the time over the next few years and the rest of it will be just cruising and screwing around with the kids. That’s why I was even leaning towards the prodigy’s rather than CT.


thoughts in that- or am I overthinking?


you definetly can. 102 FR's are a returning favorite of mine, GF also spends alot of time on them, even when there really isnt enough snow just because they are a fun ski
Jan 11 2022 7:13AM
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scape111
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elm.Why does thread make me feel like we're being invaded by r/skiing?


I get ya… but you have a suggestion otherwise? If I had access to some of these skis to demo- I’d hit them all. Unfortunately I don’t so flying a bit blind and trying to put together the best comparison with what I’ve got access to play on.
Jan 11 2022 12:31PM
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elm.
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scape111I get ya… but you have a suggestion otherwise? If I had access to some of these skis to demo- I’d hit them all. Unfortunately I don’t so flying a bit blind and trying to put together the best comparison with what I’ve got access to play on.


Reckoner 102
Heard libtechs are good
Sfb
Blends
Vishnu wide

Demo or swap with friends
Jan 11 2022 2:36PM
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nkloss4
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elm.Why does thread make me feel like we're being invaded by r/skiing?


the jerries are coming.
Jan 11 2022 5:57PM
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Laxnate
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Would the line blends be a good option for someone who wants to get into park but mainly skis all mountain icy conditions on the east coast? I love buttering but the skis I have now aren't very soft so that's why I'm looking at a softer ski. Also want to do some spins on smaller jumps. Thanks! (couldn't figure out how to post a thread so asking here)
Jan 12 2022 9:18AM
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Neives_tiddies
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LaxnateWould the line blends be a good option for someone who wants to get into park but mainly skis all mountain icy conditions on the east coast? I love buttering but the skis I have now aren't very soft so that's why I'm looking at a softer ski. Also want to do some spins on smaller jumps. Thanks! (couldn't figure out how to post a thread so asking here)


Line chronics might be better, more all mtn focused but not super stiff and a bit of a skinnier waist for those east coast trees and icy moguls
Jan 12 2022 10:46AM
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scape111
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LaxnateWould the line blends be a good option for someone who wants to get into park but mainly skis all mountain icy conditions on the east coast? I love buttering but the skis I have now aren't very soft so that's why I'm looking at a softer ski. Also want to do some spins on smaller jumps. Thanks! (couldn't figure out how to post a thread so asking here)


As said above - Chronics would be a better fit- they'd be on my list- just can't stand the graphic. The new Atomic Bent 90's have now peaked my interest too... they have more flex at the tip than some of the others I was looking at.
Jan 12 2022 1:11PM
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Neives_tiddies
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scape111As said above - Chronics would be a better fit- they'd be on my list- just can't stand the graphic. The new Atomic Bent 90's have now peaked my interest too... they have more flex at the tip than some of the others I was looking at.


The new bents look sick

the ‘21 (‘20 maybe?) chronic has the classic ravens on it instead of the cheetahs if that suits your style more

**This post was edited on Jan 12th 2022 at 4:39:11pm
Jan 12 2022 4:38PM
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scape111
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With work and rain, haven’t bothered to demo anything as it’s been less than ideal conditions.

I was handling the soul rider 97 in the shop and having ridden the enforcer 104 free- I’m imagining similar just softer?

more and more I look at these and for some info- the constant that comes up is “under the radar.”

I enjoyed the 104 free, but with how I’ll be skiing most of the time (with kids), they’ll hardly see the potential. I’d like to get on some factions, but wondering can I go wrong with the soul rider? (I think I can’t go wrong with several skis for what I’m looking for… it’s more of a matter of if and when I can try them out). Thoughts are welcomed.
Jan 17 2022 8:56AM
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lil.Boye
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Lib tech Ufo 95 is sick. Cool graphics and solid skis
armada stranger maybe? Had my eyes on them since they cane out. Looks really fun
hope you find something for you!
Jan 17 2022 10:20AM
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